Naruto Rebirth: Kakureyami OOC

[Stickdom]

Ok, that makes a considerable amount of sense. But rolling based on the highest person's score seems a little farfetched still. 72 x 3 is 216, while the next lowest down is 18 x 3 which is 52, that's quite a leap. Those numbers add up really fast, I'd at least suggest tuning the numbers down a bit to be reasonable. The 9-tails being ranked at 20 or even 25 with the other Jinchuuriki being 15-20 is still more reasonable than 72 anything, I wouldn't even put the Ten-Tails at that level with this scaling, maybe 50.


And what about having an elemental advantage, like water against fire? That should at least give the person with the advantage an extra dice to roll, and just drop the lowest number they roll.


I'm just saying that I know you aren't really that concerned with scaling, but if you made it this way, each person could roll their own power instead of the highest one. You could do it by 5s, lowest being 5, and get 5 more every rank up, that's still at least 15 point advantage you can roll if you are stronger than your opponent by even 1 rank.


Just suggestions, I happen to be rather skilled in tuning dice systems, and this way would be all the more reasonable for simple combat at this level :3


 

@Stickdom[/URL]

Hmmmm, I sense an alliance between Kakureyami and Rebellion through this similarity :3

 

[Pequeno Burraidh]

Possibly. Comes down to Wunan's decisions in the end, and how much she's willing to do/sacrifice to keep Dove as a friend/family member.


Cos, yea, may not be too obvious(totes is obvious) but Wunan doesn't like the ninja too much, and wasn't keen on Dove's mercy mission, even if she let her do it.

 

[Stickdom]

But that makes it all the more interesting :3

 

[Pequeno Burraidh]

INB4 everyone joins the Kakureyami and we take over the ninja world xD

 

[izayoiix]

Cut Kiyomi's hair and I cut you

 

[White Masquerade]

@Stickdom


Excellent. I love you. Give me all your questions. Please. Anything that looks odd, I will prove it's worth into the dirt, or change it if I find it really is bogus.


Below this point, is nerd talk between me and Stick. Please Ignore. We are doing this for you


For the rolling, It's all those involved roll off of the highest player's bonus. So for the 9-tails vs Maika:


--->9 tails rolls 3 dice with 216 faces + 72 bonus.


--->Maika rolls 3 dice with 216 faces + 2 bonus.


Maika is still able to pull out a win. You can already see this. Even if 9-tails rolls a 100. There is plenty of room for Maika to win. HOWEVER! The large bonus will make it difficult. Near impossible, if the 9-tails does really well.


Now the scaling. I know, the numbers may look completely random, but I actually did do scaling direct from research on events occuring in the manga. Most numbers adding up to equal each other is not a coincidence.

• 4 Jinchuriki = One 9-tails.
  
• Three dangerous individuals = 1 Jinchuriki,
  
• While two World-Class Individuals = 1 Jinchuriki.
  
• A skilled individual = 100 civilians.
  
• A skilled individual with a legendary sword = A dangerous individual
  

Everything lines up relative to each other. I was hoping to keep this all a secret, but you forced my hand >_>. Yes it would take 36 Maika's to be equal against the 9-tailed beast. On the bright side, it'd only take 9 to be equal to a regular one.


For the elemental advantages, psh. Pretty much every character at this point in the RP, has 3-4 chakra natures. There are next to zero elemental advantages this far along. Also, abilities where they don't even need to use chakra natures to win (Sharingan, Rinnegan, Dove + Kam, Taijutsu boosts). Plus, even if there is some kind of elemental advantage, I leave it to the chance in dice to handle. A Fire-user vs. Water-user, is not an instant win for the water user. It can come down to a battle of wits, ninja tools, and positioning. I leave that for the player to fill in if the match goes their way.


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No one is cutting Kiyomi's hair O.o


 
Oh my gosh. We only have 16 pages of RP, I dunno where I left off on the summary =/

 

[Stickdom]

@Stickdom[/URL]
Excellent. I love you. Give me all your questions. Please. Anything that looks odd, I will prove it's worth into the dirt, or change it if I find it really is bogus.


Below this point, is nerd talk between me and Stick. Please Ignore. We are doing this for you


For the rolling, It's all those involved roll off of the highest player's bonus. So for the 9-tails vs Maika:


--->9 tails rolls 3 dice with 216 faces + 72 bonus.


--->Maika rolls 3 dice with 216 faces + 2 bonus.


Maika is still able to pull out a win. You can already see this. Even if 9-tails rolls a 100. There is plenty of room for Maika to win. HOWEVER! The large bonus will make it difficult. Near impossible, if the 9-tails does really well.


Now the scaling. I know, the numbers may look completely random, but I actually did do scaling direct from research on events occuring in the manga. Most numbers adding up to equal each other is not a coincidence.

• 4 Jinchuriki = One 9-tails.
  
• Three dangerous individuals = 1 Jinchuriki,
  
• While two World-Class Individuals = 1 Jinchuriki.
  
• A skilled individual = 100 civilians.
  
• A skilled individual with a legendary sword = A dangerous individual
  

Everything lines up relative to each other. I was hoping to keep this all a secret, but you forced my hand >_>. Yes it would take 36 Maika's to be equal against the 9-tailed beast. On the bright side, it'd only take 9 to be equal to a regular one.


For the elemental advantages, psh. Pretty much every character at this point in the RP, has 3-4 chakra natures. There are next to zero elemental advantages this far along. Also, abilities where they don't even need to use chakra natures to win (Sharingan, Rinnegan, Dove + Kam, Taijutsu boosts). Plus, even if there is some kind of elemental advantage, I leave it to the chance in dice to handle. A Fire-user vs. Water-user, is not an instant win for the water user. It can come down to a battle of wits, ninja tools, and positioning. I leave that for the player to fill in if the match goes their way.


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No on is cutting Kiyomi's hair O.o

That all makes sense, including why you scaled them each off of each other (I knew that's how you had the rank numbers set up, btw, I was just holding my tongue ;P ), I'm just saying that it's a lot of complicated and tedious math for an RP that hasn't needed it before and would be just fine with a simpler system xD I'm not gonna say we won't use your way, because you're going to anyway, I was just suggesting making it simple so we didn't have to roll outrageous numbers and do crazy crap like adding 72 to each roll


 
Plus, as I just found out, the dice roller only rolls up to 100 anyway, so 216 is out of the question altogether ;P


 


[QUOTE="White Masquerade]
Oh my gosh. We only have 16 pages of RP, I dunno where I left off on the summary =/

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Dwiz changed the number of posts per page from 10 to 25, which changed the page numbers since he squeezed 250% more posts per page

 

[White Masquerade]

That all makes sense, including why you scaled them each off of each other (I knew that's how you had the rank numbers set up, btw, I was just holding my tongue ;P ), I'm just saying that it's a lot of complicated and tedious math for an RP that hasn't needed it before and would be just fine with a simpler system xD I'm not gonna say we won't use your way, because you're going to anyway, I was just suggesting making it simple so we didn't have to roll outrageous numbers and do crazy crap like adding 72 to each roll
 
Plus, as I just found out, the dice roller only rolls up to 100 anyway, so 216 is out of the question altogether ;P


 



Dwiz changed the number of posts per page from 10 to 25, which changed the page numbers since he squeezed 250% more posts per page

You're lying about the numbers! Hold on! And no, lol. the 72 is Luce's problem. If there is not a peaceful resolution to a situation. 1 sec

 

[Stickdom]

Totally new suggestion. Instead of multiplying each number by 3 for the roll, instead divide them by three to get your bonus, and just roll a d50 or d100 for all the rolls? You'd have to change all the 2's to 3's, for a bonus of 1, but that tones ol' Nine-tails down to, like, 24, which is still stupid overpowered, but it's better than having to change the dice you roll every fight.

 

[White Masquerade]

Aw what a bummer. Back to the drawing board. Thank you Stick! Give me a few

 

[Stickdom]

[QUOTE="White Masquerade]You're lying about the numbers!

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You wish I am pretty decent at math and logistics, you know, and it didn't take long to figure out just how many "normal" Jinchuuriki went into Nine-Tails' 72, the rest was easy after that, simple pattern recognition :3


 
Here, I'll even test my theory to show you how it works, let's assume d100s


Maika with a 3 gives him... +1


Ninetails with a 72 gives him... +24 (stupid fox-bastard)


[dice]11254[/dice]


[dice]11255[/dice]


 
Well what do you know? Maika almost won (except for the nine tails being all op cheating-like), but it's an example that it works... You may have made some characters outrageously overpowered compared to others, but the system is sound

 

[izayoiix]

I love how we dropped to 400 pages in here xD

 

[White Masquerade]

Excellent. I'll update the summary while I think things over between the two methods. I already solved the issue of the site's thingie not going up to 216, by using an off-site random number generator. It's working beautifully and has the same function.


Your Method:


Con -- It has division (Bleh!!!!!)


Con -- It would be a nightmare for people that have +2 bonus. In all reality, it'd still be easy, but decimal points is a turn-off


Pro -- It is on site/lets people work at their own pace


Pro -- Less work for me


My Method:


Con -- More work for me as I'd have to do the rolls myself and pass them along


Con -- May make the RP slower waiting on me for rolls (is that really a bad thing though?)


Pro -- Less work for Rpers


Pro -- I can better moderate issues with it


@Stickdom


Also, I liked the 1/3rd advantage the highest ninja had. Thoughts, Stick? I'm loving the energy. This doesn't mean I'll be friendly to Maika IC though.




@Arkytior


I totally put @infinities Lover and got nothing =(


Arky?


Infi?


Your account is so beautiful but...I feel like I have to get to know you all over again

 

[Pequeno Burraidh]

So straight, up, if anyone plans on having people show up to Yugakure soon, holler at me, cos I'm about to take this rope I've got(Them only having two days to leave) and run with it, which means the shite is about to get straight up real, right?

 

[Duwang]

I think it'd be easier just to remain free-forming everything. Of course, I only say that because my dude's got rank 0 and I don't have any hope of winning when numbers are actually involved, at least at a glance. It's like you're purposely keeping the weaker people (my character) down for some reason.

 

[White Masquerade]

@The Suspicious Eye


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Did...did Chanda just leave Maika?? Omg. What about my ship?? Eye? What's going on?? How could you do this to me? To us??? I took a peek at your post and wow wow wow wow, I am totally distraught, curious and pumped. Guys please don't do this to me!


Stick?
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[izayoiix]

@Arkytior[/URL]
I totally put @infinities Lover and got nothing =(


Arky?


Infi?


Your account is so beautiful but...I feel like I have to get to know you all over again

Lol I'm sorry Kin xD


It'll be okay. Feel free to keep calling me Infi

 

[White Masquerade]

[QUOTE="Veirrianna Valentine]So straight, up, if anyone plans on having people show up to Yugakure soon, holler at me, cos I'm about to take this rope I've got(Them only having two days to leave) and run with it, which means the shite is about to get straight up real, right?

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Yessss! I am almost to Yugakure!

I think it'd be easier just to remain free-forming everything. Of course, I only say that because my dude's got rank 0 and I don't have any hope of winning when numbers are actually involved, at least at a glance. It's like you're purposely keeping the weaker people (my character) down for some reason.

Lol. Aw Duwang. No, lol. I have no intent on singling out anyone's character! Don't think so! At it's heart, this RP is still a Free-form. I just set that up in case a dispute comes along that can't be solved. From here to the end, if everyone is able to get along, there will be no need to use it.

 

[Duwang]

Because even if I roll trips and get the maximum score, it'd be multiplied by my character's skill level- which is 0.

 

[White Masquerade]

Because even if I roll trips and get the maximum score, it'd be multiplied by my character's skill level- which is 0.

Ah gotcha. I may need to update the explanation.


That would be the case if two people of no rank fought each other. Each person rolls the faces of the highest bonus x 3


Say it's Shion (0) vs Nana (6)


Shion would roll 3 dice with 18 faces.


Nana would roll 3 dice with 18 faces.


As opposed to


Shion (0) vs Roku (0)


Where both characters wouldn't roll anything. It'd be a shameful, unskilled, and inexperienced tie xD


But, let's just hope it doesn't get to this point

 

[Duwang]

But it's never stated that my character was inexperienced; just that he relied more on his tools as opposed to ninja-magic.

 

[White Masquerade]

But it's never stated that my character was inexperienced; just that he relied more on his tools as opposed to ninja-magic.

This is true! No worries! I might as well say it now. At the end of the Time-Skip, I am readjusting the ranks

 

[Stickdom]

@The Suspicious Eye[/URL]
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Did...did Chanda just leave Maika?? Omg. What about my ship?? Eye? What's going on?? How could you do this to me? To us??? I took a peek at your post and wow wow wow wow, I am totally distraught, curious and pumped. Guys please don't do this to me!


Stick?
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Actually, White, this is probably the best thing for them, they need a little distance right now, they might actually like each other more for it later on ;3 don't sink your own ship yet, this is why your pairing don't work out, you try to force it.


P.s. Maika totally will think that Chanda leaving him that message is the cutest thing and understand why she left, so don't worry


 


[QUOTE="White Masquerade]Ah gotcha. I may need to update the explanation.
That would be the case if two people of no rank fought each other. Each person rolls the faces of the highest bonus x 3


Say it's Shion (0) vs Nana (6)


Shion would roll 3 dice with 18 faces.


Nana would roll 3 dice with 18 faces.


As opposed to


Shion (0) vs Roku (0)


Where both characters wouldn't roll anything. It'd be a shameful, unskilled, and inexperienced tie xD


But, let's just hope it doesn't get to this point

[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure this another reason why your method of rolling dice is way complicated, you have to change the amount of dice for each fight it would be a lot easier for everyone involved if there was just one die to roll and each roll gets a bonus based on the person, rather than the other way around of changing the dice to the person and then adding flat bonuses (which still changes from person to person). I know you had a reason for how you set everything up that way, but it's still impractical and confusing and really kind of unnecessary all the way around, at least in my opinion... xD

 

[White Masquerade]

@Stickdom


True, true. I'm leaning more towards yours actually. That limit the site has on faces is a huge killer. Your example worked like a charm. It just comes down to D50, D75, or D100. Excellent chat, Stick


As for Maika and Chanda...


@clarinetti A Maika slot just opened up I don't know if he's spicy enough to warm up Akane, but it's worth a shot =). Maika so far has some endearing qualities

 

[Duwang]

Never in my life have I seen 75 sided dice.