Socketed Hearthstones

[wordman]

So, putting a Hearthstone in a Hearthstone Amulet is a substitute for putting the Hearthstone in a "setting of one of the five magical materials"?

Not just "a substitute for". A hearthstone amulet is a type of "setting of one of the five magical materials". In fact, that is all a hearthstone amulet is. They are made out of jade, orichalcum, etc.

I had thought putting a Hearthstone in a magical material setting was a sort of pemanent type of thing (unless you want to break it out).

It isn't. The owner can remove them at will.

So, a Hearthstone must be placed in a setting of magical materials in order to gain its special abilities

Yes.

and then must be placed in a Hearthstone Amulet in order to bring them out, too?

No. Again, A hearthstone amulet is a type of "setting of one of the five magical materials". In the example I gave before, the Monkey Stone could have been put into a daiklave or something just as easily. As I said before in the example when I said "(or some other artifact of the five magical materials to which he is attuned)".

Unset Hearthstones provide their essence regeneration, and set Hearthstones provide that and also provide extra abilities as noted in their Artifact description

Correct.

 

[Flagg]

I had thought putting a Hearthstone in a magical material setting was a sort of pemanent type of thing (unless you want to break it out).

It isn't. The owner can remove them at will.

Is this stated explicitly anywhere?


To me, a "setting" has always implied something rather fixed that holds the stone in place. Rather than just popping it in and out by hand, you'd need a skilled jeweler (indeed, one who could work thr 5MM) to place or remove a hearthstone from an Artifact.


However, this is extremely inconvenient. If hearthstone settings are not actual settings, in the traditional sense, what holds the stone in, and how is it released? Magic?


-S

 

[Thorn Darkblade]

However, this is extremely inconvenient. If hearthstone settings are not actual settings, in the traditional sense, what holds the stone in, and how is it released? Magic?

That's what I was under the impression of, a magic hold of some sort. I've always allowed becoming unattuned to an artifact letting you remove the hearthstone, just so people can't go Manse raiding and get a ton, and switch them out as needed in a snap

 

[wordman]

Is this stated explicitly anywhere?

I remember a reference to the fact that, since stones all have different shapes, that a setting would reconfigure itself to hold the stone. Can't find it now, though. Might be in Bo3C, which I don't have in front of me and, even if I did, the PDF is one of the few that isn't searchable.

 

[Jukashi]

I always thought that putting in and taking out hearthstones was just as simple as the same for materia in ff7. Possibly that was just something put in my head by the similarity.

 

[Lotus1]

so hold on if i have a Adamant Daiklaive i cant use the special ability of my hearthstone?

 

[Thorn Darkblade]

Well, last I checked you can't attune adamant, so my guess is a no

 

[Ker'ion]

I thought that Adamant, being a MM, was able to be made into artifacts, therefore, you could put a Hearthstone into it and gain full functionality of said Hearthstone due to it being set in an artifact.

 

[Flagg]

I thought that Adamant' date=' being a MM[/quote']
Since when is adamant a MM?


-S

 

[Ker'ion]

It's one of the Autocthonian Castes.


And Times of Tumult, pp. 75 has info on it:


It has the same relation to glass as Orichalcum has to gold, etc..


It can cut through steel as if it were butter.


Sounds a wee bit of a MM to me.

 

[Kremlin KOA]

since Autocthonians book

 

[Ker'ion]

Times of Tumult came out before the Autocthoninan Book.


ToT is Copyright 2002, Autobot Book is 2005.


The Times of Tumult book leaves the bonus open.


EM and I use Adamant with the following bonuses:


(+1 Speed and +1 Damage with a Melee Weapon),


(+1 Accuracy and +1 Rate for a Ranged Weapon),


or (+2 Hardness for Armor), depending on it's use.

 

[RainOfSteel]

Everyone,


Ok, another re-read of the Hearthstone rules has brought me up to speed on what you are all discussing.


Once again, many of the statements are now clear that I have an interpretation to go by.


Formerly I was under the impression that a Hearthstone was given its special ability by its setting (no, don't ask me how).  Now I realize it is the structure of the Manse itself that determines the special ability, and that any setting of the magical materials will bring this out.


Hearthstone Amulets, item sockets, etc., all make better sense now.


Thanks.

 

[Ker'ion]

Weeee.