Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
GM rolls to set difficulty.Stickdom said:
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Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Is that the only issue then? It's more of a story-progression device than a fixed system, so harder tasks would have major penalties to them, but still leaving the miniscule chance that sheer dumb luck or ingenuity can pull them through it.Grey said:GM rolls to set difficulty.
I mean, they have at most a 2d12 against a DM's 20, not including penalties that would be applied, so more like d20+5 or +10 in strenuous cases. There's always the chance the DM will crit-fail, but that might make for more interesting plot, no? I'm open to suggestions, but I don't want to have to catalogue difficulties for every scenario and then balance them against each other, that just makes it tedious for an RP that's supposed to be plot-based, not system-driven.
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
You don't have to catalogue difficulties for every scenario. You have some guidelines, and you trust a GMs intuition when it comes to setting difficulties. Having the GM roll the difficulty introduces more randomness, and while that can force you to improvise, it can also derail things. It also slows things down - the less rolling, the better. May seem counterintuitive, but that's how it is.
Also, if you intend for the system to be used outside a digital space, that Stat model won't work - there are no odd numbered dice IRL, so it would have to operate in increments of 2. At that point you might as well roll 1d12 and add the stat. Assuming a cap of ten, that means the most any player can roll is 22 - so you have your hardest difficulty be 20 or 21.
The thing about using the d12 is how static it is - there is no curve. You'd get a better curve from 1d6; it can get you a 12, but the average is 7. It means you are most likely to roll 7 + stat, so assuming the average stat of a character is 3, an easy or moderate difficulty would be 10.
Honestly, I can think of a couple of systems that do exactly what you want - Unhallowed Metropolis does it with d10s very neatly.
Also, if you intend for the system to be used outside a digital space, that Stat model won't work - there are no odd numbered dice IRL, so it would have to operate in increments of 2. At that point you might as well roll 1d12 and add the stat. Assuming a cap of ten, that means the most any player can roll is 22 - so you have your hardest difficulty be 20 or 21.
The thing about using the d12 is how static it is - there is no curve. You'd get a better curve from 1d6; it can get you a 12, but the average is 7. It means you are most likely to roll 7 + stat, so assuming the average stat of a character is 3, an easy or moderate difficulty would be 10.
Honestly, I can think of a couple of systems that do exactly what you want - Unhallowed Metropolis does it with d10s very neatly.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
If you noticed, all of the stats are exactly that, even-numbered all across the board. Even with the upgrading and downgrading of dice, it goes by increments of 2, a d8 becomes a d10 in exchange for a d8 lowering to a d6, etc.
But, if you have alternate systems, I'd be more than happy to look at them, as I said, this is my editing of an existing system, which I actually now realize is the Catalyst Game Labs system, makers of Shadowrun, while my version was a take on their Cosmic Patrol and Valiant genres.
This was mostly based on ability levels of the characters skills, having a d2 would obviously make them inept at it, a d4 would be acquainted with the topic, d6 would be below average, d8 is average, and d10 is exceptional. Since a d8 is average + d12 = 20, an opposing d20 didn't seem like a bad option, while exceptional could obviously surpass that with a little luck. If I were to remove the DM rolls and simply make it intuitive difficulty, would that be enough to salvage what I've got already, or should I scrap it and look for a different system?
But, if you have alternate systems, I'd be more than happy to look at them, as I said, this is my editing of an existing system, which I actually now realize is the Catalyst Game Labs system, makers of Shadowrun, while my version was a take on their Cosmic Patrol and Valiant genres.
This was mostly based on ability levels of the characters skills, having a d2 would obviously make them inept at it, a d4 would be acquainted with the topic, d6 would be below average, d8 is average, and d10 is exceptional. Since a d8 is average + d12 = 20, an opposing d20 didn't seem like a bad option, while exceptional could obviously surpass that with a little luck. If I were to remove the DM rolls and simply make it intuitive difficulty, would that be enough to salvage what I've got already, or should I scrap it and look for a different system?
Action Replay
Bringing Dynamic to Entry
Yeah, my bad. Things jumped the shark on campus and at home over last week/end. Schedule is tied up for tonight but I logged on to say posts tomorrow.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Well, I must say that the Unhallowed Metropolis system actually did work out rather well, I'd say. Kudos for the advice, Grey
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
No worries. I really want to run UMet sometime, but it's been oddly difficult to find players.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Well, I'm a sucker for gritty horror and eldritch terror RPs, so if you made one, I'd be interested, if I had the time. I have quite a bit on my as is, and with the upcoming moving season, I'm hesitant to add any more on for fear of dropping them like hot tamales.
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
Yep, I'm here. What do you need?
Also, good news everyone - we're getting a hosted project, so I might split group 2 up a bit.
Also, good news everyone - we're getting a hosted project, so I might split group 2 up a bit.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Grey said:
Kagura
Robot Sheep
What don't I need. so to roll for something you take the number you have in that skill and roll that number of d12's right?Grey said:
Also how to perception.
Like howwww? :0Grey said:
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
To roll, Kagu, you roll as many d12s as the relevant Attribute - so for perception, that would be Intuition.
And I dunno, stick you all in individual hot zones as tutorial threads, then have you meet up later.
And I dunno, stick you all in individual hot zones as tutorial threads, then have you meet up later.
Kagura
Robot Sheep
I approve of this messageGrey said:
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
Alright, folks, we're moved into a HP now!
Please split your character sheets into their own threads in the Character subforum.
Group two, I'll probably split you guys into four different threads. May require editing your current posts to pretend the other characters aren't around. Your choice.
Please split your character sheets into their own threads in the Character subforum.
Group two, I'll probably split you guys into four different threads. May require editing your current posts to pretend the other characters aren't around. Your choice.
Cirno
Sleepwalking Fairy
Sweet move. Thanks to those who made it happen~
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Sweet, nice work. I'm pretty sure we didn't specifically mention that our characters were right next to each other at the moment, everyone kinda just wandered off in their own direction, so it'd be plausible to just assume they went separate ways.Grey said:
Alright, done and done. Oustus is now detached from the group and ready to explore the derelict battleship.
Kagura
Robot Sheep
I am super blind.Grey said:
WHERE IS IT.
Nvm - i got it >_>
Action Replay
Bringing Dynamic to Entry
Or what if we're all just really crazy bandi after an unknowable amount of time in the freezer? WHAT THEN GREY.Grey said:
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
So Grey, any news on when we're gonna kick this off proper? I know we have more room now, how do you wanna set it up, individually?
*patiently impatient* xD
*patiently impatient* xD
Kagura
Robot Sheep
^ SameStickdom said:
Silvertongued
Yes, this is dog
Oh, his home wifi's been buggered, so he might not be posting 'til Monday.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
Oh, well that's a rub. Okay then, I guess all we have to do is wait xD
Grey
Dialectical Hermeticist
Yeah, sorry guys, my connection has been down since Friday. I should be able to sort things out today, but I've got a backlog to work through.
Stickdom
Salamancer, first class
No worries, Grey, just take your time getting things back in order, it's been a slow weekend all around 