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Stillborn said:
ashenphoenix said:
...which means that I can follow the conversations as they progress, and is awesome.
But wouldn't it be cool if it told me what people actually said in their replies?
Yes. It would.
As I said, greediness :D


Or, more correctly "after everything else is done and you're _really_ _really_ bored
 
ashenphoenix said:
As I said, greediness :D
Or, more correctly "after everything else is done and you're _really_ _really_ bored
I suppose you'd also like the server to email you free porn?


-S
 
http://archive.org[/URL], but I know little about it. Does anyone have ideas about how we might retreive some of the old content?


-S


Greetings all!


I've made a quick search on archive.org and I've found something interresting.  This may not contain all the data of the old site but it's a start and and we may retrieve enough stuff to rebuild a decent library, so if anyone's interested, just take a look :


http://web.archive.org/web/*/exalted.rp ... dium.com/*


http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://exa ... /index.php


Enjoy!


-Ebony
 
I've made a quick search on archive.org and I've found something interresting.  This may not contain all the data of the old site but it's a start and and we may retrieve enough stuff to rebuild a decent library, so if anyone's interested, just take a look :


http://web.archive.org/web/*/exalted.rp ... dium.com/*


http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://exa ... /index.php
If Stillborn okays it, and anyone volunteers, I'll provide early access to the management system to do data entry for this stuff.
 
I've made a quick search on archive.org and I've found something interresting.  This may not contain all the data of the old site but it's a start and and we may retrieve enough stuff to rebuild a decent library' date=' so if anyone's interested, just take a look[/quote']
I can't get past the portal page with any of that. Any attempt to follow a link fails.


Have I missed something?


-S
 
Stillborn said:
I've made a quick search on archive.org and I've found something interresting.  This may not contain all the data of the old site but it's a start and and we may retrieve enough stuff to rebuild a decent library' date=' so if anyone's interested, just take a look[/quote']
I can't get past the portal page with any of that. Any attempt to follow a link fails.


Have I missed something?


-S
Sorry, I'm not computer litterate enough to know THAT!


This is what I've found, if you can work something out of that, fine.  Otherwise, too bad, I just lost an hour of my already too short life finding it.


That's all folks!


-Ebony
 
Avatars


I would like to be able to upload an avatar image from my computer in addition to doing so from a website. Also including an auto shrinker/trimmer would be cool.
 
Re: Avatars

I would like to be able to upload an avatar image from my computer in addition to doing so from a website. Also including an auto shrinker/trimmer would be cool.
That's easily done, however it won't be, in an effort to keep bandwidth usage reasonable.


-S
 
Re: Avatars

I would like to be able to upload an avatar image from my computer in addition to doing so from a website. Also including an auto shrinker/trimmer would be cool.
Cheetah...


1) go to http://www.photobucket.com


2) Get a free account...


3) upload the avtar image you want there and copy the url and paste into your profile's avatar section and you're good to go.


4) Did I mention it had a shrinker function in the editing area for the image?
 
Stillborn said:
I've made a quick search on archive.org and I've found something interresting.  This may not contain all the data of the old site but it's a start and and we may retrieve enough stuff to rebuild a decent library' date=' so if anyone's interested, just take a look[/quote']
I can't get past the portal page with any of that. Any attempt to follow a link fails.


Have I missed something?
I managed to get some forum topics by following a few links, but that was a bout it :/


I also got SQLd - ahhh, the fond memories never cease...to know that at any time I can re-experience the frustration of having my cookie die :P
 
I'ma be a jerk here and post without throughly searching for this topic, though it's possibly been covered.


When one submits material such as a charm into the submissions area, that doesn't necesarially mean that the author believes it to be perfectly done, and may want to tweak it before 'final' submission.


I'd suggest a more lenient policy regarding posting content.  Instead of disallowing posts in the submissions area, I think things oughta be a little more relaxed.  As it is, with all the controls that are attached to this process, I cannot envision it becoming the EC Ghetto again.  Or is there already a system being worked on to alleviate this problem?


I have seen that one thing that this board's core members seem to value is their uncensored 'anything goes' kind of environment, however, how far do you allow this power to be extended, beyond yourselves?
 
MOK said:
I'ma be a jerk here and post without throughly searching for this topic, though it's possibly been covered.
When one submits material such as a charm into the submissions area, that doesn't necesarially mean that the author believes it to be perfectly done, and may want to tweak it before 'final' submission.
Nothing in the actual submission sections is "final" per se, it is just APPROVED by our loose guidelines (i.e. it's not total crap).  


If, at any time based on the ratings and commentary received in its submitted form, the author wishes to revise, the author need but send a private message to an auditor, and it will be moved back into the pending area where they can work on it and tweak it.  Once it is complete to their content, they need but PM an auditor again, and it will be moved back.


Either way, it's a temporary system until the actual submission system is in place - it is being worked on now.

MOK said:
I'd suggest a more lenient policy regarding posting content.  Instead of disallowing posts in the submissions area, I think things oughta be a little more relaxed.  As it is, with all the controls that are attached to this process, I cannot envision it becoming the EC Ghetto again.  Or is there already a system being worked on to alleviate this problem?
Based on what some of us have experienced, we simply want to take as little risk as possible that the same shit might start slipping through again.  Submissions will always need to be initially approved, and reapproved after being editted.  Eventually you will be able to "take things back down for editting" from the system without auditor assistance, which should more or less content anyone.  Until that time, bear with us.

MOK said:
I have seen that one thing that this board's core members seem to value is their uncensored 'anything goes' kind of environment, however, how far do you allow this power to be extended, beyond yourselves?
In the discussion forums, just as you said - anything (short of OBVIOUS attempts at MECHANICAL disruption, such as intentional mass spam to derail a conversation) goes.  There will be no CONTENT editting in discussion forums.  Submission forums will, on the other hand, be controlled in terms of grammar and obvious and MASSIVE theme breaches; the Carbonic Daiklaive of Ben and Jerrys Ice Cream with +500 to Armor Class will not be approved, nor will be "teh really good bazookaz uf teh leet lord."  Things that are even losely in theme and with reasonable grammar and spelling are fine (which includes the VAST majority of submissions).


We had a lot of horrible submissions back on the old EC, please trust that we are applying our experience in our judgement for the better of all in this case.  None of us are interested in censoring you, only controlling the quality (in the loosest sense) of submissions.
 
Joseph said:
We had a lot of horrible submissions back on the old EC, please trust that we are applying our experience in our judgement for the better of all in this case.  None of us are interested in censoring you, only controlling the quality (in the loosest sense) of submissions.
*Warning: Humanities student wankery*


Erm, the kid does have a point though. Having content have to be approved does create Hegemonic power structures, which discourage use of the system by creating artificial feelings of censorship (Big Brother/Panopticon-style).


In order to avoid this, it may help to be clearer on the temporary nature of this system (and why), correlations that it will have to the Content Rating System. Also, maybe make explicit the 'marking criteria' for required submissions:

  1. Spelling and Grammar
  2. Mechanical Consistancy
  3. Appropriate Themes
  4. etc


I don't know if the above are relevant. Maybe some of the high-calibre raters could come up with some guidelines for n00bs?


Oh and MOK? Because you didn't seach for this topic, your opinion doesn't count for jack squat. If you had bothered to look, then you would have found the relevant discussion. I'm not a Mod, and so don't have to be nice to you. Go read the rating thread.
 
ashenphoenix said:
Joseph said:
We had a lot of horrible submissions back on the old EC, please trust that we are applying our experience in our judgement for the better of all in this case.  None of us are interested in censoring you, only controlling the quality (in the loosest sense) of submissions.
*Warning: Humanities student wankery*


Erm, the kid does have a point though. Having content have to be approved does create Hegemonic power structures, which discourage use of the system by creating artificial feelings of censorship (Big Brother/Panopticon-style).
I didn't say he didn't have a point.  However, what you have to bear in mind is the Compendium has never been very friendly to people who draw stupid conclusions (note: I'm not talking about either you or him).  Any individual who IS discouraged from using this system because we check for basic grammar can fuck off, for the same reason anyone who can't handle being told what an idiot they are can fuck off.

ashenphoenix said:
In order to avoid this, it may help to be clearer on the temporary nature of this system (and why), correlations that it will have to the Content Rating System. Also, maybe make explicit the 'marking criteria' for required submissions:
  1. Spelling and Grammar
  2. Mechanical Consistancy
  3. Appropriate Themes
  4. etc


I don't know if the above are relevant. Maybe some of the high-calibre raters could come up with some guidelines for n00bs?
The current system is temporary, but basic approval will probably always exist; there was too much UTTER shit on the old EC to live without it.  As far as the terms of approval, I believe they're posted multiple times, and as I said consist mostly of grammar and basic thematic acceptability (which is impossible to completely define given the nature of theme, but an example is given above).  


If people can't handle very, very general approval of their submissions being required, they aren't emotionally stable enough to be worth taking into account.  At the same time, everything that DOES fail to meet approval will be explained via PM, and if something seems unfair or unreasonable, post the explanation on one of the boards and complain about it.  Our community won't tolerate bullshit abuses of power, in that I trust completely.


I'm not sure what there is to worry about.  

ashenphoenix said:
Oh and MOK? Because you didn't seach for this topic, your opinion doesn't count for jack squat. If you had bothered to look, then you would have found the relevant discussion. I'm not a Mod, and so don't have to be nice to you. Go read the rating thread.
Mods don't have to be nice to him either.
 
Damn.  I'd read through all the stickies, and perused a large portion of the boards and couldn't remember where/if that topic was covered.  I just couldnt remember it, and figured my better-than-cursory look was enough.  oh well.


yeh, as AshenPhoenix mentioned, it's the big brother thing going on.  that combined with your collective backlash against "everyone else," as ive observed it, that can be worrying.  Despite those, though, the board seems pretty cool to me.
 
MOK said:
I'd suggest a more lenient policy regarding posting content.  Instead of disallowing posts in the submissions area, I think things oughta be a little more relaxed.  As it is, with all the controls that are attached to this process, I cannot envision it becoming the EC Ghetto again.  Or is there already a system being worked on to alleviate this problem?
This does bring up something I've been thinking about.  For example, Mempo was working on a very interesting spell involving hounds and senseless violence.  She said that it was a work in progress and that she wanted feedback.


The diea of a submission that no one cobnsiders finished sitting in the submissions section bothers me a little.  I'm wondering if we should create a Workshop forum, for people hammering out new submissions to receive advice from citizens.


Also, becuase I don't need to be nice to anyone:


Read the fucking boards.  We talk about things for a reason, and I'm not interested in discussing it again.
 
Read the fucking boards.  We talk about things for a reason' date=' and I'm not interested in discussing it again.[/quote']
I assume thats directed towards me.  I mentioned before, I've read a good portion of these boards already.  It's not completely reasonable to expect a board newbie to have it ALL digested in so short a time.  =op


Can you at least point me in the right direction?
 
This does bring up something I've been thinking about.  For example, Mempo was working on a very interesting spell involving hounds and senseless violence.  She said that it was a work in progress and that she wanted feedback.
The diea of a submission that no one cobnsiders finished sitting in the submissions section bothers me a little.  I'm wondering if we should create a Workshop forum, for people hammering out new submissions to receive advice from citizens.
The entire section is a "workshop" -- nothing is NECESSARILY finished, ever.


If someone has only VAGUE ideas about a given submission, and don't have enough in their head for it to be approvable, they should post it in one of the discussion forums, like we did on the old EC.


However, the entire POINT of having Submission Ratings and Submission Commentary is to help improve submissions.  By its very nature, the system is set up to work with submissions that aren't perfected yet.


Mempo, for instance, doesn't necessarily think her Spell is finished, but there IS enough of it there to be a viable submission.  Thus she put it in the correct place, and it is now in the correct forum for ratings and commentary.  If and when commentary is provided that makes her feel like she has a better idea of where she wants it to go, she can ask for it back to touch up.  Until then, it's there for anyone who is happy to use it in its current form.
 
Joseph said:
This does bring up something I've been thinking about.  For example, Mempo was working on a very interesting spell involving hounds and senseless violence.  She said that it was a work in progress and that she wanted feedback.
The diea of a submission that no one cobnsiders finished sitting in the submissions section bothers me a little.  I'm wondering if we should create a Workshop forum, for people hammering out new submissions to receive advice from citizens.
The entire section is a "workshop" -- nothing is NECESSARILY finished, ever.


If someone has only VAGUE ideas about a given submission, and don't have enough in their head for it to be approvable, they should post it in one of the discussion forums, like we did on the old EC.
That's what I'm saying.  There's a forum for workshoping stories, there's a forum for discussing the setting, one again for game mechanics.  There's a forum to discuss <strik>Star Wars</strike>  off topic stuff, and there's even a private club for you, me and stillborn to play the games of divinity.


I suppose we could offer room in the mechanics, storyteller and settings forums to workshopping; however I wonder whether there isn't some wisdom in creating an area wherein people can offer up ideas that are somewhere between Brain Lint and Submission Quality, for the assistance of Citizens who feel magnanimous - something Haku is known to be prone to ;)

However, the entire POINT of having Submission Ratings and Submission Commentary is to help improve submissions.  By its very nature, the system is set up to work with submissions that aren't perfected yet.
Especially after we have a coded submissions system, an area in which Citizens can update their submission constantly without needing to wait for reapproval is not an altogether bad idea. Most submissions needn't stay there, but having an area in which Citizens can hammer out the basics of a contribution before submitting it for our decision seems like a nice idea to me.  It saves us  from having to shunt posts back and forth across the boards, and I suspect it'll cut down a lot of OMG I JUTS HAD TEH MOSST AWESOME IDEA WHAT IF THE MASK OF WINDTERS WAS A SOLAR< HERE IS THE DAIKLAIVE I MADE HIM style submissions..


The pending submission board, however, should remain post free.  Things in there are supposed to be ready for consideration.

MOK:
I assume thats directed towards me.  I mentioned before, I've read a good portion of these boards already.  It's not completely reasonable to expect a board newbie to have it ALL digested in so short a time.  =op


Can you at least point me in the right direction?
No it isn't completely reasonable.  But if you want to ask a question, I'd appreciate if you could search the boards for information - the site is still very small, we haven't had long to accumulate a selection of chafe.  


Firstly:  "Search the boards for submissons"


Secondly:  Front page of the Redux Project Forum:  Why can't we reply to Pending Submisions?


However, for not throwing a tantrum and sulking in a corner when we all decided to yell at you, I should mention that I think you're an allright guy, and EC material.  Expect people to yell at you, but revel in your right to yell right back.
 

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