[Nightmares of the Second Age] The Daily Scribe

It is getting late. Many of the gods you want to talk to will not be in their offices at this time. You've been running around for hours, after all.
 
Fair. So this'd be our last stop, unless we want to call on some of them more privately. So, anything we've forgotten, guys?
 
(Actually, Ghataru is unlikely to give the job to anyone who hasn't apprenticed under him for a few decades, if not a century. He wants to see a Solar in charge, but not just any Solar, and especially not some Essence 6 kiddy he doesn't know from Adam, er, the Clay Man. He's put too much work into his Bureau to see it run into the ground.)


How much do we know about why the Sidereals decided on genocide as their only option? Did Jubal tell us about the Prophecies?
 
Even if he didn't, it'd be reasonable to infer it. We know that the siddies are in the prediction business and are confident in their ability to predict the future. It seems logical to me that the reason for a split like this is opposing visions coming from an attempt to predict the future. Of course, I know that to be the case.
 
Sherwood said:
It is in the MoEP: The Infernals. I think its called the Green Iron Heart, a four dot artifact that raises up Strength and Stamina by 4, but lowers your Compassion by 1. I don't remember if it has any attunement cost to it, though.
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It also boosts Conviction by a dot, if I'm not mistaken.

MrSerious said:
Hmm it would be an extended project since I would essentially be designing a new one from scratch to work with Creation based materials. What book/page is this heart in btw? Not saying I couldn't do it but it may take some time and some exotic components :)
Also my post has been changed into an invitation to De :D
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IC, Storm would be less inclined to have it put in him without some kind of understanding of how it works - such as knowing that it won't serve as a way for Malfeas to assume control over him. Having a replica lacking Malfean taint would be much easier for him to accept replacing his heart.
 
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a Heart that only works obeying one of the Flaws of Invulnerability. Challenging Ryu to make one would motivate him to get those dots in Medicine.
 
Wait, but why would it have to obey a flaw of Invulnerability? Wouldn't that be a flaw of sorts in the device?


I guess I could see how it might be a benefit too, though. Maybe the flaw is specifically tied to the primary Virtue of the individual the heart is implanted in. It could replace the Virtue penalty (like the Green Iron Heart's loss of a Compassion dot), and instead of Conviction it would boost the individual's primary Virtue instead. It still seems like a pretty big flaw compared to the Green Iron Heart's compassion loss, though.
 
Being a mechanical construct, it would probably be tied to a specific Virtue. How does a mechanical heart know what your primary virtue is? I see Compassion as doing the most 'good', tying it to Conviction is just too broken and yes providing a one dot boost to Compassion. Having a Flaw of Invulnerability balances not subtracting a dot of Virtue.
 
Yeah, but while its mechanical it also has a metaphysical side. How do you explain a mechanical device strengthening one's Virtues and possessing a flaw that requires you to "do the most 'good' " for it to function? It's impossible. No matter what way you swing it, you have a meeting of technology and soul/Essence here, and that's a good thing since this is exactly what First Age tech is about at its core.


Derp, scratch that. I misread your post. Why does a mechanical device have to be tied to one Virtue alone? I feel like its just as plausible for it to be tied to Virtue in general, if you wanted to involve the Flaw effect.


From a mechanical standpoint, I might agree with you if we were operating under standard 2E rules - but we aren't. The Conviction flaw was errata'd to the following:

Flaw of Invulnerability: Conviction
(p. 194)


Replace the current Conviction-based Flaw of Invulnerability


with the following:


Conviction Flaw: Charms carrying this Flaw do not function


when the character has taken some action during the scene


that is contrary to her Motivation. If, during the scene, she


has acted against any Intimacy, or a Virtue she has rated at


3+, then Charms with this Flaw add a +3m surcharge to their


activation cost.
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Now, my reasoning regarding having it affect the Primary virtue (and Integrity, if we make it nearly equivalent to the Green Iron Heart) is because Exalted are defined by their Virtues, especially the Solars. Having the Heart tied to its owner's primary Virtue is both thematic and mechanically sound - it not only strengthens the Exalt in body, but in soul as well by reinforcing that which defines them.


For reference, here's the whole Green Iron Heart writeup:

GREEN IRON HEART
(ARTIFACT ••••)


A whirling clockwork masterpiece


of glittering vessels and gears,


this mechanism of radiant green


iron replaces the fleshly heart in


its owner’s chest. Its owner lacks a


heartbeat, and those who listen for


it may discern that the heart whirs


and ticks like a clock, its pace never


changing even in the thrall of desire, wrath or terror.


The heart’s boundless power adds four dots each to its


owner’s Strength and Stamina, while its unremitting drive


increases her Integrity by two dots and her Conviction by


one. Alas, a mechanical heart has little room for sentiment


in its metal chambers. Thus, the owner’s Compassion rating


drops by one. Attuning a green iron heart costs eight


motes of Essence.


Surgery: 30/5 hours/5/4
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When presented with a perfectly serviceable OOC thread, people would use it for all OOC discussions. One would be wrong.
 
I was poking fun at MHS and Leafar making OOC comments in the IC thread, but some words appear to have stayed in my mind and never reached the Internets.
 
Sherwood, if you don't mind terribly, Rose will use one of the remaining IMs to send a message to her mate. If he's alive, it should reach him, if he is not, the lose nothing.


Edit: She'll use it *before* Sash fills it back up.
 
It's coming along alright, I think xD . I'm having a bit of trouble with his back story, but then I'm never really good at those things. If you could look it over and see if there are some things I missed or screwed up, that would be good.


I'll probably be finished with the back story some time tonight though
 
New rule. We blind exalts are not allowed to go anywhere without an escort who has eyes in their head.
 
Arg, I really want to hunt down and punch the Fate out of some sidereal assassins, but with Invisible Castle down I dare not do so while relying on the less than ideal die roller on this site.
 
lol Just be glad that the Lions had better Perception rolls than you guys, or I'd be rolling damage on you.
 
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