Plan and Plotting [Fight or Flight]

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@HunterJJ


So its kind of impossible for a first time student, who has never seen or been to the course before and has only recently found out about his powers to beat level two, let alone level five. The grid is supposed to be a challenge where level 5 is graduate level. There are several returning students with various powers who have yet to beat graduate level. Dex who is a teacher only managed level 3. Granted he wasn't over exerting himself however it wouldn't be possible for Damion to just walk in and beat level 5 with no issues.
 
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Lines are the beams of lasers which can cut through solid steel, I can tone it down for sure, at the end of the day you run the show. Of course some teachers cant do level fives, not all powers are created equal, Damion's power is pretty good when it comes to destroying things and especially when it comes to this course, he can basically just prefire his beams down the lanes and wait for the dummies to run into them, granted it's kind of cheating the system but Damion's powers are pretty badass and suit this course really, really well. Sorry if this comes off as sarcastic or snarky, I swear it's not my intent but logically speaking, this course should be a cakewalk for him, if you'd like to I can make it a level three, but pretending that ten dummies is going to challenge this guy is ignoring the fact that his power is a very good one. My bad about the "walk on like I'm the man" thing if that's how it came off, I didn't realize that level fives were so difficult considering that they go all the way up to nine, I thought that five was intermediate. I'll repost later and make it a level three if that's cool with you.
 
A level 1 run would be more realistic, no matter how OP your powers are. I mean, computer controlled barrages of paintballs are hard to avoid, even for Gray. It doesn't matter how easily your character can destroy the dummies if he's shot up before the dummies appear.
 
[QUOTE="Alex Phalin]A level 1 run would be more realistic, no matter how OP your powers are. I mean, computer controlled barrages of paintballs are hard to avoid, even for Gray. It doesn't matter how easily your character can destroy the dummies if he's shot up before the dummies appear.

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I agree, his powers are a bit OP, but we're all on the same side anyway, also my man Damion got dat energy field, can stop those paintballs in their tracks, the drawback is that the energy field takes a lot of energy which came into play when I wrote out the scene as the man passed out as he finished the course.
 
Also, your character has just recently discovered his powers, yes? So how does he already know how to easily create AND maintain heavily damaging lasers, especially given the cubes are tungsten, that thing used in light bulbs specifically because it DOESN'T MELT.
 
[QUOTE="The Kaosophile]Also, your character has just recently discovered his powers, yes? So how does he already know how to easily create AND maintain heavily damaging lasers, especially given the cubes are tungsten, that thing used in light bulbs specifically because it DOESN'T MELT.

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Two and a half years of practice and training isn't really that recent
 
http://www.gizmodo.in/Science/Physicists-are-Making-Solid-Light/articleshow/42356502.cms[/URL]
TL;DR: Light don't stop for shit, bro
Are you really trying to get scientific, with this RP... damn lol. You even looked up an article, wow that's commitment, and whats with the hostility FFS, relax.


If we were to get factual for one second with this RP, everyone would be disqualified, everyone, including you.


Let me reiterate every character on this RP would be disqualified if we involved scientific facts, I could come up with some pseudo scientific crap about how he is connected to the light and can make it take certain forms but I'm not going to spend the time, it's pointless, there are characters here who can benchpress the weight of a cruise ship, stop time, control swords, read minds, control electricity, just to name a few, and none are remotely possible, so what makes my characters powers any less realistic.
 
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To be fair. Despite my absence from this rp due to... Well. Complete lack of time to dedicate to something moving this fast. Since I still read it . Allow me to chime in. Light beams are a bit. Well, you can't really make solid light at all. Because of what light is. And even if you could. It wouldn't actually be very... Well. Destructive. . Without some kind of free flowing energy that a solid form doesn't have. (Probably very wrong on this.) and even with suspension of disbelief. That's unbelievably over powered.
 
HunterJJ said:
Are you really trying to get scientific, with this RP... damn lol. You even looked up an article, wow that's commitment, and whats with the hostility FFS, relax.
If we were to get factual for one second with this RP, everyone would be disqualified, everyone, including you.


Everyone, I could come up with some pseudo scientific crap about how he is connected to the light and can make it take certain forms but I'm not going to spend the time, it's pointless, there are characters here who can benchpress the weight of a cruise ship, stop time, control swords, read minds, control electricity, just to name a few, and none are remotely possible, so what makes my characters powers any less realistic.
Please don't take it as they're picking on you, its just all posts are read and when something comes up that is really out of place conversation comes up about the theoretical possibility...


If you look back into a thread named new beginnings a mod had a character who could scream so loud your brain would melt, after a few pages it was realized how far fetched it was and as a result he ended up making his character spontaneously hit coma status because he realized how unrealistic he went with his characters.


They're not picking on you, its just something came up out of nowhere.


Basically the reasoning is:


IF you're going to make something very VERY strong there has to be scientific reasoning behind it or you will be called out. Its how the powers are semibalanced.
 
ModelZXGiro said:
To be fair. Despite my absence from this rp due to... Well. Complete lack of time to dedicate to something moving this fast. Since I still read it . Allow me to chime in. Light beams are a bit. Well, you can't really make solid light at all. Because of what light is. And even if you could. It wouldn't actually be very... Well. Destructive. . Without some kind of free flowing energy that a solid form doesn't have. (Probably very wrong on this.) and even with suspension of disbelief. That's unbelievably over powered.
Im not nearly the most OP character on this forum, not by a long shot, there is a guy who can freeze time and we are hung up on the guy who can shoot laser beams and make whips out of light, and by all means, the controlling of electricity is as OP, yet I don't see others complaining about that guy. If @Godman873


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HunterJJ said:
Im not nearly the most OP character on this forum, not by a long shot, there is a guy who can freeze time and we are hung up on the guy who can shoot laser beams and make whips out of light, and by all means, the controlling of electricity is as OP, yet I don't see others complaining about that guy. If @Godman873
The fact comes down to the fact that ALL powers can be "OP" it just depends on how they're used and they really can't see the degree of how they will be used until it is a combat situation.
 
The light weapons thing admittedly was an overlook on my part. I've had a lot going on lately and I should have been more thorough when looking over profiles. It is a bit too far fetched given that light is a mass of energy. It would be very hard to keep as a solid shape as well as have the energy needed to maintain a constant flow of light.


As for the Lasers I understand they are very destructive when channeled as a beam of light. However they would not be so easy to maintain as a constant stream of light. not to mention it would be dangerous to do so seeing as light would keep traveling so long as he kept the beam going. As far as him being able to keep up a constant beam, due to the shear amount of energy that would be needed to create a sizable beam he could probably only hold it 5-10 seconds max and even then he would take a hit to his endurance even if there was light around. Not to mention of the light was originating from him it would probably burn him after a few seconds.


As for other who have "OP" powers The time freezing player has used his abilities very conservatively and has his character not using his powers often. His character has also only recently learned how to used his power so that is the only reason I allowed the ability to be in RP. The electricity character is a returning student and even he has not really used his abilities to the extent of being OP. There really aren't any OP students at the moment everyone has been playing their character more or less fairly pending on their experience, background and actual training. There is a huge difference between training and experimenting in your bed room and heaving actual instruction on how to use your ability form someone who knows what they are doing. .
 
Fuck it, enjoy the RP, you guys are funny, a bunch of people with physically impossible characters telling me that my character is impossible. That's like me saying that Yetis are less real than Unicorns because Unicorns are just horses with horns. At the end of the day it's all complete bullshit no matter how much "science talk" you throw in there, it's like when people at my gym tell me I should cycle my creatine every three months, that right there is an example of what we in the the gym call bro science and what you people are talking about is the writing equivalent of bro science, it's some old bullshit.


One bit of info for all of you budding scientists out there, light is a wave which vibrates, if you could somehow compact light (as a crystal does) you cause them to vibrate at a high rate, which would cause an increase in temperature upon whatever surface the light is exposed to, the more compact, the more heat. Here is the "scientific" explanation for my guys power LMAO. Damion's body acts like a crystal which can compact light into various forms, and the energy of his body is connected to the light energy which his body intakes, the aura of heat which his body produces naturally is a free range area where he can shape and compact light into various structures, allowing him to compact light into certain forms such as swords and whips which are extraordinarily hot as a result of the compaction process, these weapons can be phased through but the heat that they radiate causes most weapons to melt before reaching the other side of the compacted light waves. The crystals which he wears upon his hands allow him to focus beams of light into high intensity lasers which can cut through steel.


I'll have my twenty page research paper ready by sun guys
 
*sighs* at the end of the day, I don't even care about the physics of it.


It's about how OP you play a character. Regardless of their power, if you play them OP, people get called out. We've had it a few times, challenged it and solved it. We've either altered or killed off characters to solve the issue.


The main point is that as a first time student, you beat something which so far is something only a graduate or teacher is capable of. Granted, when the students before did it there was extra firepower and a giant purple dinosaur, but even so.


I personally don't so much care about the powers of characters. Hell, my graduate student is ridiculously strong. However I purposefully play Kojiro as a total dumbfuck and slow and clumsy. Or that his kinetic immunity is purely of physical damage, so a lot of characters can still easily damage him.


I think the point made is that powers in an RP here are for storytelling purposes as a developmental plot point. Smacking with an e-peen a power around is not included.


On a side note, the student who did the best overall, Hayden, was allowed to do so well because he has large past experience in the matter. And he still didn't beat it.


/lecture


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Seeing as you were so ready to criticise my character to make a point, I thought I'd spend a little time defend myself.


Now, in theory, being able to stop time is immensely OP. I mean, there's so much people could do in a frozen time world that others would be powerless to stop.


But that's where I think our two characters differ most. Because I understood my power was potentially OP and gave it suitably crippling drawbacks and limitations. So at the moment Jon can't even interact with anything in the time bubble, and can only sustain it for like half a minute before he loses control. Thus at the moment it is little more than a teleporting ability with more complications. Additionally, I have a load of pseudo-sciencey (well, more philosophical really) reasoning behind everything so that it at least seems like things are thought through more. So whilst I still have an interesting power to work with, I take in to consideration its potential OPness and play fairly.


Other than that, Pica sums up everything perfectly and I have nothing else to add. Other than maybe you should take a point when a sizeable crowd all agrees against you.
 
I've been trying to figure out what was bothering me, and you put it into words perfectly Pica. A character is no fun to play or play with if they don't have weaknesses or flaws. My character Zach feels every single shock he dishes out, so if he hits someone hard enough to knock them out, he'll get knocked out too. Put some limitations on your character, otherwise you won't have any room to grow.
 
Dayum. Look what happened when I was asleep. It should be public knowledge by now that I have had issues with a whole bunch of character's powers in theory, but I now trust the roleplayers to stay responsible with them. Your power could be used responsibly too, just don't beat the grid on level 5. 
I was going to pick light for Alec for a while back then, but I stayed away from it because I didn't want to shoot things at light speed, making it virtually impossible for people to dodge.
 
Mica totally missed an opportunity there.


A Spaniard should have appeared and said "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!"


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Ah, well, in the tension, Jon misunderstood as did I :') Anyhow it still makes an interesting conversation point and you can make Sen pick up on it now and ask Gray why he was banned.
 
LOL Oh yeah. I was just saying in case it was a misunderstanding. It would be interesting to see what happenes though lol
 
I'm getting a really weird glitch where nothing in the grid shows up past Godman's last post. My notifs regarding the thread have all disappeared too :( Anybody having the same issues and if so what's going on? D:
 

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