More 2nd Edition

[Ker'ion]

ADDEDNDUM TO THE ABOVE POST:

You see, I admit Exalted really needed a revision (specially to deal with combat speed), but I'm bothered by the fact that, by Brazil's standarts (where I live), i've spent an INSANE AMOUNT OF MONEY buying all the fatsplats and more than a couple softcover supplements.

THIS WAS PART OF HQ-Man's POST


Try finding power combat rules for older things, like Flying Silver Dream.


THIS WAS PART OF Quicksilver Cheetah's POST


Put the correct names on the sections of posts you quote, would ya. :evil:

 

[Persell]

I just got Exalted comic #2. In the game material section they reveal that DB's have excellencies as well, what the differences in costs/affects are is anyones guess though.

 

[Flagg]

It was my impression from that article that ALL Exalts will have excellencies.


-S

 

[Persell]

Sadly, the character only has First Excellencies. I'm going to assume the dice-adder limit is Ability + Specialty.


Dammit, too little information.

It was my impression from that article that ALL Exalts will have excellencies.

Well, all Exalts have dice-adders in 1st ed. That's an Excellency. I imagine QC was noting that certain impressions (yours, for example) have received supporting evidence in #2.

 

[Flagg]

I really don't understand how anybody could be angry that WW is making a 2nd Edition, regardless of what changes it involves.


So what if you spent a lot of money on 1st Ed books? Nobody's taking those from you. Nobody's forcing you to spend more money on the new ones, and quit honestly, you should have seen it coming anyway.


-S

 

[Persell]

While I agree that nobody should be mad, and should have certainly expected what has happened, my has always been that changes made to improve the game simply won't.


That having been said, it certainly appears that John Chambers has all the drive that Geoff did.


I guess ultimtely I'll have to hold my final vote for when I actually read it. Damn I wish they'd not have pushed the release date back.

 

[Silence In Daylight]

I really don't understand how anybody could be angry that WW is making a 2nd Edition, regardless of what changes it involves.

 Considering that the alternative is discontinuing the line (hello, Wraith, Mummy, Demon, Changeling, and many others), a 2nd Edition doesn't seem that bad, does it?


 What I'm really curious about is what they'll come up with to replace the Caste/Aspect books in 2nd Edition, as I recall that WW was moving away from them due to less-than-robust sales. The thought of a d20-sendup along the lines of 'The Complete [insert Exalt type]' (itself the size of the hardsplat) as a supplement to the actual hardsplat has potential, but...

 

[Persell]

Well...


In first addition lets take DB as an example. We have the DB book, and then 5 aspect expounding on the concepts of the DBs. this can be broken down into 2 groups of material:


1) Information on the Realm


2) Information on DB.


From what we've already seen about 2nd ed, it sounds like that's exactly what they're gonna do with one book about the Realm, and then one book about DB.

 

[Flagg]

From what we've already seen about 2nd ed' date=' it sounds like that's exactly what they're gonna do with one book about the Realm, and then one book about DB.[/quote']
Though hopefully in reverse order.


-S

 

[Zaramis]

I rather know more about the Realm than the DB's ;P But hey. I love the Aspect books, I bought them all.. they really give a realistic approach and insight into the world of the dynasts.

 

[Kajata]

I can see why people would be irate with WW bringing out a new book.  Yes, they're not being forced to buy the new books, but, for instance, if they wanna be able to participate in up-to-date rules based discussions on these forums and forums like this, they're gonna need to know the new rules, I assume.  And we all know, new books are shiny, and we want to buy them because we have that strange defect in our brain that says "look a new book" and blocks out our good-sense glands  :wink:


Then again, it's true, we don't have to buy them.


I for one am going to, with the intention of continuing to use Exalted V1 unless I find V2 to be far superior.


I really enjoy the way the exalted rules work now.  If I was to offer an alternative to V2, it'd just be for WW to re-release the old books sans-errata and neaten them up a bit and update charms and the like to make flaws that have been found in the mechanics work without house-ruling.  And then get on with the bloody metaplot.


As for about social roles: I have a limited group in terms of raw RPing skill.  One of them is very good and basically has a character who rules at combat and does little else except pray to the UC, but also is probably the most social character due to the fact that his player is confident enough to speak out in group.  Our Eclipse, who is "traditional" Eclipse (we like to play to stereotypes ), whilst having very high socialise and any number of other social abilities, is generally unable to make a stand-up argument against a post, so we normally end up sighing audiably and just telling him to roll the dice, which of course, reduces socialisation within our group to something like 20% of our total game time, which is really no good.

 

[Flagg]

I can see why people would be irate with WW bringing out a new book.

I guess I can't say that someone's feelings are wrong, but I will say that if the Second Edition came as a surprise to any of you, then you're  naive and foolish. You should have known from the first book you purchased that if people liked the game, there would be an inevitable 2nd Edition.


Hell, if Exalted stays popular for a few more years, there's going to be a 3rd Ed, I guarantee it.


-S

 

[Flagg]

Our Eclipse, who is "traditional" Eclipse (we like to play to stereotypes ), whilst having very high socialise and any number of other social abilities, is generally unable to make a stand-up argument against a post, so we normally end up sighing audiably and just telling him to roll the dice, which of course, reduces socialisation within our group to something like 20% of our total game time, which is really no good.

I often wonder why so many people with no wit or cleverness at all want to play social characters. I seriously do not understand it.


-S

 

[Persell]

Escape-ism


Because we all want to be better than we are.

 

[Flagg]

Escape-ism
Because we all want to be better than we are.

I would think that playing a character so far out of one's depth would make one feel worse. Then again, I'm not an idiot, so perhaps I lack the proper perspective


-S

 

[Kajata]

It's not that he lacks wit or social grace, but he's a bit shy to speak out in our group, especially with our other player who just strides around overshadowing him.  If he gets the opportunity, the Eclipse normally does very well, but if we walk into a room, the other, more socially comfortable player feels much more at home talking for the entire group, despite the fact that his character is a recluse who tries to avoid making links and social ties with people, even the rest of the circle.

 

[Forn Clakes]

It's not that he lacks wit or social grace, but he's a bit shy to speak out in our group, especially with our other player who just strides around overshadowing him.  If he gets the opportunity, the Eclipse normally does very well, but if we walk into a room, the other, more socially comfortable player feels much more at home talking for the entire group, despite the fact that his character is a recluse who tries to avoid making links and social ties with people, even the rest of the circle.

Then, surely, he isn't role playing his character correctly?


~FC.

 

[memesis]

I can see why people would be irate with WW bringing out a new book.  Yes, they're not being forced to buy the new books, but, for instance, if they wanna be able to participate in up-to-date rules based discussions on these forums and forums like this, they're gonna need to know the new rules, I assume.  

Much of the bitching I've heard here seems to be "zONO RULEZ CHANGES".  If a given gamer doesn't like the rules, why would they want to participate in discussions based on them, except to chime in with uselessness like "zONO THIS RULES SUXXORS"?


The exception might be a handful of STs who see one new suggestion they like and decide to cherry-pick it.  In this case they can just ask someone (and they are likely to know someone with 2nd ed already).  If they want to get more in-depth than that, they probably OUGHT to buy the new book anyway.

 

[Persell]

zONO?

 

[wordman]

I often wonder why so many people with no wit or cleverness at all want to play social characters.

Because they have no wit or cleverness. The same reason why complete wusses play ass-kicking barbarians.

 

[Flagg]

Because they have no wit or cleverness. The same reason why complete wusses play ass-kicking barbarians.

the problem, as I see it, is that role-playing is inherently a social activity, not a physical, ass-kicking one. No matter what you pretend you're doing, what's really happening is that you're sitting around with a bunch of guys and talking.


Imagine a game where in order to play, you actually kick asses. Imagine then, being a player that has no ass kicking ability, but just pretends to. That would be pretty lame, no?


-S

 

[memesis]

Imagine a game where in order to play, you actually kick asses. Imagine then, being a player that has no ass kicking ability, but just pretends to. That would be pretty lame, no?
-S

This is called LARP.

 

[Flagg]

This is called LARP.

I rest my case


-S

 

[Forn Clakes]

This is called LARP.

I'm going to ask the next question very quietly so I don't show my naivety in all things geek.


What's LARP?


Thank you for your time.


~FC.

 

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