[The End is Nigh] Abstract Thought

As I said in the information/gameplay thread, I will reward RPing(Everyone will get something eventually).


Due to the sidereals' performance in their thread and complely defying the odds(Even though I had it stacked against them and we were all going to have awesome Cascading Years side adventures) they managed to save the day, so I am giving Caft one plot action that we have discussed ahead of time and hes going to use it to safe Saturn turn her into an artifact for a while as if using Terminal Sanction.
 
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Due to the sidereals' performance in their thread and complely defying the odds(Even though I had it stacked against them

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Ok for this comment I'm going to check out the sidereals thread :P
 
Epic and a little beyond my comprehension. I wasn't expecting something so epic to start out with. I kinda felt like I was going to the movie 'Skyfall' and asking during the opening scene "So, this Jim Bond guy. Is he supposed to be good or bad? Jim, James, whatever, is James Bond supposed to be the hero?"


I found that I was spending as much time trying to catch up on Lore as I was trying to figure out what abilities I could use.
 
I know some of you know I've been talking about doing a freeform game on the side since I have a new bit of time. This is supposed to exist for those who want something to do while they wait for posts in this game since The End is Nigh is inherently slower due to the larger size and stuff so everyone can play(The slower posting allows more people to be caught up etc who work and go to school)


http://www.rpdom.com/threads/avvros.55776/


If your interested just post in that thread!
 
Any idea on when chapter 2 will start for the Dragon Blooded?
 
I'd like to make a suggestion for a house rule, or at least ask about something that, if the game runs long, will be an issue for the Abyssals: can we houserule away attunement motes, please?
 
[QUOTE="Thief of Words]I'd like to make a suggestion for a house rule, or at least ask about something that, if the game runs long, will be an issue for the Abyssals: can we houserule away attunement motes, please?

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Explain how it will be an issue for abyssals.


I would have to understand it mechanically first.
 
[QUOTE="The Dark Wizard]Explain how it will be an issue for abyssals.
I would have to understand it mechanically first.

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Are you familiar with the Ravening Maw of [Ability] charm?
 
Abyssals in Creation are somewhat mote-starved without Creation Hearthstones, stunting or drinking copious amounts of blood. doing away with attunement motes would give them larger Essence pools. At least that's what I think ToW is saying.


Captain Hesperus
 
[QUOTE="Captain Hesperus]Abyssals in Creation are somewhat mote-starved without Creation Hearthstones, stunting or drinking copious amounts of blood. doing away with attunement motes would give them larger Essence pools. At least that's what I think ToW is saying.
Captain Hesperus

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No, I'm saying they're still somewhat mote starved even with those things. Stunting is a horrible thing to rely upon for motes, because it's entirely ST-dependent, and I've been in games where the ST was notoriously stingy with stunt rewards. Hearthstones are limited to giving you 2 to 10 motes PER HOUR. Feeding requires you kill someone and sit there to feed, which is to say that you have to have won for it to happen.


Like relying on stunt dice for all your wp or mote regain, attunement notes are only useful if the ST allows them to be, but few (if any) STs are generous enough with enemies carrying artifacts for it to even factor into things.


EDIT: Heck, the people who did 2.5 said that Attunement Motes turned out to be problematic useless, and that they were on the slate to get the axe or an edit until 3rd turned out to be a thing.
 
[QUOTE="Thief of Words]No, I'm saying they're still somewhat mote starved even with those things. Stunting is a horrible thing to rely upon for motes, because it's entirely ST-dependent, and I've been in games where the ST was notoriously stingy with stunt rewards. Hearthstones are limited to giving you 2 to 10 motes PER HOUR. Feeding requires you kill someone and sit there to feed, which is to say that you have to have won for it to happen.
Like relying on stunt dice for all your wp or mote regain, attunement notes are only useful if the ST allows them to be, but few (if any) STs are generous enough with enemies carrying artifacts for it to even factor into things.


EDIT: Heck, the people who did 2.5 said that Attunement Motes turned out to be problematic useless, and that they were on the slate to get the axe or an edit until 3rd turned out to be a thing.

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^ = The jist of what I was saying. Abyssals have a piss-poor time trying to keep their Essence pools filled. The only other option would be to take copious amounts of Essence Engorgement Technique, but that means you have to blow a number of Charm slots, as well as the fact that you have to have Lore 5 and have to either feed copiously or terrorise large numbers of people for a long time to get the motes back.
 
On an aside, one thing I always house-ruled with EET or similar mote pool expanders was that every hour a character spent working toward their Motivation or in direct support of an Intimacy would refill the expander's pool to an amount as determined by the ST, i.e. An Abyssal with EET and the Motivation "Bring the Marukan Alliance down on itself in blood and flames" who causes a civil war between several of the largest horse tribes might regain between five and the full ten motes, depending on how quickly the civil war kicks off.


Captain Hesperus
 
[QUOTE="Thief of Words]No, I'm saying they're still somewhat mote starved even with those things. Stunting is a horrible thing to rely upon for motes, because it's entirely ST-dependent, and I've been in games where the ST was notoriously stingy with stunt rewards. Hearthstones are limited to giving you 2 to 10 motes PER HOUR.

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1: The first two tiers of stunt rewards are not ST-dependant. They are actually entirely objective. Technically they need the ST to okay them, but his job is that of a referee making sure you're fulfilling criteria, not a judge determining quality.


2: Hearthstones giving 2-10 motes per hour... You know normal mote respiration only gives 4 or 8 motes per hour of limited/no activity, right? In some ways, hearthstones are better than normal respiration.


Pick up a 2-dot hearthstone, that's light activity respiration even when you're running for your life for hours on end. Go the whole hog with a 5 dot stone, you respire essence faster than sleep! AND you get a magic rock with powers, of admittedly dubious balance. Presumably a Manse to go with it, too.


Anyway. I'm feeling a bit sidelined, which is why I haven't posted lately. It's partly my fault for writing Morrigwain as a bystander to events, but I thought people might have picked up him before. Silly of me, I suppose. So, now I'm wondering... What could or should Morrigwain do to get noticed and be dragged more fully into the story?
 
Taliesin said:
Anyway. I'm feeling a bit sidelined, which is why I haven't posted lately. It's partly my fault for writing Morrigwain as a bystander to events, but I thought people might have picked up him before. Silly of me, I suppose. So, now I'm wondering... What could or should Morrigwain do to get noticed and be dragged more fully into the story?
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Shapeshift into a pubic louse and hitch a ride on the Lover. I'm sure you would be in close quarters with a fair number of fellow lice there....


Captain Hesperus
 
[QUOTE="Captain Hesperus]Shapeshift into a pubic louse and hitch a ride on the Lover. I'm sure you would be in close quarters with a fair number of fellow lice there...

[/QUOTE]I don't know what to make of this... I can't tell if it's poking fun, insulting or... :confused:
 
Taliesin said:
I don't know what to make of this... I can't tell if it's poking fun, insulting or... :confused:
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Most assuredly, taking the mick out of the Lover.


Captain Hesperus
 
On the subject of Attunement motes, could we put Malfeas Mythos Exultant back to its pre-2.5 state? Or at least have it give Overdrive motes, or something?


If my first idea on saving Ligier (that I still haven't gotten an answer to :rolleyes: ) doesn't pan out, I have another, but it could be a bit of a long shot.
 
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