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That's the same as a social people going up to an ansocial people and saying, hey you should talk more. What, do you hate talking alot or something? Ha, that's weird.
 
RaynaFon said:
That's the same as a social people going up to an ansocial people and saying, hey you should talk more. What, do you hate talking alot or something? Ha, that's weird.
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It kinda goes beyond that, tho. Believe me, I get it, I'm antisocial, I know how it is. But the characters don't play off of each other at all. They adopt a soldierlike mentality where they forgo personality to just do whatever task is at hand, and, unfortunately, there always seems to be a task at hand. The reason I made Max hate Loki for no understandable reason is because it shows human emotion other than the typical "Let's do this/Okay" attitude everyone seems to have. Because of this, Max is shown to be capable of envy and is clearly not above being petty. I also had that lengthy Warthog vs Dragon convo between my two characters to establish that those are the kind of discussions those two characters like to have, and show where their biases lie (Clancy with Lore, Max with craftsmanship)
 
RaynaFon said:
That's the same as a social people going up to an ansocial people and saying, hey you should talk more. What, do you hate talking alot or something? Ha, that's weird.
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Also, Loki is Machiavellian af, and you're trying to tell me she's anti-social? At the very least, she clearly has no social issues in the virtual world just because of how willing she is to take jabs at Max.
 
Sizniche said:
It kinda goes beyond that, tho. Believe me, I get it, I'm antisocial, I know how it is. But the characters don't play off of each other at all. They adopt a soldierlike mentality where they forgo personality to just do whatever task is at hand, and, unfortunately, there always seems to be a task at hand. The reason I made Max hate Loki for no understandable reason is because it shows human emotion other than the typical "Let's do this/Okay" attitude everyone seems to have. Because of this, Max is shown to be capable of envy and is clearly not above being petty. I also had that lengthy Warthog vs Dragon convo between my two characters to establish that those are the kind of discussions those two characters like to have, and show where their biases lie (Clancy with Lore, Max with craftsmanship)
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No, each character clearly shows their own personalities quite well actually. Just cuz you have a clear task at hand and the mindset to complete it, doesn't just mean that they only have soldier like personalities. There's also always a task because our rp kinda as to have that atm in order to keep moving. Staying in town alot risks the likeliness of the rp slowing down without something happening. We can drift into slice-of-life zone for too long. So instead it's easy to forge personalities out of the small interactions between characters. Also, the personality traits you pointed out on max, is clearly also visible with Mahan. You can also tell he's confident and dislikes greed, but also isn't above playing dirty.

Yuna is shy and tends to lack confidence, but is willing to go out of her way. Heh, she also easily flustered, which makes things fun for Loki.

For me though, I'll admit Lurie is kinda just there for me, I try working with her, but I'm not sure where I wanna go with her. She's like my max.
 
RaynaFon said:
No, each character clearly shows their own personalities quite well actually. Just cuz you have a clear task at hand and the mindset to complete it, doesn't just mean that they only have soldier like personalities. There's also always a task because our rp kinda as to have that atm in order to keep moving. Staying in town alot risks the likeliness of the rp slowing down without something happening. We can drift into slice-of-life zone for too long. So instead it's easy to forge personalities out of the small interactions between characters. Also, the personality traits you pointed out on max, is clearly also visible with Mahan. You can also tell he's confident and dislikes greed, but also isn't above playing dirty.

Yuna is shy and tends to lack confidence, but is willing to go out of her way. Heh, she also easily flustered, which makes things fun for Loki.

For me though, I'll admit Lurie is kinda just there for me, I try working with her, but I'm not sure where I wanna go with her. She's like my max.
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Both of my characters are my Max. I guess my complaining is based on the fact that I get zero interaction with ANYONE, and that's why I'm not seeing any of this.

Whatever, maybe I'll get my chance if Quinlan does the competition idea I suggested.
 
Sizniche said:
Also, Loki is Machiavellian af, and you're trying to tell me she's anti-social? At the very least, she clearly has no social issues in the virtual world just because of how willing she is to take jabs at Max.
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Taking jabs at someone is the only way she learned how to deal with someone an ass to her. Under normal circumstances, she really doesn't have much experience with social interactions. Like being hugged, having or going to a party that has people around her age. She's good a pretending, but when it comes to earnest feelings or dealing with someone like Yuna who purely shows their emotions, she has no idea what to do. So people like Max are way easier to deal with for her
 
Sizniche said:
Both of my characters are my Max. I guess my complaining is based on the fact that I get zero interaction with ANYONE, and that's why I'm not seeing any of this.

Whatever, maybe I'll get my chance if Quinlan does the competition idea I suggested.
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That's kinda a hell of your own making there tho lol
 
RaynaFon said:
That's kinda a hell of your own making there tho lol
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RaynaFon said:
Siz: Imma have both of my characters hang around town and not so much til the summer


Siz: WHY DID I DO THIS!?

lol
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Even back when my characters were in the group, nothing was connecting. That's another reason why Max hates Loki (I actually have a long list of meta and non-meta reasons why I made this choice), because they were so against any form of communication. I added Clancy to take a second crack at having a relevant character, and—surprise, surprise—he just became a part of the daily grind.

I'm starting to feel like this might just not be my kind of roleplay, or that I'm not the kind of role player that fits well with you guys' style. I'm tempted to back out, if I'm being perfectly honest.
 
Sizniche said:
RaynaFon RaynaFon What do you think?
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Idk, I like slow build up. I dislike forcing my characters into a situation that would be unrealistic for them, unless it's like an unexpected event. There's also been nothing that max(or clancy) has really talked about that interested Loki. The reason why the whole chess, bandit, gaming interaction went so well, was because it was something Loki could relate to, which is why she they did so well talking that one time. Clancy and Loki might have a good interacting with eachother, cause they have similar biases. However, for max and loki they're interests are so different that it's like rubbing two pieces of sandpaper together when they talk.
 
I mean, Max hating Loki is fine and all, but you've made it so that he hates her to the point where character interaction is nearly impossible between the two of them, and didn't make any real IC reason as to why, making it hard to bridge any gap.

It's kinda like

Max: Just so you know, I hate you now. No I'm not gonna say why. Actually, fk you, that's why.

Loki: Err? Ok then?*goes into default mode in how she deals with people*
 
RaynaFon said:
Idk, I like slow build up. I dislike forcing my characters into a situation that would be unrealistic for them, unless it's like an unexpected event. There's also been nothing that max(or clancy) has really talked about that interested Loki. The reason why the whole chess, bandit, gaming interaction went so well, was because it was something Loki could relate to, which is why she they did so well talking that one time. Clancy and Loki might have a good interacting with eachother, cause they have similar biases. However, for max and loki they're interests are so different that it's like rubbing two pieces of sandpaper together when they talk.
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RaynaFon said:
The interaction that we did have planned kinda fell through tho when max disappeared XD
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Well, here's the thing; I'm a noob RPer. I'm pretty sure this is the fourth or fifth serious RP I've ever been in, aside from a few dozen flops I've been involved in. Because of this, I need new things going on constantly, otherwise I have nothing to act as a catalyst for my characters to play off of. Unfortunately, everything in this roleplay is a typical combat encounter, and when I try to branch off of the beaten path, I get cut off by the night cycle (like with when I ventured into the woods) or get outright rejected (like when I pitched the idea of tracking down the Caspert). I have nothing here to play off of, because, as you yourself addressed, my characters are basically incapable of playing off of any other character.

It's clear you greatly enjoy this, while all it does for me is keep my mind occupied over story ideas I know will never happen, but, as it stands, I do not get the creative satisfaction I want out of this roleplay. That is why I am considering leaving.
RaynaFon said:
I mean, Max hating Loki is fine and all, but you've made it so that he hates her to the point where character interaction is nearly impossible between the two of them, and didn't make any real IC reason as to why, making it hard to bridge any gap.

It's kinda like

Max: Just so you know, I hate you now. No I'm not gonna say why. Actually, fk you, that's why.

Loki: Err? Ok then?*goes into default mode in how she deals with people*
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This is more an issue of these being the exact wrong characters for this kind of conflict. Loki isn't the type to care if someone hates her, so it makes sense why she doesn't try and figure out why he hates her (I don't think you've even actually asked in IC yet), and Max's disdain for her prevents him from even trying.
 
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Sizniche said:
Well, here's the thing; I'm a noob RPer. I'm pretty sure this is the fourth or fifth serious RP I've ever been in, aside from a few dozen flops I've been involved in. Because of this, I need new things going on constantly, otherwise I have nothing to act as a catalyst for my characters to play off of. Unfortunately, everything in this roleplay is a typical combat encounter, and when I try to branch off of the beaten path, I get cut off by the night cycle (like with when I ventured into the woods) or get outright rejected (like when I pitched the idea of tracking down the Caspert). I have nothing here to play off of, because, as you yourself addressed, my characters are basically incapable of playing off of any other character.

It's clear you greatly enjoy this, while all it does for me is keep my mind occupied over story ideas I know will never happen, but, as it stands, I do not get the creative satisfaction I want out of this roleplay. That is why so am considering leaving.
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I think you're wanting a less realistic-action with a fantasy setting rp and more of a slice-of-life with a fantasy setting rp. Which is what the rps that you suggest seem like. They have heavy character interaction that seem focused on their daily lives around eachother.
 
Quinlan63 said:
Hey you guys did I come at a bad time?
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RaynaFon said:
I think you're wanting a less realistic-action with a fantasy setting rp and more of a slice-of-life with a fantasy setting rp. Which is what the rps that you suggest seem like. They have heavy character interaction that seem focused on their daily lives around eachother.
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I mean I like the setting of this, I just feel like more could be done with it, which is why I said I wanted to take a crack at making a spiritual successor.

Quinlan63 said:
Hey you guys did I come at a bad time?
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I might resign.
 
Sizniche said:
This is more an issue of these being the exact wrong characters for this kind of conflict. Loki isn't the type to care if someone hates her, so it makes sense why she doesn't try and figure out why he hates her (I don't think you've even actually asked in IC yet), and Max's disdain for her prevents him from even trying.
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Pretty much. Loki simply coined him as another person that she has to deal with.

Quinlan63 said:
Hey you guys did I come at a bad time?
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Nah, just talking about our views on the rp
 
RaynaFon said:
I think you're wanting a less realistic-action with a fantasy setting rp and more of a slice-of-life with a fantasy setting rp. Which is what the rps that you suggest seem like. They have heavy character interaction that seem focused on their daily lives around eachother.
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Also, I'd actually enjoy this if the the action was more realistic. We win waaaay too much, and by waaaaaay too large of a margin. Literally nothing is a challenge.
 
Sizniche said:
I mean I like the setting of this, I just feel like more could be done with it, which is why I said I wanted to take a crack at making a spiritual successor.


I might resign.
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Ok..........
RaynaFon said:
Pretty much. Loki simply coined him as another person that she has to deal with.



Nah, just talking about our views on the rp
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Good to hear

Based on what I've read we might have to speed things up so we can have more social interaction.............

Sizniche said:
Also, I'd actually enjoy this if the the action was more realistic. We win waaaay too much, and by waaaaaay too large of a margin. Literally nothing is a challenge.
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That is mostly my fault really
 
Sizniche said:
Also, I'd actually enjoy this if the the action was more realistic. We win waaaay too much, and by waaaaaay too large of a margin. Literally nothing is a challenge.
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yeah, which is why I've been trying to make alot of op raid bosses. Cuz normal mobs are a joke thanks to our skills lol
 
Quinlan63 said:
Ok..........

Good to hear

Based on what I've read we might have to speed things up so we can have more social interaction.............


That is mostly my fault really
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That's why I've been suggesting tournaments and stuff. We need to do something other than fight the same fight over and over. I wish I followed through with the bandit arc tbh
 
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