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Not exactlyYes, but you’re asking for the quality of tv show or movie
This is the last thing I’m gonna say, because I feel like no matter what any of us say, you’re not going to listen. You need some honesty, and sometimes honesty is harsh.
No artist is going to do this. None. There is no possibility, there is zero chance. No matter how many times you say ‘but’ or ‘other people are doing it for free’, there is no chance for this idea. Those people who animate for ‘free’ are either collaborating with a writer or professional team to make a project. The artist gets to actually put input into the project and draw the things they like, they aren’t bossed around by one particular person, they’re their own boss. Take Vivziepop for example.
What you’re asking for is downright selfish. You are asking someone to break their back all for fulfilling a fanfiction, that’s selfish. And to be honest, it’s kind of manipulative in a way. It’s not right, and it’s not okay. No one, no artist, and no animator agrees with this mindset. Because it literally abuses them and their skills. It’s wrong, really wrong. No one wants to work with a person who abuses their labor.
Please try to see things from another perspective and understand how hard artists work. And maybe actually research how artists and animators work, because to me it seems you don’t know very much about the topic.
wtf is wrong with you guys lol?
literally, the girl just asked if any very generous person out there would be interested in freely work on a fanfiction work for fun with her...If you can't, then this thread doesn't concern you. She didn't attack anyone nor did she deminize the work of anyone by being honest that she has no money... so why on earth did any of you feel the need to be brash and lesson her?
Everything you just said is completely irrelevant to this thread.
May I also add that the amount of shit I do COMPLETELY FREE that takes me HOURS just for fun because a project looks and sounds INTERESTING is unbelievable, it matches a part-time job tbh and I often accept having just a credit because I'm proud of my work and don't feel the need to monetize everything I do even if I could get monetized for most of it.
Just because you believe art is your job, rightfully so, it does not mean that EVERYONE or EVERY artist out there feels the same way and in consequence, does not give you the right to call her selfish for asking help and being HONEST from the beginning that there is no money that comes with it.
Half of yall just rambled to feed your ego and rant about how shitty and undermined art is, but it is completely irrelevant to this thread, especially considering this is a FREE forum for people who fucking write novels FOR FREE collaboratively with other people. Like common yall xD
This message is also directed to spookie scorpiodragon
On another note, I unfortunately cannot do animation so I can't be of help for you. May I suggest you get more than one artist, like a group of 2-3 who are highly interested in marvel universe and like ur storyboard and feel inspired by it. Because the reality of things is, you will have more chances of finding people that way, especially free work (which a few people have mentionned, it will be difficult finding people for that niche without monetary compensation unfortunately). Anyhow, goodluck!
You quite literally said a few posts up it has to look close to T.V level produced. And yes, it is selfish, no matter what you seem to think. Are you trying to emphasize 2D animation over 3D, because both are still extremely difficult. It's also difficult to rig a 2D puppet and have it move around, and most people don't have the software to even do that.It isnt a selfish request
Two its not tv quality
I mean like this
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For the characters
((Its not my art ik but its an example of what i mean)
Just look animated but not actual animation i dont want 3d stuff
Listen im sorry if i said tv qualityYou quite literally said a few posts up it has to look close to T.V level produced. And yes, it is selfish, no matter what you seem to think. Are you trying to emphasize 2D animation over 3D, because both are still extremely difficult. It's also difficult to rig a 2D puppet and have it move around, and most people don't have the software to even do that.
It is selfish, because this is something that's so time-consuming and difficult, and you offered exposure for work, and no pay. This is a service you'd have to pay for. It's like going to a restaurant and ordering food. The chef makes you an amazing meal, and you love it. The check comes, but you decline to pay.
"Well, you love cooking, so what's the big deal you didn't get money out of it? I'll write you a raving review in return for your service, surely you'll get more customers besides me."
Obviously, it's not the same exact thing, but that's what it sounds like. With what you expect, with good quality animation, and for even those two short scenes or so, it'd be time-consuming and you'd need someone who can dedicate actual work hours to it. Like a professional!
If you cannot afford one, then you will not get your animation right now. I'd suggest saving up money to buy an animatic first from an artist, which is unfinished but goes through the motions of the script. These can cost 200-600 dollars, depending on the length, the complexity, and the artist. (Some may even charge more.) If you want this badly, work and earn some money, and have a mutual business transaction and support the artists of our community.
At this point, that's the least important detail of my reply. Just realize you will likely not be getting what you want, and it was a selfish request, unintentional or not.Listen im sorry if i said tv quality
I meant it shouldnt look like the ones too much from the movie
It need to be drawn to look cartoonish animated version of the character like the drawing but not a actual animation
Thank you for understandingAs an artist, I personally don't think what the poster is requesting is selfish at all.
Is animation eternally gruelling and worth a LOT of money and time? Certainly. We can all agree on that. Will the OP likely find someone to do this for free? Chances are incredibly slim. Is it disrespectful to ask?
... No, not really.
This guy is asking. Not demanding. He's asking. Requesting. Offering. The entire point of all this is that nobody is being forced into working for free. He's not asking for freaking slave labour, he's asking for a volunteer.
It WOULD be rude of him, however, to start complaining that nobody is giving him free stuff. It WOULD be rude if he were saying "artists don't deserve to get paid". He really isn't though. It's not selfish to ask for someone to voluntarily work for you for free and then move on quietly if there are no takers.
I'm all for informing him that nobody's probably gonna do it for him, because I doubt anyone will. But calling him SELFISH for the mere action of asking for voluntary work is a bit ridiculous.
As an artist, I personally don't think what the poster is requesting is selfish at all.
Is animation eternally gruelling and worth a LOT of money and time? Certainly. We can all agree on that. Will the OP likely find someone to do this for free? Chances are incredibly slim. Is it disrespectful to ask?
... No, not really.
This guy is asking. Not demanding. He's asking. Requesting. Offering. The entire point of all this is that nobody is being forced into working for free. He's not asking for freaking slave labour, he's asking for a volunteer.
It WOULD be rude of him, however, to start complaining that nobody is giving him free stuff. It WOULD be rude if he were saying "artists don't deserve to get paid". He really isn't though. It's not selfish to ask for someone to voluntarily work for you for free and then move on quietly if there are no takers.
I'm all for informing him that nobody's probably gonna do it for him, because I doubt anyone will. But calling him SELFISH for the mere action of asking for voluntary work is a bit ridiculous.
I forgive you.Hey folks, I believe this discussion has gotten really intense, to say the least. I will most likely remove my post, it’s caused way too much conflict and stress for those participating in this thread.
Yes, I can admit I went over the line, I’m not afraid to put on my big boy pants and admit that. I can take criticism and it doesn’t upset me. I don’t often get into big discussions like this kind, I’ve never gotten into an argument over the internet before. I feel very passionate about this subject and I apologize that I allowed my emotions to get in the way.
I don’t believe the request itself was selfish, but I personally interpreted as someone possibly making YouTube Revenue off of someone’s art to be that way. Especially if the artist wasn’t getting a share of the profit.
Though, again. I do sincerely apologize for the trouble my post has caused.
Thanks for taking this like an adult. Genuinely, there aren't enough people who will admit a fault and move on. Most people just sink further into "Me-Versus-Them-Ville" and never come out. That's when things start to get heated and rude, name calling and whatnot. I'm sure I've even somewhat strayed into that a few times - everyone has at some point. Come on, we're not Jesus, here.Hey folks, I believe this discussion has gotten really intense, to say the least. I will most likely remove my post, it’s caused way too much conflict and stress for those participating in this thread.
Yes, I can admit I went over the line, I’m not afraid to put on my big boy pants and admit that. I can take criticism and it doesn’t upset me. I don’t often get into big discussions like this kind, I’ve never gotten into an argument over the internet before. I feel very passionate about this subject and I apologize that I allowed my emotions to get in the way.
I don’t believe the request itself was selfish, but I personally interpreted as someone possibly making YouTube Revenue off of someone’s art to be that way. Especially if the artist wasn’t getting a share of the profit.
Though, again. I do sincerely apologize for the trouble my post has caused.
I have huge respect for you.Hey folks, I believe this discussion has gotten really intense, to say the least. I will most likely remove my post, it’s caused way too much conflict and stress for those participating in this thread.
Yes, I can admit I went over the line, I’m not afraid to put on my big boy pants and admit that. I can take criticism and it doesn’t upset me. I don’t often get into big discussions like this kind, I’ve never gotten into an argument over the internet before. I feel very passionate about this subject and I apologize that I allowed my emotions to get in the way.
I don’t believe the request itself was selfish, but I personally interpreted as someone possibly making YouTube Revenue off of someone’s art to be that way. Especially if the artist wasn’t getting a share of the profit.
Though, again. I do sincerely apologize for the trouble my post has caused.
(Edit: Also I apologize to those who were dragged into this because of my post, that’s unfair and I sincerely apologize for that.)
Ur acting and assuming i’m not an artist. The only reason I mentionned is to emphasize that every artists works differently and saying it is not selfish of her for asking (as Daisy mentionned) volunteer work. But do feel free to draw any further assumptions. I dont expect much from someone readily able to call someone selfish for wanting help for a fanfictioneverything they said was relevant, because they are the target audience of this threads. It is insulting to ask artists for this level of work and dedication to a project that -
1. Has no guarantee to get off the ground and actually get a ton of views.
2. Get any money for the work they did, when the person is asking for "close to T.V" level animation. Oh, and if the video happened to be monetized by this thread owner, just by chance, then that person is actually making money instead of the artists.
3. If someone can animate well, it is a job. They learned how to animate, so they can use it as a job.
4. She did basically shit on any artist who might of had interest in this work, by telling them that they won't get paid, and that they'll get "possible exposure for it." Or in their words, "at least they'll get credit." It is insulting.
You are insulting for coming in this thread and shitting on the opinions of people who are artists, and who are telling this thread owner that it is an unrealistic request and some statements she made, even if unintentional, are rude to artists and undermines the work they put into their art. You claim the artists rambled to feed their ego, yet you fed your own in a sentence above bragging about you don't monetize the work you do.
They have the right to call her selfish. It is a selfish request, considering the work and labor that goes into it. Lordy, do not come shit on these artists for telling the truth that every good, high quality animator will say. I can't even count how many artists have been asked to do work for free. Sure, they enjoy drawing, it's what they do. But just because you enjoy your work, does not mean it should be for free.
Dio, please leave this be. Just walk away. Everything's been solved, there's no need to continue... Especially with passive aggressive comments tied on the end of your post. I appreciate your support towards my side but please don't escalate this any further.I have huge respect for you.
Sorry, went out training and just got back to see it.
Ur acting and assuming i’m not an artist. The only reason I mentionned is to emphasize that every artists works differently and saying it is not selfish of her for asking (as Daisy mentionned) volunteer work. But do feel free to draw any further assumptions. I dont expect much from someone readily able to call someone selfish for wanting help for a fanfiction