Fantasy Merdell Academy: OOC

[The Fluffiest Floof]

So I hear you were discussing the Aveoulians abilities hm? Not too weak, not too strong eh? Well, we'll have to see about that! They don't call us the fiercest warriors in Myerium for nothing!

My point is, imagine this: A person that is super strong and super resistant. lets take the Hulk as example.

Now what will the Hulk do against somebody able to throw him around, bind him in place or do other stuff with him simply by thinking about doing so? How would he ever get a punch out?

What would the Hulk do against somebody able to simply take his soul and by that kill him without even having to harm his super resistant body?

What would the Hulk do if somebody was to simply twist around and play with his mind? Physical resistance is pretty much useless if you just decide to harm yourself, because somebody manipulated you into doing so.

Get my point?

You could start adding resistances to such things. But then, how can the Hulk even be bested at all?

Thats what i mean. I find it hard to find a spot where they are actually balanced, right in the middle.

 

[dragonsfire]

My point is, imagine this: A person that is super strong and super resistant. lets take the Hulk as example.

Now what will the Hulk do against somebody able to throw him around, bind him in place or do other stuff with him simply by thinking about doing so? How would he ever get a punch out?

What would the Hulk do against somebody able to simply take his soul and by that kill him without even having to harm his super resistant body?

What would the Hulk do if somebody was to simply twist around and play with his mind? Physical resistance is pretty much useless if you just decide to harm yourself, because somebody manipulated you into doing so.

Get my point?

You could start adding resistances to such things. But then, how can the Hulk even be bested at all?

That's what i mean. I find it hard to find a spot where they are actually balanced, right in the middle.

But do they have to be balanced all the time, _{(also, never use comic character lore without specifying, I can think of about 2 alternate reality hulks who fuck up your whole point, along with him being magic resistant and having weird soul protection stuff being as Bruce's and Hulk's souls are fused)} I mean, I feel like that's up to us to balance, of course, being able to punch and attac isn't the greatest, don't forget they also protec, we can't act like characters have no mental or spiritual resistance, our magic, of course, won't automagically work on every character, especially not another Champion or Royal who is on the same level as us. It feels like your looking at this too objectively...like long distance and trickery works every time against swords or fist, which it doesn't considering that we are roleplayers, we decide who wins and looses with clever writing, and if Avoulians are fast enough or strong enough to smash a mountain with their bare hands, I doubt some little blinding light in their faces or a spell blast meant to hit their soul is gonna instantly neutralize them.

Like, try temporarily looking at this using stats from role-playing games, take it as if they have high resistance and strength, they are more durable, just because a spell is supposed to make them unconscious(like lightning) doesn't mean it will, it may takes a few tries for the opponent or after a while they may just adapt to the spell, that is when we try something else, with roleplay in between deciding the victor.

 

[The Fluffiest Floof]

But do they have to be balanced all the time, _{(also, never use comic character lore without specifying, I can think of about 2 alternate reality hulks who fuck up your whole point, along with him being magic resistant and having weird soul protection stuff being as Bruce's and Hulk's souls are fused)} I mean, I feel like that's up to us to balance, of course, being able to punch and attac isn't the greatest, don't forget they also protec, we can't act like characters have no mental or spiritual resistance, our magic, of course, won't automagically work on every character, especially not another Champion or Royal who is on the same level as us. It feels like your looking at this too objectively...like long distance and trickery works every time against swords or fist, which it doesn't considering that we are roleplayers, we decide who wins and looses with clever writing, and if Avoulians are fast enough or strong enough to smash a mountain with their bare hands, I doubt some little blinding light in their faces or a spell blast meant to hit their soul is gonna instantly neutralize them.

You might be right there. I just have too often witnessed people being unable to balance things out themselves. I just dont trust people to be able to do so, until they prove otherwise. And so my best bet is being objective and just making it as easy to balance as possible.
Im not into the whole comic thing. I watched all the Avengers movies, thats all knowledge of that shizzle i have.

And yeah, maybe im too objective. Maybe i just have to trust people they´ll handle it. I just have seen that go wrong so often, its hard to.

 

[Larry]

The Hulk isn't the best example really my friend. I read comics and I know enough about the Hulk that he is no joke in any shape or form. If an Aveoulian had the abilities to become like the Hulk, there would be no kingdoms, there would be an Aveoulian Empire. I can that being so durable and resistant, the Aveoulians are extremely brash when it comes to fighting as xCharm said about them in the lore. Thus they suffer great damage when the charge in recklessly like they do thus why they suffered such casualties when in an alliance with Ernayda and why they eventually called that alliance off.

 

[Larry]

I actually had an idea to try and mediate between the great physical prowess of the Aveoulians and how they suffered such a loss in their army that the Ernadyians wished to break their alliance, if you'd like to hear it? I'll tag Heavenchi so she can see whether it's acceptable or not.

 

[dragonsfire]

I actually had an idea to try and mediate between the great physical prowess of the Aveoulians and how they suffered such a loss in their army that the Ernadyians wished to break their alliance, if you'd like to hear it? I'll tag Heavenchi so she can see whether it's acceptable or not.

Well y'know, considering it was Myndok and Lweste who dwindled those numbers down...I'd be happy to hear

 

[Larry]

I think that the Aveoulians could have a genetic tendecy to enter into a 'berserker'-like state as they see fit. However this has been taken advantage before, especially by the Lwestians who have the ability to manipulate the mind. By entering this state, though there abilitiesbare increased, they lose their ability to reason, and what is powernif not channeled by reason? I believe that the Lwestians and Myndokians could have taken a smlimilar thing, the former being able to confuse the Aveoulians into attacking enemies that were not there whilst the Myndokians could help to enhance the 'berserker' state so as to make them more powerful but also quite savage whereby the Lwestians could sow discors among the Aveoulian rank by manipulating the soldiers to see each other as enemy combatants. I believe Heavenchi has used this idea for another battle but I feel it could be an interesting means to balance the warriors of Aveoul. In that sense, an Aveoulian is his own worst enemy. It's not the greatest idea in the world so I am open to suggestions!

 

[dragonsfire]

Larry What is the extent of this, would they be snapped out of it if they lost a limb or finger; not that magic can really do that, or does it de-activate after a certain amount of time. (although, this does leave in a cool idea for your character being able to think and control this form) I definitely think a berserk ability like that would be cool, It feels like there is some way to make this cooler or better?? Maybe I'm overlooking it, it just feels like the established Warriors of Myerium would have something slightly different?

 

[Larry]

That's the thing, the more durable they are, the less inclined they would be to actually feel minor injuries such as that. I would say that dismemberment would be one of the sure-fire ways to snap them out of the trance but I can imagine that it would pass away after a certain amount of time. By all means my friend, did you have something different in mind as regards to abilities for the Aveoulians? I'd be really interested in hearing it!

 

[dragonsfire]

That's cool, makes sense that there would naturally be a limit to snap them out, along with slowly diminishing. I dunno, I guess think it could be more flashy, like how Yystians had this loud bestial warcry when summoning large amounts of lightning against Lweste, maybe something more like they power up with each hit taken, or after taking enough damage Aveoulians rage out on a single person and that rage chains to everyone else on the battlefield, taking down person by person and ignoring all the attacks coming to you outwards, which also potentially can be used against them, at a chance of triggering the rage back onto the trickster?

 

[fickleglory]

i mean. at the end of the day if it happens that someome gets out of hand, we can jusy roll dice

or instead of saying "said action happened" its "said action is suggested" and based on the other persons honor they approve or deny it.


but hey, its just an idea you guys are real in depth and thats cool!

 

[q r o w]

Most of Lysandra is up! just need to add her bio and some links.
Tell me if I need to change the font for anyone.

 

[Larry]

I'll be honest with ya, I thought of something there that kinda plays on Deoxys from Pokemon; remember how he had attack and defence forms? I think that could be something that works out for the soldiers of Aveoul. The 'berserker' state could be one aspect of it, think Wolverine in that instance. The other could be a state that increases perception, the senses and speed, you could think of it as though Aveoulians just became Uchiha with their Sharingan, being able to perceive enemy attack ahead of time. Although we could say that most Aveoulians would only have ever awakened the 'berserker' state then the foreseeing one. Does that make sense?

 

[Heavenchi]

Hey guys~
Okay update me. What needs to be checked out by me again Larry

 

[Larry]

The last post is about as much as you need to know really! Wenwere just talking about Aveoul and the abilities and whether they were balanced or not.

 

[Heavenchi]

What was the conclusion?

 

[Larry]

There was none really! I was just wondering if the above mentioned abilities were okay for Reinhold and other Aveoulians to possess. If not, it's no bother buddy!

 

[Heavenchi]

What powers are you questioning about? o-o

 

[Larry]

Oh it wasn't me. I think The Fluffiest Floof brought it up to say they were kind of less flashy then other nation's abilities or something along those lines or that if taken to the opposite extreme, they could be overpowered. There was no meeting in the middle really! I'll see if I can find the post.

 

[Heavenchi]

That's the thing, the more durable they are, the less inclined they would be to actually feel minor injuries such as that. I would say that dismemberment would be one of the sure-fire ways to snap them out of the trance but I can imagine that it would pass away after a certain amount of time. By all means my friend, did you have something different in mind as regards to abilities for the Aveoulians? I'd be really interested in hearing it!

I think a berserker rage would be cool. The snap out factor could be immense force directed in the chest or head along with dismemberment?

 

[Heavenchi]

Honestly when I get home I’ll edit and be more descriptive with the powers and limitations...? Is there anymore concern about overpowered or to weak of powers? If so PM or just tell me here.

 

[Larry]

Whatever you feel best buddy, if I can help you express your thoughts on Aveoul's powers better then that's good enough for me.

 

[The Fluffiest Floof]

Oh it wasn't me. I think The Fluffiest Floof brought it up to say they were kind of less flashy then other nation's abilities or something along those lines or that if taken to the opposite extreme, they could be overpowered. There was no meeting in the middle really! I'll see if I can find the post.

I said that if you compared them to other powers, i find it hard to find a good spot for them without them being vulnerable to too many thing and therefore not being able to actually USE their power, while on the other side still not being so ridiculusly strong that they cant be dealt with.

 

[Heavenchi]

Truly I’m attempting not to be limiting. I trust you guys not to push the limits to much but, if you guys would rather have me put rules and limitations in stone, I can. ??‍

 

[The Fluffiest Floof]

I think a berserker rage would be cool. The snap out factor could be immense force directed in the chest or head along with dismemberment?

What about a emotional trigger, too?

Or maybe just witnessing enough bloodshed?