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welian said:
Also, just want to say
Trump won 2016 in this timeline by feeding off of Rapture-based fear and hatred of Commonwealth'a corruption.
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So when do the US Hunger Games start?


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simj22 said:
WALKING, BREATHING NUKES.
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Aldur said:
Bad simmy. BAD.
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simj22 said:
Well, see, the police, and even SWAT, are instructed not to fire upon criminals, unless a threat has been established, read out miranda rights, use trigger safety, and generally be the guys that return fire, not the instigator.
Can the same be said of the supers? Are they capable of self restraint? Or do they rush in blindly and beat up everything just because someone called their mother fat?
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You seem to be conflating instruction with actual practice here. People are flawed. However good your 'best practices' manual is, there will be individuals who mess up when confronted with the stresses of a real life situation. Self restraint is something institutions teach, but individuals have to practice.


Furthermore, it is often the case that institutions, being embedded in the existing societal fabric, will reflect societies biases and prejudices. That can have a systemic effect on training, and in turn reinforce those biases and prejudices in individuals.


Power is really tricky to wield. Even just authority can have a corruptive influence on people.


And some people seek authority and power in the first place precisely because they are corrupt already. Being born with powers doesn't make people monsters any more than being born with say, money and influence does. Monsters are a very human construct. They are not born. They are crafted over time, by individual, institutional, and societal forces.


Our job as individuals is to strive to be good people, and to work to shape our institutions to be better train people who need a little more help finding their way.


Aristotle thought we needed philosopher kings to guide the unwashed masses of humanity.


I think we need to do better. We need instituitions that work to turn all the unwashed masses into philosopher kings. All we have right now is public schools. We need to do better.
 
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welian said:
Also, just want to say
Trump won 2016 in this timeline by feeding off of Rapture-based fear and hatred of Commonwealth'a corruption.
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2020, surely? Rapture was in 2018 ne c'est pas?


So that would have reflected poorly on Hilary's mid term approvals, leading to Trump 2020. Which explains why Aaron left the country by 2024 and only just now came back.


Surprised the country survived Trump, tbh. It must have taken heroic effort to pull back from the brink.


See what I did there? ...cause we're heroes? ...no? I-


Nevermind.
 
KingHink said:
How about how supers who are homeless with no substantial financial income to afford proper medication to keep their mental state in check are let loose without any attempts to ensuring they are microchipped with a limiter?
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I expect this is a very real problem, given how poorly funded vital federal programs can be. Look at the VA for instance and the rate of homelessness among veterans, not to mention suicide.


Given that 10% of people have the dominant gene (some sources say 5 to 10%) That would mean, in 2040, we are looking at close to 40 million individuals with A6G23 mutations in the US alone. Some of those people are going to fall through the cracks. (And then think about worldwide! 10 percent of 8 billion or so is going to be roughly 800 million supers!)


Puts things in perspective when you realize the Knights want to genocide ALL those people.


(And don't think they will stop with the dominants either. They'll come for the recessive genotypes after. By the time they're done, they will be almost nobody left.)
 
Thinking of supers committing suicide, anybody ever read Neil Gaiman's limited series about Dream's big sister Death?


One of those stories features a minor DCU character who wants to die but doesn't know how. Good story. Worth reading.
 
Aldur said:
Well, let me tell you, young man, that means your teachers suck at their jobs!
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Ooh. A personal insult! I feel I have lost face.


...too soon?


EDIT: sorry man, that felt wrong the moment I hit send
 
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I do have a query that popped into my head just as I was thinking of creative ways to hang myself.


Are people with 'mundane' superpowers like extensive aptitude with electronics and things without prior knowledge, super strong digestive tracts that can digest metal, can see in the dark really well, immune to every disease known and will be known to man...


Are they classified as supers, or are they left alone?
 
simj22 said:
I do have a query that popped into my head just as I was thinking of creative ways to hang myself.
Are people with 'mundane' superpowers like extensive aptitude with electronics and things without prior knowledge, super strong digestive tracts that can digest metal, can see in the dark really well, immune to every disease known and will be known to man...


Are they classified as supers, or are they left alone?
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Given the nature of bureaucracy, I am betting on a one size fits all program of mandatory training, but with individual tailoring by local instructors. Not allowed, but not policed. That is how public education works anyway...
 
Gus said:
Ooh. A personal insult! I feel I have lost face.
...too soon?


EDIT: sorry man, that felt wrong the moment I hit send
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I'm terrible, I chuckled.
 
simj22 said:
Are they classified as supers, or are they left alone?
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They are, by law, supers. Whether the ability is reported or even noticed... Well, the law can't protect people it doesn't know about.
 
simj22 said:
...as I was thinking of creative ways to hang myself.
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Just Reread this. Missed that the first time. You ok?


I gotta ask. I am ok with edgy humor, I just gotta ask...
 
welian said:
They are, by law, supers. Whether the ability is reported or even noticed... Well, the law can't protect people it doesn't know about.
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So technically, a technopath can be running around without ever having been charted down as a super?


That's...


Super.


@Gus at this point not being okay is the norm for me. Life being shit is a norm for me now. I submit to my fate of being too much of a pansy to go through with anything.


And plus, I'm too poor to even buy a sturdy rope.


I'll be here all week.
 
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