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No confusion, they both want free shit and want to distribute the wealth off the backs of the "rich." You can be middle class and still be considered rich because you have more than the other person. I talked to enough of these useful idiots that in their own twisted world ownership is an archaic institution. Really? Try and take my property and see how far you get.

Communists say they're for the working class but historically they've boned the working class pretty hard, even more so than capitalists. Historically corruption runs rampant in communistic countries, Hungarians and Romanians would attest to this fact. When you stifle a person's pursuit of freedom to succeed and to be better then it brings a conflict that not even a dynasty can maintain for any prolonged period of time. Also there is no such thing as a free lunch, that is economics 101. Someone somewhere is paying for that lunch.

In communist societies the working class is nothing more than a power base through manipulation and sometimes coercion to abide by the will of the party. Marx's theory was utopian and on paper could work if you change the human condition. As unrealistic as it was it did not stop someone like Lenin who was heavily influenced by Marx but the only big difference is he had to perpetuate a revolution or "worker's revolt" through means of violence like he did with the Bolsheviks in Russia. Granted he took advantage of the rather feudalistic condition that was Russia back then but Trotsky, Stalin and even your "reformed" communist like Khrushchev knew the only way to keep to the party going was perpetual revolution. Both Marx and Lenin were under no dissolution that the only way for communism to work was through bloodshed and the dissolution of personal freedoms.

You read too much pravda, comrade.

Once again, another word wall that can be resumed in this: Communism is bad, the end.

Link me to an actual document where it shows that the Stalin-prior Communism is barely any different from Stalinism (AKA, the form of Communism being used on some Dictatorship oriented countries like North Korea) because I highly doubt what you're saying.

As for your (yet again) idea that Communism tries to change the natural human behaviour... Isn't that pretty much every ideology created by mankind? I already stated this in another thread.
 
Once again, another word wall that can be resumed in this: Communism is bad, the end.

Link me to an actual document where it shows that the Stalin-prior Communism is barely any different from Stalinism (AKA, the form of Communism being used on some Dictatorship oriented countries like North Korea) because I highly doubt what you're saying.

I'll link you to a book that will give you some insight on what I'm talking about. Unless you're a total tool and write this off as "anti-communist propaganda" before you read the first chapter, notice that the works cites are actual accounts of victims who survived communism in the Cold War and not just Stalinism.

https://archive.org/details/TheBlackBookofCommunism10 Numero Uno source on why communism is more than plain bad, it is diabolical.
https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/policy/2016/02/13/utter-depravity-horror-communism/ Communism in Cambodia was pretty brutal but where was Stalin? I'm starting to see a pattern...
https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.c...st-risk-factor-leading-to-premature-death-is/ Had to throw this one in there because the first steps to establishing a communist regime is to disarm the people. So again it's not solely just Stalinism at play here, it's the only way you can establish a communist state is through coercion, manipulation and indoctrination.
https://freemarketstudies.wordpress...rors-of-communism-are-they-coming-to-america/
http://paradoxoftheday.com/differences-between-marxism-leninism-trotskyism-stalinism-and-maoism/
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/p/index.php?title=Stalinism
Even you were to take a Trotskyist stance it still boils down to a different form of totalitarianism. Stalin was totalitarian through a cult of personality but any other form of communism is totalitarian through the wills of the state. Of course you dismiss Stalinism because is makes communism look bad, fucking duh. My argument is communism in general.
Marxism = communism
Leninism = communism
Maoism = communism
Stalinism = communism
Trotskyism = communism.

It's all communism but in different flavors. Me thinks you're just going through a phase and you're only declaring you're a communist because it's hip, it's cool and it's what the cool kids are doing now, I get it. Peer pressure is a weird thing. But I'll say unto you as many of these regressive tools on the far-left like to say who do not conform to their way of thinking: "Educate yourself."
 
Random fact: when I wask fourteen, I made my fist pet rock--marker mouth, googly eyes and everything. I still have him, his name is Rocky. He's really good at learning tricks, too! Complicated tricks like sit, stay, don't move, be quiet...
 
I'll link you to a book that will give you some insight on what I'm talking about. Unless you're a total tool and write this off as "anti-communist propaganda" before you read the first chapter, notice that the works cites are actual accounts of victims who survived communism in the Cold War and not just Stalinism.

https://archive.org/details/TheBlackBookofCommunism10 Numero Uno source on why communism is more than plain bad, it is diabolical.
https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/policy/2016/02/13/utter-depravity-horror-communism/ Communism in Cambodia was pretty brutal but where was Stalin? I'm starting to see a pattern...
https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.c...st-risk-factor-leading-to-premature-death-is/ Had to throw this one in there because the first steps to establishing a communist regime is to disarm the people. So again it's not solely just Stalinism at play here, it's the only way you can establish a communist state is through coercion, manipulation and indoctrination.
https://freemarketstudies.wordpress...rors-of-communism-are-they-coming-to-america/
http://paradoxoftheday.com/differences-between-marxism-leninism-trotskyism-stalinism-and-maoism/
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/p/index.php?title=Stalinism
Even you were to take a Trotskyist stance it still boils down to a different form of totalitarianism. Stalin was totalitarian through a cult of personality but any other form of communism is totalitarian through the wills of the state. Of course you dismiss Stalinism because is makes communism look bad, fucking duh. My argument is communism in general.
Marxism = communism
Leninism = communism
Maoism = communism
Stalinism = communism
Trotskyism = communism.

It's all communism but in different flavors. Me thinks you're just going through a phase and you're only declaring you're a communist because it's hip, it's cool and it's what the cool kids are doing now, I get it. Peer pressure is a weird thing. But I'll say unto you as many of these regressive tools on the far-left like to say who do not conform to their way of thinking: "Educate yourself."

Before I read that I just wanna point out. Stalinism was still in effect during the Cold War.

Stalin might've not been alive but the laws he created and the way of operating was still present... And are you seriously bringing Mao into this? That guy was even worse than Stalin.
 
Before I read that I just wanna point out. Stalinism was still in effect during the Cold War.

Stalin might've not been alive but the laws he created and the way of operating was still present... And are you seriously bringing Mao into this? That guy was even worse than Stalin.

Hey you're the one defending communism here so you may as well include all variations of it. You cannot just exclude maoism and stalinism, they're all part of communism whether you like it or not. You cannot make them sacrosanct unless you want to admit that communism, in all forms, is fundamentally a totalitarian form of governance. It goes beyond a simple matter of economics and social classes, it is an all encompassing ideology that thrives on a perpetual state of revolt, total state control and the abolition of all private ownership.
 
Random fact: when I wask fourteen, I made my fist pet rock--marker mouth, googly eyes and everything. I still have him, his name is Rocky. He's really good at learning tricks, too! Complicated tricks like sit, stay, don't move, be quiet...
I see you didn't list Attack as one of it's many tricks, That's a pretty shitty pet rock if it can't even attack. My pet rock could attack by connecting itself with the muscles in my arm and forcing me to hurl it at victims/prey
 
Hey you're the one defending communism here so you may as well include all variations of it. You cannot just exclude maoism and stalinism, they're all part of communism whether you like it or not. You cannot make them sacrosanct unless you want to admit that communism, in all forms, is fundamentally a totalitarian form of governance. It goes beyond a simple matter of economics and social classes, it is an all encompassing ideology that thrives on a perpetual state of revolt, total state control and the abolition of all private ownership.

Yeah, but I support Marxism and it's idea. I don't really support what happened in the USSR, China and other communist countries that terribly failed. Marxism was never put into action because no country ever achieved it's true form of "Communism".
 
Yeah, but I support Marxism and it's idea. I don't really support what happened in the USSR, China and other communist countries that terribly failed. Marxism was never put into action because no country ever achieved it's true form of "Communism".

And let's hope they never will.
 
Stick with your capitalism, other people prefer equality.
Unequal sharing of blessings or equal sharing of miseries.

Anywho, I eat an insane amount of sugar. We're talking L levels here (Not really). I ate a movie candy box of gobstoppers and a movie candy box of nerds in like 4 hours (L could do better, but still)
 
Unequal sharing of blessings or equal sharing of miseries.

Anywho, I eat an insane amount of sugar. We're talking L levels here (Not really). I ate a movie candy box of gobstoppers and a movie candy box of nerds in like 4 hours (L could do better, but still)

Stop treating USSR's idea of "communism" like communism. The USSR was never a successful country due to it's unsuccessful ideology.

If you wanna use a good example of Communism then at least use Yugoslavia.
 
What was that? Oh, didn't they split apart and have a violent civil war that lasted for 3 or 4 years and had multiple acts of attempted genocide? Yeah, I'm pretty sure communism worked there. Outstanding example of a beacon of communism.

Look, fam, communism don't work because it doesn't have an ideal world to work in. It has to work in the one we live in.
 

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