multi-types attempt

[Torak]

I'm working on a pretty complex chronicle involving almost all types of Exalted, be it PC or NPC. Thing is, not only do they come from different places (obviously :roll: ), they come from different worlds. I thought : If 5 Deathlords (or is it 3 ? ) managed to slay 9/10 of creation's population, 13 of them could come together to do something as fucked up as this... They found a way to divide creation in "sub-creations". In each of these alternate realities/ sub-creations/ Elsewhere( s ),  only one type of exalted exists.  


So there's :


A Solar-world: looks pretty much like the glorious First Age (happy happy joy joy) where mighty and virtuous solars fight what little evil manages to exist...


A lunar-world : where the most "civilized" cities (if any...) all look like Rathess..


A DB-world: which I picture a little like USA... Proud and with some imperfections...


And so on. Autochtonia wouldn't be affected by this Deathlord "spell" since they already are "Elsewhere". And Siddies wouldn't be aware of it since they would live in their own world and couldn't have predicted it since they (the Deathlords) are in the Underworld...


Why did the DL do that : because they figured it would be easier to fight, kill and destroy everything and everyone if they were all divided :twisted: . Furthermore, they would use the Wyld and the fair folks as their tools: Letting them wreak havoc then slowly take control of the weakened peoples (I mean just look at the abyssal charms against the wyld :shock: )


Of course, this plan couldn't be perfect, otherwise there wouldn't be much point in playing this chronicle.


I've got four players:


1 Dawn-caste solar


1 Naga Lunar (were-snake)


1 Soultsteel alchemical


1 Earth aspect DB


Each of them realizes that they are not completely alone in their respective worlds (except the alchemical, obviously). They find traces of some other types of Exalted. Maybe even abyssals...


All this leading to: the characters eventually meet in one of the worls to kick some undead-butt...


Will they try to merge the worlds back into one? Or will they want to stay divided but still fight together to push back the abyssal threat each in their own world? (that is pretty much up to the players though...)


I'm not too sure about some details :


Is there a Scarlett Empress?


Are there 5 Lunar castes?


How do they travel from one dimension to another?


Are they dimensions, planes, worlds, timelines, other faces on a cubic creation...?


In the original setting, is there more than one way from Autochtonia into Creation?  Where are they?


Should there be one for each world? More?


Any feedback and/or suggestion is very welcome?


-T

 

[Torak]

Errrr


Is my idea THAT lame...?  


-T

 

[X-Salted]

2 questions. How did the deathlords come to terms with each other and decide to device a way to divide creation? Especially since they don't trust each other anymore. And what about the mortals? do they have their own world or are they all scattered in all of the other worlds?


And no, I don't think your idea is lame. I think you just need to elaborate it a bit more.

 

[Ker'ion]

Is there a Scarlett Empress?


She's in Malfaes for trying to live forever and become omnipotent.


Are there 5 Lunar castes?


Up to you, but I'd keep an eye on the 1st Age Game Thread for more information on the extra Castes.


How do they travel from one dimension to another?


The gates to Yu-Shan have been altered to jump between the worlds, blocking off the realms of creation from Yu-Shan.  Only the calibration gate can reach Yu-Shan in this altered creation.


Are they dimensions, planes, worlds, timelines, other faces on a cubic creation...?


I'd go with worlds, as they would be seperated by the Wyld and the PCs might wander into each other treking around.  dimensions or planes, since they are basically the same, would work, but present their own difficulties.


In the original setting, is there more than one way from Autochtonia into Creation?  Where are they?


The Gate of 8 Divinities in Autocthon is it's only exit to creation.  This enters creation in the south in Ot's head (see the Creation Map, version 7.1C somewhere on this site, I believe in the Redux Project Board)


Should there be one for each world? More?


I'd only put in one functional doorway to Autocthon.


There could be a stonehenge style monument in each world that, when opened with the spell 'Summoning the Heavenly Portal' would instead, open into Autocthon instead.

 

[Jakk Bey]

Because I seem to excell at taking a hammer to people's ideas, I'll give it a whack.


What if the "worlds" aren't so much seperated, but the Creation is shivered and shattered?  Each "nation" or "world" is instead a floating island--OK, a floating continent, complete with a local population of mortals to lord over.


Say a large bell was constructed of the 5MM, a massive thing made on a powerful Manse, and connected to several other Manses to power the thing.  The Deathlords were forced to sacrifice one of their own to "ring" the thing, but once rung, the bell resonates throughout the Creation, shattering it, and each Exalt resonates with a portion of the frequency, and is shifted to an island that coresponds to their type.  The resonance doesn't end with just shifting them, but also shifting the reality a bit, each island "ringing" with the sort of islet that suits the Exalts best--a resonance with their hopes and dreams--which plays into my theme that folks should get what they want, good and hard.


Now then, there are gates to each of the other islands, but they require sacrifice to open.  A single Exalt must die to open the sucker, or a few hundred Mortals, or the sacrifice of an Essence 4 or 5 Spirit or God.  The sacrifice don't neccessarily have to consent, but if you really want to be a bastard, the sacrifices have to be willing...


Yu Shan is cut off from the Creation by the Shattering.  Exit those Meddling kids...and Sidereals trapped in the Creation in their own worldlet...


The alternate to this, is to build Airships to travel between the islands, but just as the world has been shattered and changed, so has the wildlife, and there are vast Behemoths that ply the skies, as well as all sorts of other aerial critters, and some islands in the sky that don't have Exalts, but other things that perhaps the Primordials locked away, perhaps for a good reason...


Now you have not only a vast Meridian-esque setting, with Exalts galore, but also Airship fun, and exploration of all sorts of floating islands, as well as the coming Deathlords' Storm.


The Deathlords, now that they've got the Exalts seperated, can now put into effect the second part of their clever plan, the creation of a vast Death Storm--essentially their armies are now airborne, wafted aloft by foul magics, cloaked with storm, rain, and thunder, and the Storm sweeps across the Shattered World, and each island that it passes over is scoured of all life, and the Storm is fueled by those deaths, grows ever larger.


The fun is, that the Exalts may not realize this. The Creation has drifted, wider, mixing in bits of Wyld into the fun as well.  The Rakasha now have better sway to enter the Creation, and do bad things to it as well, and their Ill Winds are contesting the Death Storm, and the two are locked in a sort of war of currents, which is why the current form the Creation has settled a bit--say a few hundred years, post Shattering.


The Gates ot Yu-Shan may still work, but now with the resonance from the Death Lords' bell still reverberating, only dematerialized critters can pass through them.  Fine for Gods and Spirits, and messengers from the Gods, and fine for Essence flow, and a constant diet of prayers and Ambrosia, but the Sidereals are pretty much trapped in Yu-Shan, or outside of it.


Of course, the Web of Fate is billions of kinds of fucked up, and the Pattern Spiders are ready to have a conniption, and are so unruly, that the Sidereals can't Craft Fate until the current crisis is alleviated.


Alternatively, rather than having floating islands--which I think is a better plot hook and great theme to play with--you can have each dimension resonate from the ringing of that vast bell, and each dimension is still ringing with it.  Travel to and from each nearby dimension is only available to those who can "tune" themselve to pass through the screwed up Gates, but now those Gates can be tuned to open not just to Yu-Shan, but to any of the other dimensions as well, if you can "tune" your Essence right: Custom Charm City here we come, and suitable quests to figure it out.  Magic mirrors or other odd communications devices may be like-wise tuned, and perhaps an accident, or a God or two can intervene to allow communication between folks between dimensions.


That's off the top of my head.  It's a neat concept for a setting.  Run with it and let us know how you build this puppy.

 

[Persell]

Actually, when I read this, I envisioned something more from The Death-Gate Cycle.


The Sidereals gathered themselves for the Great Prophecy and saw the three possibilities for Creation:


Allow things to go on as they have been and allow the Solars to destroy themselves.


Try to rehabilitate the Solars which would delay the destruction but not prevent it.


Destroy and imprison the Solars and live in a world that was lesser but stable.


The Sidereals knew that they could not allow Creation to be destroyed.  Still, they could not decide which path to take.  For a century they debated, dividing up into two camps: The Gold Faction who believed that the Solars could be rehabilitated and the Bronze Faction who was determined to keep Creation alive, even if it be a lesser Creation.  The tumult between these two beliefs threatened to cause a war among the Sidereals in a time when solidarity was most needed.


And so solidarity was sought and a compromise was found.


The Sidereals would do both.


The Incarna were too caught up in the Games of Divinity to stop them.  The Sidereals connived with the Dragon-Blooded to slaughter the Solars to trap their essences in prisons of Jade.  This prison was taken to Yu-Shan, as well as a host of Dragon-Blooded and mortal servants, so that the greatest thing ever done in Creation could be worked.


Its sundering.


The Sidereals dissassembled the Loom of Fate, making it separate pieces.  This tore Creation into several parts, the Elemental Poles now becoming worlds within themselves, each separated by an impassable swath of the Wyld.  This was done so that, should the Solars become far too corrupt, Creation would be much more difficult for them to control since it was separated into different parts.


Mela, the Realm of Air, a place where the only landmasses float freely of each other and one can fall for an eternity.


Pasiap, the Realm of Earth, a place of cold harsh stone and the only warmth comes from underground streams of lava and the air is nearly too fatal to breathe.


Hesieh, the Realm of Fire, a bright burning desert where the sun only fades when sandstorms the size of the horizon blots it out and the only cities that exist are those burrowed in the few mountains that stand against the scouring of the blasted dunes.


Daana'd, the Realm of Water, a world encased by ice and the water can be breathed but is warmed only by the floating seasun that drifts every few centuries from the islands, forcing the inahabitants to migrate with it.


Sextes Jylis, a world where four suns burn ever brightly, causing the trees of forests and jungles to grow so tall so thick that it is the only land that is ever known and soil is myth.


In these Realms the Sidereals propped up the Dragon-Blooded as rulers over the mortals and gods who labored to keep them running.  Besides demons and undead, the only other enemies they faced were the Lunars, who were trapped on Creation when it was torn which forced them to survive against the forces of the Wyld that separated the Realms.  When the Realms were formed, creation called to creation and the Lunars found themselves on the edge of the Realms but warped.


Although the Realms were separated by an imapassable distance of Deep Wyld between them, the Sidereals discovered that gateways could be created on the edges of the Underworld, for the sundering caused the Underworld to be spread thin to cover that unimaginable distance of all the Realms rather than cause each Realm to have its own Underworld.  This allowed them to create Death Gates, places where the Wyld and the Underworld combined that allowed the essence of one realm to be focus and channeled to the other realms.  In this way, a connection could still be maintained by all the realms to support each other.


Connected but separated from the realms is the Labrinyth.  It was created from the River Province and was set aside and transformed into a prison for the Solar essences.  The Sidereals fashioned it into a land that would constantly war with the Solars to humble them from the great hubris that haunted and corrupted them.  The Labrinyth would trap the Solars and if they became able to set aside their foibles they would prove themselves able to rule Creation wisely.


If they managed to overcome their weaknesses to conquer the Labrinyth, it would send them to the Nexus, a city at the center of the Labrinyth that takes millenia to be reached.  Nexus has its own Death Gate that connects to all the other realms to provide the Labrinyth with all that it needs to humble the Solars.  If the Solars could reach the city, they may be able to claim their title once again.


In fact, they just have.


Now they must explore the realms and reassert themselves as the rightful rulers that they are.  Unfortunately, they have been forgotten by the Dragon-Blooded and dismissed by the Sidereals as they fight to keep the different pieces of the Loom running smoothly and may not want to give up the reins that they have taken from the Chosen of the Unconquered Sun.  They must also deal with the Lunars who were once their mates and have harried the civilizations of the realms because of their wyld-tainted madness.  Combine this with the fact that some of the Solars who, while in the Labrinyth, pledged themselves to the Neverborn to seek an escape from the eternal torment and with the power of the Abyss venture out to destroy this caricature of Creation that should not be.

 

[Torak]

2 questions. How did the deathlords come to terms with each other and decide to device a way to divide creation? Especially since they don't trust each other anymore. And what about the mortals? do they have their own world or are they all scattered in all of the other worlds?

I was thiniking that they could make an exception for the sake of the Void, the Yozis and the Neverborn... Besides, since they managed to split creation , they can all go to and rule their own piece. They might not trust each other, but through this major fuckup in creation, they wouldn't have to compete either... And yes, mortals are scattered throughout the worlds mostly according to their origin.

a large bell was constructed of the 5MM, a massive thing made on a powerful Manse, and connected to several other Manses to power the thing.  The Deathlords were forced to sacrifice one of their own to "ring" the thing, but once rung, the bell resonates throughout the Creation, shattering it, and each Exalt resonates with a portion of the frequency, and is shifted to an island that coresponds to their type.

Kick ass idea! I'd really want to take it as it is (and i eventually will) , but it would be to major a change of what's done already... So to make it "fit"  I'd say that these islands of the same "essence" would attract each other, thus making almost pure continents (emphasis on "almost"). Thanks for the tip, Jakk.

Connected but separated from the realms is the Labrinyth.

Thanks for mentionning that, aloha. I like yout idea, though it's not quite what I had in mind. Reminds me...: Since it's separate worlds, i'm guessing it should be separate underworlds as well, where only one deathlord would rule... Y'all agree?
Thanks or your time, everyone! I really appreciate it. And Ker'ion, thanks for your help and the maps, i found them through google on some germany-based website.


Rollenspiele i think : http://hd42.de/rpg_exalted_maps.html

 

[Ker'ion]

Since it's separate worlds, i'm guessing it should be separate underworlds as well, where only one deathlord would rule... Y'all agree?

13 DL's, 5 sections of reality.


Too many to each get a piece.  I'd say lesser wars over the bits of creation.

And Ker'ion, thanks for your help and the maps,...

Yer welky!

 

[Jakk Bey]

Well, that depends on how you want to split things up.


Dragon Bloods.


Lunars.


Solars.


Abyssals.


Sidereals.


Dragon Kings.


Mountain Folk.


Dark Brood.


Behemoths--Monster Island! Monster Island! Monster Island!


Rakasha--Yes, they finally get their own uncontested piece of the pie.


Half Castes.


Things That Man Was Not Meant to Know--just riff and make up some messed up things that haven't seen the light of day for Long, Long, Long time, and now they get their own "world" to finally play with.


And if you kill off a Deathlord to make the thing work, then your work is simplified even.

 

[Ker'ion]

As the Abyssals work for the DLs, wouldn't they go with their own seperate DL instead of being locked into their own reality?

 

[Haku1]

An interesting idea... very interesting... I might steal it... yes, I might...

 

[Torak]

I was thinking of dividing creation acccording to the exalted-types. Which would allow the characters to meet not only exalts in their own world but also spirits and indeed...Dragon kings... I was planing on putting one of these portals/gateways between "Solaris" and "Lunaris" in Rathess since I have  solar-to-be and a were-snake...Thought their meeting their would be a cool scene visually...


Besides, the fact that DLs STILL have to fight over their turf "could" give the characters an edge of some sort...

 

[Solfi]

Raksha--Yes, they finally get their own uncontested piece of the pie.

... *Supposedly*, they'd mean to convert that piece of the pie back into Wyld. But then again, not only would their Unshaped cousins perhaps have a few choice words to say to them should they return to Chaos, but their very natures have already been altered by Creation.


That could make for some interesting Borgstromian Metaphor-action. Raksha vs. Unshaped, as the Fair Folk of Creation (ironically) would have to defend their "piece of the pie" against their own ilk...

 

[Jakk Bey]

Solfi--Pretty mych my thoughts on how this idea could turn out.  


This has some solid potential.  Kudos to Torak...

 

[Torak]

ops: Why Thanks  

 

[Solfi]

yeah, I agree... even makes me want to give another go at wading through said metaphors of the FF fatsplat again.

 

[Torak]

Public announcement...


To my great shame, I never managed to play this game... And I won't waste you precious time giving you guys lame excuses...


But..


I still have some questions for you, should I ever play it after all...


1-How would the celestial bureaucracy react to this? would it simply cease to exist?


2-How would you plugg Jakk's modernis setting in mine?

 

[Sherwood]

First, let me say that this is an facinating idea, along with the suggestions from the assorted posters.  Seeing things like this make me wish to be running a dozen different games using the ideas I see from this site.


Let me add my two cents into this.


I think that the Abyssals would not get their own chunk of Creation, but instead stick to the roll of right hand man (or woman) of their Deathlord, furthering their aims to conquer and destroy the islands of Creation now made.  A possible reason why they teamed up for this could be a greater threat from Somewhere Else That Threatened Them All (insert scarey music) and the only chance to survive was to fracture the world.


I also believe that the Underworld would be affected by this too.  Its geography is based on Creation, and a disaster large enough to shatter the planet would probably be reflected in the underworld.  A plot idea is, what do the Malfians do now that Creation is screwed?  An army of pissed off demons pouring out would not be much fun for anyone (except for the storyteller)


What would the split do to Yu-Shan?  It is a mirror of the Blessed Isle in size and shape.  Would it maintain its integrity, or would pieces of it break off to gravitate to the various worlds those gods hold sway over?  In any case, the Celestials would be in major panic mode.  This might be enough to break the grip of the Games of Divinity (for a short time) and get the US, Luna, Gaia, and the rest off their asses to do something.  Hey, what would happen to Gaia?  I can see Luna going nuts trying to save her.  Perhaps going to Autochton to beg for his help.  Man, there is sooo much that can be done with this!

 

[Torak]

First, let me say that this is an facinating idea, along with the suggestions from the assorted posters.

Thanks dude! Glad to hear that!

 Man, there is sooo much that can be done with this!

Actually, that was part of the problem...  I just didn't know where to start!


As to what would happen to Gaia, that's another thing I hadn't figured out... There was tis thread about Gaia's component souls... could each of these souls become one of the dimensions as we "described" them (if briefly)?