The World of Tomorrow- OOC
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Alteras
The Sleepy Prisoner
Well... at the time, the only system we had was a month system, which got scrapped several times by the season system before coming back to the month system.
just keep in mind the size of your workforce. certainly you're allowed to add more factories, but just be cognizant of what high production takes away from.
just keep in mind the size of your workforce. certainly you're allowed to add more factories, but just be cognizant of what high production takes away from.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
So since i haven't done a Random Event in a while, i'm gonna do one pretty soon. Like within two days, hell maybe even today. I'm still thinking of what i should do, since the only real places with Summaist threats are Vestan, CAF, and Poland.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
Should I tag vade or no?
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
@Fishman Lord I actually just realized that teleportation project, i was more focused on our argument in main chat lol. But now that i go and look further back on it, how in the hell was that completed so fast? Teleportation is something literally pulled out of science fiction (granted hovering and power armor is also but there are real world concepts that say their feasible so....). Now i'm not mad that you did that, however i am a little confused as how you complete so fast, as the mechanics say that if something like that is commenced it should take a long time as it is a huge game changer.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
And this is coming from the Eclipse Empire.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
True, but if I could go back in time to show this I'd say:
""Research Project and Operation Times will vary depending on how complicated the project/operation is and how impactful it is. Time also depends on how large your GDP is. Don't try to complete a massive project in like 4 posts. All players are allowed to ignore anything related to the project if completed prematurely." ~agent. THE POWER OF AGENT COMPELS YOU. THE POWER OF AGENT COMPELS YOU!"
You both have a point but,
THE POWER OF AGENT COMPELS YOU!
THE POWER OF AGENT COMPELS YOU!
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
That was before the mechanic was added, if i could go back i would change all of that. However that does not excuse the now. Now you might say i quickly completed upgrades to current existing tech, but remember i put the fact they were either unstable, prototypes, and some were made to quickly. However over time those problems were fixed with the appropriate time done.
Alteras
The Sleepy Prisoner
We could implement the old wmd mechanics of long cool down times and such.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
We already have the 2 month rule.
It could be increased depending on how fast people reply.
Alteras
The Sleepy Prisoner
2 months is a small amount of time considering how much we post a week.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
[Skip to the bottom of this if you want to see a conclusion and my point. Read the wordwall in the spoiler below if you wish to see my explanation and examples.]
There are slow days, and fast days. The congress is a example of this. [I could at this point now say the same for me and vade. As he halted a entire story arc hoping that someone would reply to his message, when the majority of us already moved on to better resources.] It also seems like a fast week because of how many people we have which are active.
However for the smaller countries which at this point could be crushed by any one of you guys, namely the eclipse, order empire, cascadians, rising empire, and a few modern based factions. Which have to resort to having WMDs to effectively defend themselves. We saw a great example of this when early and hostile poland invaded moscow, and made the eclipse obliterate their entire faction in a single post. He didn't have anything to defend against a literal FUCKING ORBITAL LASER CANNON.
[I am aware that there were survivors heading towards the east, in Siberia. But considering he was a metro faction, Moscow was all he had and even if he built his forces up again in D6 he wouldn't be able to defeat even a cockroach with automatic weapons. I am also aware of how only the surface was destroyed, but since they tested oxygen purification and then it being halted caused a entire sinkhole capable of sizing a big ass city. It still counts as their doing. If the faction lived entirely on the surface, that single blast literally would of destroyed his entire faction and everyone in it. But this was a time where people didn't care about the consequences of their actions.]
Thus the WMD law prohibited their use, and the cascadians and other peacekeepers made it appear as if, if one was ever used the entire world would have to murder them. And we all know logically, very advanced technology to get to where we are is near impossible for said smaller factions.
However for the smaller countries which at this point could be crushed by any one of you guys, namely the eclipse, order empire, cascadians, rising empire, and a few modern based factions. Which have to resort to having WMDs to effectively defend themselves. We saw a great example of this when early and hostile poland invaded moscow, and made the eclipse obliterate their entire faction in a single post. He didn't have anything to defend against a literal FUCKING ORBITAL LASER CANNON.
[I am aware that there were survivors heading towards the east, in Siberia. But considering he was a metro faction, Moscow was all he had and even if he built his forces up again in D6 he wouldn't be able to defeat even a cockroach with automatic weapons. I am also aware of how only the surface was destroyed, but since they tested oxygen purification and then it being halted caused a entire sinkhole capable of sizing a big ass city. It still counts as their doing. If the faction lived entirely on the surface, that single blast literally would of destroyed his entire faction and everyone in it. But this was a time where people didn't care about the consequences of their actions.]
Thus the WMD law prohibited their use, and the cascadians and other peacekeepers made it appear as if, if one was ever used the entire world would have to murder them. And we all know logically, very advanced technology to get to where we are is near impossible for said smaller factions.
In conclusion:
The WMD timer has both a advantage and disadvantage.
For smaller nations, it helps them defend themselves easily because unless all of them were tactical geniuses, or had great plans in certain battles, they could never hope to win.
The disadvantage though, is that if people had alot of WMD weaponry, they could just constantly bombard someone into submission.
So at this point, any alteration to the system would fuck over one side. However since we have modern or more advanced technology and forces than that, we would be able to deal with long WMD waiting times for those with them. However smaller nations and or smaller armies would not. Which is the only downfall of the system, that and smaller nations need to ally bigger ones just to survive if they ever are attacked. Thus for example, if the eclipse were hostile. With this technology, only all nations combined could ever defeat them whatsoever. That or someone made a certain prewar technological device, which I will not say the name for to prevent someone from attempting to use one.
That and some of their advanced technology in reality would still be in the stages of impracticality. So just a guy with a large enough army to drown them to death with, combined with lots of tactical prowess could defeat them if done right.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
Though that isn't to say that I didn't enjoy being the karma, and the eclipsian pain in the ass. To extort millions of dollars from them for destroying the primary city of Russia.
I earned quite the profit for that one.
I earned quite the profit for that one.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
I think the research time is justified due to how limited the resource is. Only about 100 suits can exist at any given time, which is a very small amount when you think about. I am also going to actually stick to this limit, unlike the supposedly "rare" sakuradite which suddenly appears by the tanker ship whenever ol' Kent needs it.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
Also, 7.5 million men is way past unreasonable unless you are a ridiculously patriotic dictatorship the size of China.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
I have about a 300 million population that is rising steadily. And you could say the country is experiencing patriotism right now after the victory in the civil war. Think of what's going on right now as the German's early 1930's (without the Hitler and Nazism and all that jazz) and the Baby Boomer's for the Eclipsians. Also i am going to give a bit of spoliers, i am going to end everything i have with you (by that i mean hostile stuff) and just have neutral relations with you after i had a talk with Cone. This also includes the dissolution of the Riser-Eclipsian alliance as that is soon to come. After showing, reviewing, and looking over the pro's and con's i think that it would be best just to leave the Risers side, have you under neutral relations, and thats it. AT most i would like to trade with you and an invitation to the NWA is always open for you. With that said i still think you completed teleportation to fast, but i was thinking that if you only had a small number or another person had to be at that specified location then i would be okay with it kinda.
Fishman Lord
ULTIMATE AI GOD
Thank you for being reasonable. I'm glad we can bury the hatchet and hopefully have at least neutral relations from now on.
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
We'll always have strained relations. I really didn't want a war, but i prefer holding treaties and honoring alliances. which is why it was a very tough decision for me to make.
Dominus Regum
The Lord of Kings
The Vestanians just killed the last known member in Cordoba. (Didn't specify in chat b/c of not enough time)
Space_Kaiser
Formerly known as Loyal Guardian
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Dominus Regum
The Lord of Kings
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
[In this usage of the word, null and void are the same thing.]
Clockwork_Magic
*Gears turning*
The hell happened here?
Kazami42
Budget Morpheus, soldier #1,128,300 reporting in.
A argument about the rockians early finishing of teleportation,
Which lead to a reference to the early RP eclipse empire,
Which lead to a intelligent conversation about WMDs,
Which somehow ended in the eclipse and rockians finding common ground and accepting each other.