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[AaronMk]

For the record silver as being the big thing vs werewolves is only something that emerged in the last two hundred years. The oldest attested case of silver being written about as the weapon vs werewolves was in 17th century Germany, and only a very small part of Germany, because as with the rest of Europe the "cure" or weapon against Lycanthropy has varied in folklore quiet considerably with time and place. Romans believed just exhausting the Werewolf was enough to purge the subject of the curse and make the person revert back. Variously in Medieval and Early Modern Europe it's ranged from just calling out the person's Christian name, applying wolfsbane somehow, or bopping them in the head with a piece of iron or even a small knife.

 

[Daisie]

Introvert and Extrovert is merely a personality trait. Generally born with. If your someone who has added social anxieties your looking at a diagnosis for a disorder. BUT that deosn't tie into the baseline personality trait of introvert and extrovert.

Introverts who are true introverts not spurned by social anxiety statistically are more : stoic, mindful, and confident. They do not need social validation of others. Where extroverts do.

It is a common myth the introvert is an anxiety ridden individual. Sometimes people are just more social and some are not. There are so many reasons for this.

I would say an introvert understands and value's their time more. Not being swayed by social fuel from others. Where an extravert's value is matched with their social life.

Anything past that, your looking at something else.

HEAVY disagree with this. All the labels "introvert" and "extrovert" mean (at least as I've come to know it) is that an introvert's battery is recharged by being alone, while an extrovert's battery is charged by being with other people. None of this impacts whether someone is stoic, mindful, or confident whatsoever.

I have known plenty of people who were introverted, but not stoic, mindful, or confident in the slightest. Maybe they had mental problems, but that also didn't make them any less of an introvert. I've also met extroverts who were fiercely confident in themselves, could brush off outside opinion like nothing, and who regularly bore horrible pains with unbelievable stoicism.

Introverts can be shy and need validation from their peers just as much as they can be confident and independent. Just the same, extroverts can need validation from their peers, but they can still also be confident and independent. Self-worth and and a reliance of external validation have nothing to do with being introverted of extroverted.

And I don't even really know what you're getting at by saying that introverts value their time more than extroverts? I don't know if this is what you meant, but you're coming off as saying that spending time with people is somehow less valuable than spending time alone. I feel like this viewpoint is just boiling down "introvert" into "wise and quiet individual", and "extrovert" into "loud and ditzy party-goer".

I apologize for probably coming across as combative, but I honestly don't see how saying that extroverts don't value their time as much and rely on validation is any different than saying that all introverts have are just anxious recluses. It's just on the other side of the spectrum.

 

[Idea]

I have known plenty of people who were introverted, but not stoic, mindful, or confident in the slightest.

In fairness KAOS did say "statistically are more". That implies they were, at least on that paragraph, talking about averages / tendencies found in data. At least how it came across to me was that he was saying it was more common according to statistics for extroverts to be "stoic, mindful and confident".

Personally this smells like badly collected data to me but without seeing the study itself I can't claim anything either way. That being said I don't think Kaos was implying that all introverts are more "stoic mindful and confident" than all extroverts, just on average.

 

[KAOS]

I do feel that was hostile. I'm not debating or responding but yes it aligns with what idea said.

 

[Daisie]

In fairness KAOS did say "statistically are more". That implies they were, at least on that paragraph, talking about averages / tendencies found in data. At least how it came across to me was that he was saying it was more common according to statistics for extroverts to be "stoic, mindful and confident".

Personally this smells like badly collected data to me but without seeing the study itself I can't claim anything either way. That being said I don't think Kaos was implying that all introverts are more "stoic mindful and confident" than all extroverts, just on average.

I do feel that was hostile. I'm not debating or responding but yes it aligns with what idea said.

Yeah that's fair
I'm sorry for being snippy about it. Averages are much different than individuals, that's very true. I didn't take that into account in my response and that's my bad. I interpreted aggressions where there wasn't any in that way. I would be interested in seeing the study this comes from.

The comment about introverts understanding and valuing their time more still gets to me though. I don't really understand what that means, so I might be misunderstanding. An implication like that sounds hostile, too?

 

[KAOS]

Yeah that's fair
I'm sorry for being snippy about it. Averages are much different than individuals, that's very true. I didn't take that into account in my response and that's my bad. I interpreted aggressions where there wasn't any in that way. I would be interested in seeing the study this comes from.

The comment about introverts understanding and valuing their time more still gets to me though. I don't really understand what that means, so I might be misunderstanding. An implication like that sounds hostile, too?

Again, I just don't want to debate or speculate what I said was meant to be offensive at all. Because it was not meant to be at all and I'll be transparent and honest that gave me an anxiety attack. Though, I was referring to stoic lectures I had been watching and some references to a book a friend was reading. About the power of the introvert.


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That sounded hostile to you because you translated as a hostile response in your mind. My post is seven sentences. I wasn't debating anyone. I didn't quote anyone. I just wrote seven sentences. I was actively coming from a place advocating for introverts which more often then not Is clumped with mental illness stigma. That's wrong. No where in my post was I advocating for stereotypes. No where did I say extroverts were ditzy and introverts were not. Stoic doesn't mean wise. Mindful doesn't mean your a saint. Confidence takes work for everyone. Though, someone who is introverted. May have a easier time being stoic, mindful which does build self confidence. Because it's in their nature to be so. Of course they value their time. It's in the definition of introvert.

It's disheartening it's twisted into something aggressive. Even asking me if my own sentence is aggressive is - a bit much.

I'm not looking for a response. Our visions of introvert/extrovert are different.
I just would like to end it with that so my anxiety can calm

 

[Daisie]

I just would like to end it with that so my anxiety can calm

Got it.

 

[AlexneushoornTheGreat]

Wow, I didn't mean for my question to start a flame war like this...Guess I should be more careful about what questions I ask to avoid misunderstandings like this from occurring again?

 

[KAOS]

Wow, I didn't mean for my question to start a flame war like this...Guess I should be more careful about what questions I ask to avoid misunderstandings like this from occurring again?

Absolutely not! All your questions are so thought provoking. I really really encourage you keep it up. This is what people need so they can digest complicated questions and learn how to communicate valid and authentic answers. The Great, please don't stop asking questions like this because of a social hiccup.

Emotions can be part of the process.

You are really awesome AlexneushoornTheGreat, keep up the thought provoking questions!

 

[AlexneushoornTheGreat]

Jon-LockeEdwards Who do you think you are, mate? Henry Cavill? XD

 

[Jon-LockeEdwards]

Jon-LockeEdwards Who do you think you are, mate? Henry Cavill? XD

I'm just a cheeky bugger having a lil friendly fun is all. LOL

 

[AlexneushoornTheGreat]

I'm just a cheeky bugger having a lil friendly fun is all. LOL

I know, lol. My reply was intended in a joking manner as well.

 

[Jon-LockeEdwards]

I know, lol. My reply was intended in a joking manner as well.

I figured. XD

You pass the vibe check. Bless you, mate.