kibou
ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ̀ˋ
Other countries probably have some kinds of rules for protecting children. Sites in American servers have to follow American laws, for your own sake you should probably read up a little on your local laws.
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Mature content in PMs/Section for Mature Content
- Thread starter Artificial Sugar
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simj26
Awful, Terrible, No-good Layabout
Let's just sum it up:
We don't do it just to be on the safe side. Not all of us live in the US, yes, but some of us live in some parts of SEA that are VERY strict on pornography and the like, not to mention the overbearing parents. I played the devil's advocate for this sort of stuff a while back, and I see where the staff's coming from.
I highly doubt you'd want this site to get reported to the internet police if some 10 year old tells his parents that he's chatting with a stranger on the internet about sex.
Altogether, this is a sketchy subject, and our site, for whatever reason, draws in a lot of underage kids as compared to other unnamed rping sites. The point of the matter is: if those rp sites have this sort of thing, we let em do it. They get into trouble, its their problem to deal with. You wanna go there for your saucy, sexy, roleplaying with all the entering and exiting and all the fetishes, at the slight chance of appearing in a Chris Hansen special, heyo, there they are for you. I'm pretty sure you know of some by now~
RPN, meanwhile, will always contribute to Teen ratings instead, with the innuendos, >implied< sex, and all the gore!
We don't do it just to be on the safe side. Not all of us live in the US, yes, but some of us live in some parts of SEA that are VERY strict on pornography and the like, not to mention the overbearing parents. I played the devil's advocate for this sort of stuff a while back, and I see where the staff's coming from.
I highly doubt you'd want this site to get reported to the internet police if some 10 year old tells his parents that he's chatting with a stranger on the internet about sex.
Altogether, this is a sketchy subject, and our site, for whatever reason, draws in a lot of underage kids as compared to other unnamed rping sites. The point of the matter is: if those rp sites have this sort of thing, we let em do it. They get into trouble, its their problem to deal with. You wanna go there for your saucy, sexy, roleplaying with all the entering and exiting and all the fetishes, at the slight chance of appearing in a Chris Hansen special, heyo, there they are for you. I'm pretty sure you know of some by now~
RPN, meanwhile, will always contribute to Teen ratings instead, with the innuendos, >implied< sex, and all the gore!
Artificial Sugar
Plus Ultra
I feel like some of the responses here are acting as if I'm some type of sick weirdo for wanting to do stuff on the mature side of role playing. I really don't understand that particular stance, since I am an adult, and I only role play this stuff with adults. (Sure, I don't know 100% for sure, but unless their profile states 18 or older, I don't do that stuff. I'm not a creep.) I understand the reasoning behind not having this site contain adult material, as it was very nicely explained to me by a few people. I do not, however, understand why people are replying with things, such as " You wanna go there for your saucy, sexy, roleplaying with all the entering and exiting and all the fetishes, at the slight chance of appearing in a Chris Hansen special, heyo, there they are for you. I'm pretty sure you know of some by now~ "
Sure, if someone knowingly role plays sexual content with a minor, that is absolutely disgusting, and I do not condone it, but if the minor is lying about their age, yes, the adult will get in trouble, but I don't think they're sick or deserve to be arrested- it was the child's fault for lying. Sure, the safest route is to just avoid that type of role playing, period, but not everyone is going to stop just because of some off chance that a dumb kid joined/lies about their age.
Sure, if someone knowingly role plays sexual content with a minor, that is absolutely disgusting, and I do not condone it, but if the minor is lying about their age, yes, the adult will get in trouble, but I don't think they're sick or deserve to be arrested- it was the child's fault for lying. Sure, the safest route is to just avoid that type of role playing, period, but not everyone is going to stop just because of some off chance that a dumb kid joined/lies about their age.
The One Eyed Bandit
rotworm
The issue isn't that you will get thrown on Chris Hasen, it's that anyone could get thrown on Chris Hansen. One incident could screw the whole site over. Too much of a risk, and all that.
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Artificial Sugar
Plus Ultra
Yeah, and... I get that.
usuka
ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃ
wait, so innuendo and gore is allowed?
Kiseichu
Parasyte
Ursarion, there is a loophole. Instead of using RPN pm's, use discord, skype, etc. That way, nobody can report the site (But they still can report you.)
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ii Miku
Only in the darkness, can you see the stars. ★
Yay for artifical double standards! ヽ(^◇^*)/
Not saying it's RPN's, I understand why the site has its rules.
I've just always found it funny that Sex > Gore in so many people's minds.
Meredith
of Fiendish Intent
Yes, within reason. Innuendo should be fine, unless it's explicit, to the point of describing/touching genitalia - in which case it's not innuendo anymore anyways, eh?
As Dwiz has said in this thread, written gore is a-okay as long as it's not waaaay overboard (think 'sinews snapping', detailed descriptions of ulcers or open wounds, etc.) Real-life (photographed) gore is not allowed at all, but drawn gore is alright, as long as it's within a spoiler tag, and labelled as gore.
Keep in mind that users may not recruit for offsite erotic content on RpNation. This includes asking for 'smut', 'erp', and the like in interest checks or PMs.
Cold Ramen Noodles
This account is closed.
I understand why it's not allowed on this site and I agree that it should stay not allowed if only to make it so that the site never gets shut down due to something that could have been avoided. But I don't think that it makes you a sick person or anything like that to want to do mature role plays with somebody 18 or older.
Tardy Grade
The Page Turner
Question here.
I've been rp'ing pretty recently, as you can confirm, and have started one rp that's a bit more mature and in public view, but in which we don't delve into doing the act itself though we do refer to such heavily to the incidents.
Though it does have people being asses and pervs in present day that's not likely to draw ire I would think as much as the setup material itself.
It's called Starry Night if the mods wanna have a look(I can link if need be but I didn't since it may seem like self publicity or something :f ).
I don't mind moving to pm's or even off site with it if it seems to exceed the limits of the site :3 My partner isn't likely to mind either as from our talks she's quite cooperative.
- Your Responsive Responsible Random Roleplayer
@Ghost and mods.
Partner in question: @PrincessCrystal Hey there
I've been rp'ing pretty recently, as you can confirm, and have started one rp that's a bit more mature and in public view, but in which we don't delve into doing the act itself though we do refer to such heavily to the incidents.
Though it does have people being asses and pervs in present day that's not likely to draw ire I would think as much as the setup material itself.
It's called Starry Night if the mods wanna have a look(I can link if need be but I didn't since it may seem like self publicity or something :f ).
I don't mind moving to pm's or even off site with it if it seems to exceed the limits of the site :3 My partner isn't likely to mind either as from our talks she's quite cooperative.
- Your Responsive Responsible Random Roleplayer
@Ghost and mods.
Partner in question: @PrincessCrystal Hey there
Meredith
of Fiendish Intent
Question here.
I've been rp'ing pretty recently, as you can confirm, and have started one rp that's a bit more mature and in public view, but in which we don't delve into doing the act itself though we do refer to such heavily to the incidents.
Though it does have people being asses and pervs in present day that's not likely to draw ire I would think as much as the setup material itself.
It's called Starry Night if the mods wanna have a look(I can link if need be but I didn't since it may seem like self publicity or something :f ).
I don't mind moving to pm's or even off site with it if it seems to exceed the limits of the site :3 My partner isn't likely to mind either as from our talks she's quite cooperative.
- Your Responsive Responsible Random Roleplayer
@Ghost and mods.
Partner in question: @PrincessCrystal Hey there
If you're not describing genitals or the touching of them (including breasts), you're fine.
Again, though - anything deemed too erotic for RpN can't be advertised to others as moving to PM or offsite, as per our 'encouraging erotic content' rules.
Tardy Grade
The Page Turner
*nudge nudge wink wink*
Meredith
of Fiendish Intent
All good! I'm happy I could help.
kibou
ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ̀ˋ
Also, whether or not you publicly encourage it or not, erp in pms is still against the site rules and still a possible liability for everyone involved. I thought it was stated previously but maybe not? :V
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Tardy Grade
The Page Turner
Learn something new everyday :3 @Ghost
kibou
ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ̀ˋ
yeah, it's a funny thing :v altho i do think age groups def shouldnt be mixed, personally i dont rly care what anyone does in their private life. i think i read some stuff about why America makes it into such a taboo subject compared to other regions especially in comparison to how we treat gore, it has to do with the Puritans n stuff. fun history!
Also for those wondering how you would ever get caught and such by the real life authorities, all is takes is an angry parent or someone with a judge to file a reportt and some cop or some such with a basic search warrent to come ask us for your IP address, from there they will find you. With a search warrant, I have to legally give them your IP address and any other information that could identify you (IP Address, Email).
Etihw
Monochrome Divinity
Legal or not, I don't think it's very professional for an admin and staff to publicly name other sites here. US Laws are more than just 'teenagers cannot smut' considering they CAN give consent in specific age groups.
Chordling
Bardbarian, the Divine Chordia of Concordia
There's no way for the administration to actually verify anyone's age. I may admit that I am 19 but there is no way that Wizard would be able to prove this. RpNation is one of very few sites which restricts this kind of content. It's an attribute that I and many others very much admire.
Etihw
Monochrome Divinity
Touché~ However, I would like to point out that the other sites are also likely aware of state laws and may have their own methods of verification. Is it really such a good thing to throw shade on other places? I know RPN is awesome, but I am just a tad bit amused at the quick dismissals here~
No one is throwing any shade at Iwaku or any other sites. Its also not a secret what they do, we are friends with Iwaku. There is however no law in the states that let them or any other site do that. Also Iwaku is one of the most popular erotic sites around. If they were minor or extremely niche, then I guess it would be considered shade.
Chordling
Bardbarian, the Divine Chordia of Concordia
Those methods can be incredibly difficult and extremely invasive. To start, some adult site's use diver's licenses and/ or credit cards to confirm that their visitors are of age. The problem? Some people don't have those things and the absence of those two items does not mean that that person is not of age. It's against the law to ask for this information from persons knowing that they could be under the age of 13. Besides, when you sign up on a website, do you really want to be giving out all of that personal information when you sign up? I'm fairly certain that Wizard, and any site owner for that matter, does not want to integrate any new member for all of their personal identification. Doesn't seem too welcoming to me.
There have been all sorts of different types of technologies developed to attempt a simpler, less invasive way to gain more accurate information about the ages of their members, from fingerprint scanners to voice verification, all which have fallen flat. Given all of this information, I think Wizard is not too attracted. I know I wouldn't be.
Source
There have been all sorts of different types of technologies developed to attempt a simpler, less invasive way to gain more accurate information about the ages of their members, from fingerprint scanners to voice verification, all which have fallen flat. Given all of this information, I think Wizard is not too attracted. I know I wouldn't be.
Source
Tardy Grade
The Page Turner
I'm kind of hedged between the two of you on this affair @Etihw and (every mod).
But at the heart of the matter we're only able to talk about this site. So while quick dismissals about different sites, of whose mechanics we know little about on the whole, we are none the less aware about what we can do on those sites without drawing mod attention. Which as I'm told is a fair bit.
So if they have a way to accommodate the authorities demands then good on them. They did it.
If they throw users under the bus (not saying they do) without warning them then, again, it's well within their right. Like I stated.
But on this site, where the issue has now arisen (again I'm assuming), the mods have taken a clear stance and that's despite the long odds against them being able to contain what other people post here, or more precisely elsewhere in relation to here.
This never started out as a 'shade throwing' matter and the fact that it's deviating to that is kind of indicative of how we all agree that the primary matter is non-negotiable, with good reason, and we've all agreed on that somewhere in our minds :3
But at the heart of the matter we're only able to talk about this site. So while quick dismissals about different sites, of whose mechanics we know little about on the whole, we are none the less aware about what we can do on those sites without drawing mod attention. Which as I'm told is a fair bit.
So if they have a way to accommodate the authorities demands then good on them. They did it.
If they throw users under the bus (not saying they do) without warning them then, again, it's well within their right. Like I stated.
But on this site, where the issue has now arisen (again I'm assuming), the mods have taken a clear stance and that's despite the long odds against them being able to contain what other people post here, or more precisely elsewhere in relation to here.
This never started out as a 'shade throwing' matter and the fact that it's deviating to that is kind of indicative of how we all agree that the primary matter is non-negotiable, with good reason, and we've all agreed on that somewhere in our minds :3
