School of Hades

UltraYuseke said:
Forgive me if this is rude, but did you steal the idea of my characters Kyo and Ryo? It feels a whole lot like you're doing that.
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You heard it here first, folks- every single character with multiple forms is a ripoff of Ultra's guy. He was the very first person to ever use the idea of a character that changes into another character and as such holds copyright on it.
 
Nautilus said:
You heard it here first, folks- every single character with multiple forms is a ripoff of Ultra's guy. He was the very first person to ever use the idea of a character that changes into another character and as such holds copyright on it.
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No, it's more of wondering, since I've only seen him do the multiple characters idea twice, both being within the last three days. I made Ryo/Kyo a good month or two ago, and it's highly possible he'd seen those characters. Not saying that all characters like that are rip-offs of mine.


 
Also, I meant the multiple people being in one body part, not multiple forms. Multiple forms and multiple different people in a body are completely different.
 
So kind of like how you saw Yumi and decided to scrap basically your entire character and turn her into a sympathetic sickly girl which just so happened to be Yumi's whole thing?


And your concept isn't original in the slightest. Jekyll and Hyde? Or more likely Samurai Deeper Kyo I guess since you're all about them Chinese cartoons.
 
Nautilus said:
So kind of like how you saw Yumi and decided to scrap basically your entire character and turn her into a sympathetic sickly girl which just so happened to be Yumi's whole thing?
And your concept isn't original in the slightest. Jekyll and Hyde? Or more likely Samurai Deeper Kyo I guess since you're all about them Chinese cartoons.
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Before I say anything, is that directed at me...?
 
The only part I even understand what he might mean is the Yumi part, and I don't see what that has to do with me... Everything else is just... I don't know what he's saying on those other parts.
 
Have you seriously never heard of The Curious Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?


You know, mild mannered genius and uncouth, murderous brute sharing a body? Marked change in personality and in some versions physical appearance when Hyde takes over? Sound similar to something you were talking about? Something you may have claimed was original?
 
Alright. Allow me to explain, since apparently you didn't get it. I shall take it apart piece by piece then.

So kind of like how you saw Yumi and decided to scrap basically your entire character and turn her into a sympathetic sickly girl which just so happened to be Yumi's whole thing?


And your concept isn't original in the slightest. Jekyll and Hyde? Or more likely Samurai Deeper Kyo I guess since you're all about them Chinese cartoons.
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Good, you understand the part of Yumi, a character who had no powers and was a sickly individual. Alright, now then you ask 'how does it relate to you'. You had Belts (I can't remember the name of the character, so for the sake of this I shall refer to it as Belts, as it was the only real feature I remember. Possibly something about a Grim Reaper, but I am not sure if that was the same character.)


Belts was a being with powers, and some weird mind state, or something. (As I said I really don't remember). Now then, you turned Belts into an 'ordinary character' (which could be reversed at will so it was 'no harm'). Now then, this would be taking/stepping on someone who had that pre-established gimmick, Yumi.


You saw Yumi, and I would say the attention from being such sickly character, and figured, 'that sounds cool', and decided to completely change your character's gimmick to score some of that attention, through, some asinine reason.


So, with Belts you copied, the gimmick of Yumi y'see?


As for the second part. The Gimmick of Jekyll and Hyde. If you weren't aware of the story it is a classic (which I would recommend reading), which involves the Doctor Jekyll, a nice mannered man, who took a potion and would transform into the Notorious Mister Hyde a far crueler individual.


It is the gimmick of the 'inner beast' and the transformation into said creature. AKA the evil within. It is one, which is fairly common in its nature. As such it isn't an original concept.


Does that help explain Nautilus comment?


@Nautilus, does that sound about right in what you were trying to explain?
 
MechaGhoul said:
So, with Belts you copied, the gimmick of Yumi y'see?
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Copied the gimmick...? I'm sorry, but you completely misunderstand... I was under the assumption that my character had just been hit several times in the stomach by an electric cattle prod back then. How the hell's that stealing someone's gimmick? If anything, I did the opposite of Yumi with my changes to my character. Made them human, but definitely not sickly or anything. More like made her way healthier than she was before, mind and soul.


 
And on that second part, I have no clue in hell about it. Never heard of Jekyll and Hyde. In fact, what the hell are you bringing that up in comparison to, anyway? From that description I've read you gave, doesn't relate to anything of mine in the least..
 
That isn't the part that was the gimmick.


The gimmick was being a person with 'no powers'. (Which you could reverse at will.) That was the gimmick, being a sickly person with no powers.


You just made it 'safer', by being able to reverse it if you so chose, and being a healthier individual. However you still did the 'No Powers' gimmick, which is the gimmick that was done.


 
By the by, I would highly recommend reading Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. It is a good book. A classic.
 
You really do know how to assume everything you know's what other people know... Think about it. How in the hell would I know that Yumi had no powers? I mean, I never once really looked at the character sheets unless it was for something like Masako's fight with Charlotte. It really ticks me off when people think they're more correct on a situation than somebody else, even though both arguments are equally as good until proven or disproved. All I did was drop Masako's curses by turning her human. That was my original path, and that path lead to "She's human, she's losing her curses, gotta be some kind of price. How about no more powers in her current state to make it so it's not just ditching things without something making it balanced?"


 


MechaGhoul said:
By the by, I would highly recommend reading Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde. It is a good book. A classic.
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Don't really read much literature. Most I read's stuff on here, and then a few light novels.
 
Because. She was a cripple.


The posts with Yumi reflected this. She had a hard time carrying books, and running, etc. Physical activity was very straining to her. She would quickly run out of breath. And in her dialogue she had mentioned being in the hospital quite often.


Even if you had not read the bio, from these posts one would most likely deduce, that Yumi is not a physically fit individual, and fairly sickly.

Don't really read much literature. Most I read's stuff on here' date=' and then a few light novels.[/quote']
Well that's a shame. Literature is a fine past time to engage in. Good books are quite entertaining.
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I think it was pretty clear she had no powers around the second time she got the shit kicked out of her, Ultra. Though I now realize you probably didn't read those, either.


And as for how Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde relates to this how about the part where it predates your character while doing the same "multiple people sharing a body" gimmick. Your accusations of plagarism are baseless and rooted pretty much entirely in your own egotism.
 
That still doesn't tell me how I'd know of the whole 'no powers' gimmick you're talking about. You're just talking about things I already proved I wasn't even considering with Masako. Your whole argument is that I knew about this whole gimmick of no powers, but you're not proving it in any way.


 


Nautilus said:
I think it was pretty clear she had no powers around the second time she got the shit kicked out of her, Ultra. Though I now realize you probably didn't read those, either.
And as for how Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde relates to this how about the part where it predates your character while doing the same "multiple people sharing a body" gimmick. Your accusations of plagarism are baseless and rooted pretty much entirely in your own egotism.
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Not once did I claim plagiarism. I was simply asking if my characters Ryo and Kyo were where Chester got his idea of doing multiple characters in one from. Not once did I full-blown claim he stole my idea or anything. All I did was simply ask if he did or not.
 
You pretty much did. You asked:

UltraYuseke said:
Forgive me if this is rude, but did you steal the idea of my characters Kyo and Ryo? It feels a whole lot like you're doing that.
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UltraYuseke said:
No, their powers get completely sealed when they lose the bet... did you not read the char sheet in any way?
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That's pretty rich coming from you, Mr. "I never once really looked at the character sheets".
 
Yeah, by 'never really', at most, I skim basic details, like name, appearance, and read any words at the top. From what I know though, pretty much everybody else likes to read 'em. Also, I never claimed he did, it was a question. Even if it included the word steal, it doesn't mean I claimed he stole it, as it was part of me asking if he did. I'm honestly getting tired of how you think that everything you two believe is fact, regardless of anything else.
 
Lol. Look at Nautilus causing trouble. I knew you were the trouble type.


Anyway, I want to say, you all better be nice to Mmmischief's character or I'll be really mad! Mmmischief I've got your back! :5/5:
 
Gotta love those four or so dudes just squatting right outside of the gym waiting for someone to come out and notice them.
 
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