The World of Tomorrow- OOC

[Space_Kaiser]

Depends, people who search up cosplay could have it as a fetish. Cosplay in itself can just be a hobby. You could say the same for anime but it really, really doesn't do itself any favors by having a pantyshot of some underage girl every fiveteen seconds, ironically fiveteen seems to be the oldest age that most anime characters can reach xD  


Question though: How did Japan go from honor and family above all to gawking at drawn pictures of little girls within a space of like 75-80 years?

1. yeah, Cosplay can be a fetish and a hobby. And you're right to an extent with anime.


2. Now some anime series do that for the fan service and VIEWS! I mean some Youtubers do it all the time. However not every anime series does that, in fact if you look at it statistically fan service anime are primarily Shonen, i mean some aren't, but primarily they are. So those type of anime are outnumbered by far. Now are they still in every anime, well nowadays there is one shot here and there for some, but primarily the anime would be about the details, themes, and story behind it (unless it's a harem series, then just through everything i put out the god damn window).


3. Fiveteen, lol. You kinda ain't wrong there, early Pokemon wasn't safe.


4. To answer that question, that's completely wrong. Japan is still a place of wisdom, honor, family, self-service, and whatever jazz they have. In fact the anime we style we know today actually has inspirations from Disney, some blame them for the style and blame he creators for little girl panty shots (No Game No Life memories). Japan is still that country, however Anime culture (aka Otaku Culture) is becoming one of the most predominant nerd/geek phenomena in the world at this time. Why do you think Anime is becoming huge in the west?


5. I just realized how much of a weeb i am. Time to find a gun and shoot my self (jk suicide is never the answer)

 

[Alteras]

Depends, people who search up cosplay could have it as a fetish. Cosplay in itself can just be a hobby. You could say the same for anime but it really, really doesn't do itself any favors by having a pantyshot of some underage girl every fiveteen seconds, ironically fiveteen seems to be the oldest age that most anime characters can reach xD  


Question though: How did Japan go from honor and family above all to gawking at drawn pictures of little girls within a space of like 75-80 years?

I'd say anime has become more of a medium than an actual definable work that can be hindered by other similar pieces. It's similar to TV Shows, movies, and novels even. Why does there have to be a sex scene in ever action movie. why must there be some damsel in distress = romance. Why is there an erotic novel from the 1800s? (No joke, my friend was at a book sale and found it). Certainly there are problems with it, but I don't think it is so hindered that it must be viewed differently than every other medium.

1. yeah, Cosplay can be a fetish and a hobby. And you're right to an extent with anime.


2. Now some anime series do that for the fan service and VIEWS! I mean some Youtubers do it all the time. However not every anime series does that, in fact if you look at it statistically fan service anime are primarily Shonen, i mean some aren't, but primarily they are. So those type of anime are outnumbered by far. Now are they still in every anime, well nowadays there is one shot here and there for some, but primarily the anime would be about the details, themes, and story behind it (unless it's a harem series, then just through everything i put out the god damn window).


3. Fiveteen, lol. You kinda ain't wrong there, early Pokemon wasn't safe.


4. To answer that question, that's completely wrong. Japan is still a place of wisdom, honor, family, self-service, and whatever jazz they have. In fact the anime we style we know today actually has inspirations from Disney, some blame them for the style and blame he creators for little girl panty shots (No Game No Life memories). Japan is still that country, however Anime culture (aka Otaku Culture) is becoming one of the most predominant nerd/geek phenomena in the world at this time. Why do you think Anime is becoming huge in the west?


5. I just realized how much of a weeb i am. Time to find a gun and shoot my self (jk suicide is never the answer)

An otaku never commits suicide. He must always watch next week's showing before he is done.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

I'd say anime has become more of a medium than an actual definable work that can be hindered by other similar pieces. It's similar to TV Shows, movies, and novels even. Why does there have to be a sex scene in ever action movie. why must there be some damsel in distress = romance. Why is there an erotic novel from the 1800s? (No joke, my friend was at a book sale and found it). Certainly there are problems with it, but I don't think it is so hindered that it must be viewed differently than every other medium.


An otaku never commits suicide. He must always watch next week's showing before he is done.

Speak the truth my dear friend. Also Re:Zero hype, so yeah that's true lol, you're so right.

 

[RIPSaidCone]

@Loyal Guardian Uhhhh yeeaahhh...


@Alteras As for that argument, I'd say there's a definitive difference between saving a damsel in distress and looking up a 10 year old girl's skirt. Or having a 12 year old with a chest the size of Jupiter, there's just a line between western media and Japanese media, that much is a fact and everybody knows it. (Minus the weebs) 


Plus otaku literally just means in Japanese that you're obsessed with pop culture to the extent that it makes you lonely or closed in. It's not supposed to be a good thing xD  


In all seriousness though, what is the appeal in anime, like what makes you guys love it so much? I've tried seeing the appeal in it before but I can't get past the huge eyes, annoying, high pitched whiny voices that could kill a dog from a mile away and the neverending sexual innuendos and nods to sex. Not to mention the constant weird ass gasping and intakes of breath they do in kiss scenes.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

@Loyal Guardian Uhhhh yeeaahhh...


@Alteras As for that argument, I'd say there's a definitive difference between saving a damsel in distress and looking up a 10 year old girl's skirt. Or having a 12 year old with a chest the size of Jupiter, there's just a line between western media and Japanese media, that much is a fact and everybody knows it. (Minus the weebs) 


Plus otaku literally just means in Japanese that you're obsessed with pop culture to the extent that it makes you lonely or closed in. It's not supposed to be a good thing xD  


In all seriousness though, what is the appeal in anime, like what makes you guys love it so much? I've tried seeing the appeal in it before but I can't get past the huge eyes, annoying, high pitched whiny voices that could kill a dog from a mile away and the neverending sexual innuendos and nods to sex. Not to mention the constant weird ass gasping and intakes of breath they do in kiss scenes.

What are you watching lol? Not all anime is like that ya know, in fact what your describing is a minority (Then again i don't watch that kind of stuff so who knows). Also with the whole 10 and 12 year old things, your taking that to the extremes with anime as many don't do that with that young of girls. I mean they still do it, but its very uncommon to the point of rare. Now in Japan, yeah an Otaku is someone obsessed with a hobby and for most its an insult. However in the west its become a term for people who just like and watch anime (and guilty as charged). Now the appeal to anime is that it can bring a sense of something reality can't for most (and no i ain't talkin about the waifu's an shit), anime is actually something that can bring sadness, joy, awesome action, or just a downright good romance story (Clannad anyone?). Now the big eye thing, yeah that's something i can't address as that's a personal thing for ya (even though modern anime is inspired by Disney). Oh and those high-pitched voices yeah same deal with the eyes, all i can say is try the dub if it has one.

 

[Kazami42]

Hey, I'ma agree that furries can be disgusting and absolutely horrific. At best they're just really weird. But you gotta admit the fact that a scary amount of anime just seems to be written around panty shots and sexual innuendos.


One animator: So how's the plot going?
Another animator: Huh? Oh I was just thinking how many panty shots we could get into this episode.


I'm aware there are some/many good animes out there with detailed plotlines and characters but for the most part it just seems to be a pervert's paradise unfortunately.

That may be the case but you have to be aware that everyone in some way, shape, or form has perverted tendencies. Some more than others, or are legitimate perverts. That and that is mostly just shonen.


That and most can easily ignore it, like me. I'm just in it for the storyline and to cure my boredom. There are also genres for that, that prevent that. Unless you call something like corpse party and seeing guts as a form of perversion. I really like anime with great story, Or has lots of blood and gore. There are also anime genres intended for girls, and it annoys me how some dudes say it is unholy or some shit for a dude to watch or enjoy them too.


And those things such as self service and honor still exists. They didn't go anywhere.


I can think of plenty anime with a rare rate of fanservice that isn't shonen, inuyasha, Corpse party, Hellsing if you can ignore the big boobed police girl, I consider girls und panzer because I personally never seen anything legitimately lewd in it yet, and multiple horror genres and mind fuck genre animes. I think steins;gate is one of them, I never actually got my hands on viewing it yet though. I know it's mainly butterfly effect/time travel storyline.


I also like the valkyria chronicles game, and I really wanna see the anime. The most fanservice you see in that game series is like one or two characters, but it never happens alot or it is a plot point of some kind. I could also talk about VC for literally hours. 

@Loyal Guardian Uhhhh yeeaahhh...


@Alteras As for that argument, I'd say there's a definitive difference between saving a damsel in distress and looking up a 10 year old girl's skirt. Or having a 12 year old with a chest the size of Jupiter, there's just a line between western media and Japanese media, that much is a fact and everybody knows it. (Minus the weebs) 


Plus otaku literally just means in Japanese that you're obsessed with pop culture to the extent that it makes you lonely or closed in. It's not supposed to be a good thing xD  


In all seriousness though, what is the appeal in anime, like what makes you guys love it so much? I've tried seeing the appeal in it before but I can't get past the huge eyes, annoying, high pitched whiny voices that could kill a dog from a mile away and the neverending sexual innuendos and nods to sex. Not to mention the constant weird ass gasping and intakes of breath they do in kiss scenes.

For 


1:yes, but that is just how Japan is. There is no need to objectify anyone. Even though that isn't what you're trying to do.


2:actually otaku has no meaning in either west or in Japan. It is only remembered and thus treated as a bad thing because there was once a criminal, who called himself by it. And ever since it's been treated as the go-to insult. As such it also evolved in current day in Japan which does consider that as it's meaning. But it has so many, and is used for so many different things that it doesn't really matter.


3:say no to weebs! Say no to weebs!


4:


I like the horror, mystery, Action, surreal, and quite a few other genres. There are only exceptions I have to things like prison school because they legitimately humor me. Alot of the above genres I state rarely have those or if so, are uncommon because unless it's a plot device it has no meaning. I also like the fate series.


I like them because of the storyline, character development, humor, pure insanity, or they make me actually have to question it. There are also anime which are in a genre based on being realistic as possible, but still being a bit off.


There are also genres of anime which combine these or all of these into one, such as action and horror, or say horror and shonen or something. Which a thing like that is filled with fanservice galore while also having action and whatnot.


Example being highschool of the dead. Equally full of action as it is full of fanservice.


Either way it is also personal opinion that affects it.

 

[Alteras]

@Loyal Guardian Uhhhh yeeaahhh...


@Alteras As for that argument, I'd say there's a definitive difference between saving a damsel in distress and looking up a 10 year old girl's skirt. Or having a 12 year old with a chest the size of Jupiter, there's just a line between western media and Japanese media, that much is a fact and everybody knows it. (Minus the weebs) 


Plus otaku literally just means in Japanese that you're obsessed with pop culture to the extent that it makes you lonely or closed in. It's not supposed to be a good thing xD  


In all seriousness though, what is the appeal in anime, like what makes you guys love it so much? I've tried seeing the appeal in it before but I can't get past the huge eyes, annoying, high pitched whiny voices that could kill a dog from a mile away and the neverending sexual innuendos and nods to sex. Not to mention the constant weird ass gasping and intakes of breath they do in kiss scenes.

well for me, I started with Detective conan, it's aired throughout East Asia and has been running for over a decade. But perhaps what's really hooked me is it's ability to create such beautiful stories with deep and wonderful philosophies and ideology. Shows like "My teen romantic comedy SNAFU" and "Hyouka," and "Barakamon," envisions philosophical judgements, consciously or subconsciously, in our world. Shows like "Kino no Tabi" and "Fractale" and "Paprika" can evoke motions of wanderlust, morality of decisions, and an awe for the unimaginable. Even "Joker Game" "Ghost in the Shell" and "Death Parade" attempt to present this world of philosophy with an anchor in reality. One of the interesting things about anime is that it is slowly evolving beyond entertainment and entering character studies, philosophy, and ideals. The best part of this is that because it is an animation, you can pack more into any frame. Take paprika or joker game, it can pack in metaphors, symbolism, and entire arguments in the span of 4-5 frames, whereas a TV Show or a movie would have to dedicate 30, 40, or even 50 frames for the main character to pocket a handgun, or grasp a brooch. They also have an advantage over books in their ability to tell everything without shoving it in the face. The reason why anime (if we're gonna region lock it to japan) has pulled this off and not western television is the west's prevailing thought that animation is for children. Sure there are vulgar shows like family guy, american dad, and such, but much of the industry views it as Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network's domain. Japan is interesting because of how their already existent culture of philosophical thought and mastery of self has seeped into the entertainment industry.


And sometimes, I just want to sit down and watch Nichijou cause how is a principal wrestling a deer not funny.

 

[Kazami42]

That, and there's like, 70% more none fanservice-y anime than there is. If you consider every genre. However even if you don't, the result always ends up as 20 - 30% fanservice based. Gotta get those views m8. :3.

well for me, I started with Detective conan, it's aired throughout East Asia and has been running for over a decade. But perhaps what's really hooked me is it's ability to create such beautiful stories with deep and wonderful philosophies and ideology. Shows like "My teen romantic comedy SNAFU" and "Hyouka," and "Barakamon," envisions philosophical judgements, consciously or subconsciously, in our world. Shows like "Kino no Tabi" and "Fractale" and "Paprika" can evoke motions of wanderlust, morality of decisions, and an awe for the unimaginable. Even "Joker Game" "Ghost in the Shell" and "Death Parade" attempt to present this world of philosophy with an anchor in reality. One of the interesting things about anime is that it is slowly evolving beyond entertainment and entering character studies, philosophy, and ideals. The best part of this is that because it is an animation, you can pack more into any frame. Take paprika or joker game, it can pack in metaphors, symbolism, and entire arguments in the span of 4-5 frames, whereas a TV Show or a movie would have to dedicate 30, 40, or even 50 frames for the main character to pocket a handgun, or grasp a brooch. They also have an advantage over books in their ability to tell everything without shoving it in the face. The reason why anime (if we're gonna region lock it to japan) has pulled this off and not western television is the west's prevailing thought that animation is for children. Sure there are vulgar shows like family guy, american dad, and such, but much of the industry views it as Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network's domain. Japan is interesting because of how their already existent culture of philosophical thought and mastery of self has seeped into the entertainment industry.


And sometimes, I just want to sit down and watch Nichijou cause how is a principal wrestling a deer not funny.

PRINCIPAL-KO OUTTA NOWHERE!

 

[RIPSaidCone]

Saying you're an otaku is just saying you're a weeb but you don't want to admit it, let's be honest here xD  


Well it was interesting to see why you all enjoy anime but it's safe to say that I'm never going to like it. (And I swear if someone says "its because you dont understand it" I'm going to blow a fuse. That's the number one weeaboo argument) So I'll make it clear just in-case, I do understand it, and that's specifically the reason why I'm not a fan of it. Just a disclaimer since I don't think anyone likes the "you don't like it because you don't understand it like I do" argument.


But I do respect your likes and dislikes, even though I don't see the appeal in it myself, I do sort of see why some would say it's emotionally connecting and all that but I can't really get past the overdramatic voices (both dub and original) and the blatant objectification of women. Although that's just Japan really, not anime in itself.


I appreciate you all taking the time to write out detailed answers on what you like about it though and what draws you into it but yeah I don't see myself ever enjoying an anime. And it's just a personal thing (definitely not trying to enforce this on people of course) but if people could try to at least not put anime into how their countries work, act and look. I think some people are literally just doing a fandom RP at this point   (just bringing that up since it was kinda the origin of the whole discussion)

 

[Kazami42]

I will still use anime pictures to reference how some of my people look unless I find cosplay or something better, and I will continue to use video game concept art for my vehicles as per usual.


*Puts on a monocle, A top hat with horribly written weeb spelling on it, And eye enlarging glasses. Finally putting up a hand, and doing the peace sign.*


"VALHALLA ANIME-ACKBAR!" BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!

 

[Depresso Espresso]

Hey, @Agent141 @Kazami42 @Alteras I am going to hop off this RP, it is confusing me beyond belief, sorry, just remove me entirely, thanks.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

@Agent141 Talking about anime stuff (don't know why but a shit storm was made just cause), I gave the explanation of the origins of my nation, and Venom left. I don't know why, it's not that complicated.


Anyways @Alteras whens the next update coming out? I want to refrain from posting again until you make the update.

 

[Alteras]

@Agent141 Talking about anime stuff (don't know why but a shit storm was made just cause), I gave the explanation of the origins of my nation, and Venom left. I don't know why, it's not that complicated.


Anyways @Alteras whens the next update coming out? I want to refrain from posting again until you make the update.

typing it right now. will have it out in an hour or two.

 

[Alteras]

Actually, make that 3

 

[Alteras]

holy shit, that took longer than expected. I need a break. sorry @Vaaxius@Albionand @Loyal Guardian, I will return within a day or two.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

holy shit, that took longer than expected. I need a break. sorry @Vaaxius@Albionand @Loyal Guardian, I will return within a day or two.

That fine

 

[Vaaxius]

@Alteras

It's fine, just don't drop dead out of nowhere.

 

[RIPSaidCone]

@Alteras


Nice update, but Cascadia's already revitalized and reconstructed like 8 major American cities ma dude :3 (LA being the first) that might've been my bad. But yeah I was just writing about how cewl Los Angeles is now in my post.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

@Alteras


Nice update, but Cascadia's already revitalized and reconstructed like 8 major American cities ma dude :3 (LA being the first) that might've been my bad. But yeah I was just writing about how cewl Los Angeles is now in my post.

pfft, show off.


jk

 

[RIPSaidCone]

pfft, show off.


jk

That jk saved you from being a serious hypocrite xD

 

[Space_Kaiser]

That jk saved you from being a serious hypocrite xD

huehuehue

 

[Kazami42]

@Alteras best update so far, but you made a mistake.


It's the Imperial forces. The nords only think it was the gallians. Lol.

 

[AGustOfWind]

I apologize for my inactivity. The Socialist Republic of China will be active once again.

 

[Space_Kaiser]

@Albion The risers are not there. It's Singaporeans, Vestians, and Eclipsians in your territory.

 

[Alteras]

Central African Federation


Eclipsian troops had pushed greatly into the territory. Some people within the international community somewhat condemned the move to invade land that belongs to another nation without permission. However the military and government ignored these calls and continued their campaigns. In the CAF Eclipsian troops had already reached and captured much the West African coast and the navy issued a blockade on the aforementioned coast. Not only that but the coastal city of Lagos soon was quickly captured by Eclipsian forces and the inland was mostly captured, with the Gold Coast and some inland areas being on of the few pockets remaining under Fascist and Summaist control. The Eastern portion of the army soon encountered Singaporean and African forces, fully capturing the eastern portion of the CAF.


Philippines, Singaporean Federation


The Eclipsian army had begun to aid the Singaporean defenders in quelling any rise ups in the island chain. They had reached the island where it all started, Davao. In a swift yet fierce battle the Eclipsians emerged victorious thanks to the naval bombardments and Singaporean air support. The Philippine Summaist Rebellion is soon to come to an end.


@Albion @Alteras

Davao is a city. but whatever.