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Realistic or Modern Missdrop (Military RP)

I'm sorry, I missed the part where Tahana put you in charge.


This is an alternative universe not set in any specific allied nation of our history, so it's fair to say the OP could make any changes to history he wants. 


Also, the French and Dutch resistance was very active alongside allied troops, even the Paratroopers throughout the war. Allied soldiers needed intelligence. Local 'spies' were often the best means of gaining that as well as translating. Most spies, interesting enough, were female because the Nazis were less suspicious of women. 


In regards to the Red Army, you are right that they were preferred by the government to serve in all- women battalions, but like I said, Tahana can make any changes he wants. You're wrong that they only fought 'once or twice'. Lyudimla Pavlychenko was credited with 309 kills, making her one of the top snipers of all time. She was a part of the 25th rifle division, an all-male, otherwise normal unit. She joined before the 'women battalions' were created and like many other women, was accepted  to serve alongside men because the Soviet Union needed every soldier it could get to push back the advancing Wehrmacht. A notable woman who served in a 'women battalion' would be Lidya Litvak. Her and one of her comrades became the first women to earn the title 'fighter ace' having downed more Luftwaffe aircraft than most pilots on the western front. 


Is it really too much of a stretch that this imaginary nation fighting an imaginary world-war-twoesquse battle could accept a woman into its paratroopers, whether because they're running out of soldiers or they need the propaganda for morale purposes or even because they're 'not' sexist like our forefathers in history? If so, is it really too much of a stretch to allow a female resistance character performing the duties that were there, recorded in history, around the dropping of liberating soldiers onto their village? 


I mean goodness, just Google 'Women in WW2' and click into the first link you see. It's never truly been just a man's world. Everyone fought the Nazis. 


Interesting character plot: My female character serves and your male one doubts her every step of the way until he sees that men aren't the only ones who can bare baptism under fire. :P  

I'm sorry, I missed the part where my response warranted you to be a smart-alek.


I said that I was on the assumption that it was going to be a fictional version of an Allied country in this alternate universe. IE whatever this universe's equivelant of the Allies is and that women didn't serve in the active-duty military. I am fully aware that they did as spies, rebels, factory workers, farmers and on the Soviet side, snipers and pilots. But not as paratroopers. We're talking about paratroopers here not snipers, pilots or spies.


No it's not hard to picture it, my point was that even so women were incredibly rare during the actual fighting in WW2 in comparison to men, so much so that Russia has been predominately female since the end of WW2 due to how many men died in comparison to women. That's only started to regulate itself in the past 15-20 years, Germany had the same problem but not to the extent of Russia (for obvious reasons) and that solved itself during the 80s I believe.


As said before, it's not hard to imagine. In-fact its very easy but the RP is about a squad of paratroopers being misdropped not a female resistance fighter, spy, sniper or pilot.


Also I am actually a woman, don't assume I'm a guy just cause I'm pointing out how WW2 was. There were dozens upon dozens of women working hard in factories and on farms making sure their countries could actually keep fighting but you seem to be over representing their presence on the battlefield just because of a few Soviets and a propaganda battalion. Note that I said battlefield and not overall because there were as you said, spies and resistance fighters that were women. I assume you believe I'm some kind of 'patriarchical oppressor of women' but I'm not, just pointing out the fact that women were rare in the actual fighting of World War 2 but I am in no way doubting their contributions to the overall war effort.


That plot is just very cheesy sounding.
 
To be clear, I don't see you as some kind of 'patriarchal oppressor of women'. I don't care if your a man or a woman nor did I say female soldiers were common on the front lines of World War Two. They aren't common today even. I'm merely pointing out that they were there and some did play a combat role, and therefore, it doesn't make sense to me, limiting the kind of characters accepted to be all-male, especially in a universe based on a new, alternative, imaginary set of nations. 
 
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where my response warranted you to be a smart-alek.


I said that I was on the assumption that it was going to be a fictional version of an Allied country in this alternate universe. IE whatever this universe's equivelant of the Allies is and that women didn't serve in the active-duty military. I am fully aware that they did as spies, rebels, factory workers, farmers and on the Soviet side, snipers and pilots. But not as paratroopers. We're talking about paratroopers here not snipers, pilots or spies.


No it's not hard to picture it, my point was that even so women were incredibly rare during the actual fighting in WW2 in comparison to men, so much so that Russia has been predominately female since the end of WW2 due to how many men died in comparison to women. That's only started to regulate itself in the past 15-20 years, Germany had the same problem but not to the extent of Russia (for obvious reasons) and that solved itself during the 80s I believe.


As said before, it's not hard to imagine. In-fact its very easy but the RP is about a squad of paratroopers being misdropped not a female resistance fighter, spy, sniper or pilot.


Also I am actually a woman, don't assume I'm a guy just cause I'm pointing out how WW2 was. There were dozens upon dozens of women working hard in factories and on farms making sure their countries could actually keep fighting but you seem to be over representing their presence on the battlefield just because of a few Soviets and a propaganda battalion. Note that I said battlefield and not overall because there were as you said, spies and resistance fighters that were women. I assume you believe I'm some kind of 'patriarchical oppressor of women' but I'm not, just pointing out the fact that women were rare in the actual fighting of World War 2 but I am in no way doubting their contributions to the overall war effort.


That plot is just very cheesy sounding.





 






 

Hey guys, I have an idea! Let's not straight-up kill this RP before it even gets made!
 
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To be clear, I don't see you as some kind of 'patriarchal oppressor of women'. I don't care if your a man or a woman nor did I say female soldiers were common on the front lines of World War Two. They aren't common today even. I'm merely pointing out that they were there, and therefore, it doesn't make sense to me, limiting the kind of characters accepted to be all-male, especially in a universe based on a new, alternative, imaginary set of nations. 

It does make sense if you take realism into account. If this is set in a WW2 era, regardless of universe then there'll probably be a kind of backwards, old-timey way of thinking. And as unfortunate as it is, that means limiting the roles of those who can be paratroopers. Personally I would like to have my character be a female paratrooper but that would be near-disrespectful to history unless we're making this a semi-realistic RP. Its just that I see so many "military RP's" that are filled with angsty teenagers and other unrealistic "soldiers" both on this site and others that I'm just very cautious on joining them now.
 
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It does make sense if you taken realism into account. If this is set in a WW2 era, regardless of universe then there'll probably be a kind of backwards, old-timey way of thinking. And as unfortunate as it is, that means limiting the roles of those who can be paratroopers. Personally I would like to have my character be a female paratrooper but that would be near-disrespectful to history unless we're making this a semi-realistic RP. Its just that I see so many "military RP's" that are filled with angsty teenagers and other unrealistic "soldiers" both on this site and others that I'm just very cautious on joining them now.



am taking realism into account. I don't plan on playing any teenage,  'angsty', or otherwise unrealistic soldiers. If the OP says He doesn't want female paratroopers, I'm ok with that. I'd just ask to play a historically correct resistance fighter. I mean, paratroopers have to land in the occupied territory eventually and such a character could make a nice supporting role. 


If you disagree, that's fine, you have every right. But, let the actual creator of this roleplay decide if he wants to limit the characters to all-male. 
 
am taking realism into account. I don't plan on playing any teenage,  'angsty', or otherwise unrealistic soldiers. If the OP says He doesn't want female paratroopers, I'm ok with that. I'd just ask to play a historically correct resistance fighter. I mean, paratroopers have to land in the occupied territory eventually and such a character could make a nice supporting role. 


If you disagree, that's fine, you have every right. But, let the actual creator of this roleplay decide if he wants to limit the characters to all-male. 

I was talking about the paratroopers being all-male. Not every character, I'm fine with the GM allowing female paratroopers or side-characters like spies or rebels.
 
Sorry for hijacking the thread, I didn't mean for any disrespect to @RIPSaidCone or for causing any drama, nor do I think she meant for any either. We were just discussing an issue relevant to the roleplay and I suppose we both could have been more polite to the other. I shouldn't have gotten smart alecy nor should I have made the assumptions I did when reading her reply. It's just been a terrible week all around for me and I know that's no excuse. 


Best wishes, and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day! <3
 
Please invite me this sounds so interesting. Also any chance there can be hired guns for this its always a good backstory for these types of troops and role-playing as them is funny as he'll. If not can there be some pre dropped spotters or scouts
 
Hey I'm tossing my hat in the ring. Love the concept and that people are arguing their cases with certain things, love people that care lol.
 
I could see this being a very Operation Market Garden like RP... But also I can see a way that this could work in the modern era. US Army Rangers, both Male and Female(THE ONLY TWO GENDERS, had to make that clear.), get dropped off in an area via Blackhawk or Chinhook at night though due to enemy fire they landed in the wrong location and were ended stranded. These men and women now have to fight there way toward there main objective and survive not just the enemy but the trek itself. Anybody like this idea?
 
Sure songs fun

I could see this being a very Operation Market Garden like RP... But also I can see a way that this could work in the modern era. US Army Rangers, both Male and Female(THE ONLY TWO GENDERS, had to make that clear.), get dropped off in an area via Blackhawk or Chinhook at night though due to enemy fire they landed in the wrong location and were ended stranded. These men and women now have to fight there way toward there main objective and survive not just the enemy but the trek itself. Anybody like this idea?

Sure sounds fun. Another way of doing this would be in the far future with a spaceship being shot down and the survivors haveing to fight across the whole planet to get to where there forces have a foot hold.
 
I'm interested by moste ideas here, though it being a little more interested in old timey and alternative universe, due to the possibilities and that I don't really know much about those wars beside how Sweden did and what I get out of comics
 
So if we're more or less settled on the setting being a sort of historical fantasy ww2, would it be alright if we throw some ideas out for the aesthetics of the 2 sides?


Like, I think it'd be cool if we used some of the weapons and uniforms from some of the less known/under utilized nations from the war. 


I.e. The Allied/Protagonist side could make use of French equipment and uniform aesthetics Such as the Mas 44 rifle, while the Axis/antagonist side could pull from an under utilized Axis nation like Italy or Finland.


For Reference: 


Mas 44 Rifle


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French Uniforms: 


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Want to set up a poll on it guys? Hell in a few minutes everyone here I will put up photos of photos of troops (First gen SAS, 101st Aireborne, Waffen, French, Italian, Red Army, and anything else I find. Weapons we can work on the fly, in this scenario arming up with enemy weapons wouldn't be uncommon, think Japan.)
 
If your going axis you got to go nazi dude if anything because the SS had the best uniform look

The Finns barrowed heavily from both German and Soviet military, so they have a really cool look that takes bits from both.


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Want to set up a poll on it guys? Hell in a few minutes everyone here I will put up photos of photos of troops (First gen SAS, 101st Aireborne, Waffen, French, Italian, Red Army, and anything else I find. Weapons we can work on the fly, in this scenario arming up with enemy weapons wouldn't be uncommon, think Japan.)



Poll sounds good to me
 

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