Realistic or Modern // Ignite the Spark //

[RZA]

I cannot will not shall not calm down because this is my OTP and I luv them and I see them going down a dark and stormy road and just have character development and spare them this misery please just please please please

@DrakeAlistair @Ashmorne


yall done broke Skel

 

[whitefoxkiller]

Me @ luna:

 

[RZA]

I apologize to whoever I just tagged instead of DrakeAlistair OOOPS

 

[Ashmorne]

@Rissa bahahahaha


@Skeleton I'm sorry that we broke you! It's gonna be okay, buddy.


Yes! I'm glad that Luna pulls off a mix of sexy and terrifying.

 

[Skeleton]

@Zoola I cannot wait to see how Eve and Luna act together

 

[Skeleton]

Oh and also with Dom @Space Cowboy Ein !!! And Ava!!!! @whitefoxkiller

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

Oh and also with Dom @Space Cowboy Ein !!! And Ava!!!! @whitefoxkiller

*reads list for Klein's name*


*stares, wondering if he missed it*


*reads again*


*stares, wondering if he missed it*


*reads again*


*rinse, repeat*

Eh, I mean, he cares about the cause insofar as he cares about Sola and Shasta. Does he, personally, care about freeing the Tranquil? Not really. But he does it and he's not angry about it or anything; it's a cause that he's part of because the only people he care about are part of it.
Still, the reason why he feels that way is something to be explored! There's room for development in their relationship on that front.





Calm down, Skel.

Sounds to me like grounds for a conversion. Kufufufufufu... Luna had better have something in the works where she can kill off a bunch of rebels and then blame their deaths on Shasta. Maybe the seeds can be sown in this one.

 

[DrakeAlistair]

[QUOTE="Darth Corvus]Sounds to me like grounds for a conversion. Kufufufufufu... Luna had better have something in the works where she can kill off a bunch of rebels and then blame their deaths on Shasta. Maybe the seeds can be sown in this one.

[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense, whatsoever.


Firstly, Kais' is pretty indifferent about the cause, one way or the other. It would be impossible to 'turn him to the dark side', so to speak, by betraying a cause that he's already reasonably indifferent about.


Secondly, Kais trusts Shasta unconditionally. No one would ever be able to convince him that Shasta was lying, except possibly Sola.


Thirdly, even if Shasta did, for some reason, cause the death of a bunch of Sparks, Kais wouldn't really care. So trying to convince him that Shasta is lying about something that would have no sway over him in the first place isn't likely to have any effect on him.

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

That makes no sense, whatsoever.


Firstly, Kais' is pretty indifferent about the cause, one way or the other. It would be impossible to 'turn him to the dark side', so to speak, by betraying a cause that he's already reasonably indifferent about.


Secondly, Kais trusts Shasta unconditionally. No one would ever be able to convince him that Shasta was lying, except possibly Sola.


Thirdly, even if Shasta did, for some reason, cause the death of a bunch of Sparks, Kais wouldn't really care. So trying to convince him that Shasta is lying about something that would have no sway over him in the first place isn't likely to have any effect on him.

Curses! Foiled by a sociopath yet again!

 

[RZA]

What... the hell... is going on in here....

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

 

[RZA]

That makes no sense, whatsoever.


Firstly, Kais' is pretty indifferent about the cause, one way or the other. It would be impossible to 'turn him to the dark side', so to speak, by betraying a cause that he's already reasonably indifferent about.


Secondly, Kais trusts Shasta unconditionally. No one would ever be able to convince him that Shasta was lying, except possibly Sola.


Thirdly, even if Shasta did, for some reason, cause the death of a bunch of Sparks, Kais wouldn't really care. So trying to convince him that Shasta is lying about something that would have no sway over him in the first place isn't likely to have any effect on him.

Can I just throw a lil well earned shade and say you kinda made my point again. (Last night's ooc convo)


But I agree with the sentiment nonetheless, there's no way in hell I see Kais turnin coat - even if Shasta caused some kind of mass causality.


But c'mon, would our Alpha really do somethin like that? [;

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

Can I just throw a lil well earned shade and say you kinda made my point again. (Last night's ooc convo)
But I agree with the sentiment nonetheless, there's no way in hell I see Kais turnin coat - even if Shasta caused some kind of mass causality.


But c'mon, would our Alpha really do somethin like that? [;

Or course not. Wouldn't stop the evil dictator from saying he did, though.

 

[RZA]

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True but I wouldn't necessarily consider Luna evil either. In her twisted mind I truly think she thinks she's doing the right thing. A+ for a well thought out antagonist Ash.</p>


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Edit: Also, you have to think of the Spark's tight knit community. Just because Luna says something, would they believe it? Probs not. Maybe new deviants, but who knows with them.</p>

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

It's a joke, ya silly goober.


But yes. Yes you did a great job.

 

[DrakeAlistair]

Can I just throw a lil well earned shade and say you kinda made my point again. (Last night's ooc convo)
But I agree with the sentiment nonetheless, there's no way in hell I see Kais turnin coat - even if Shasta caused some kind of mass causality.


But c'mon, would our Alpha really do somethin like that? [;

I disagree, if your point is that Kais and Sola won't work because he doesn't care very much about saving the Tranquil.


It's perfectly possible for two people who have different ideals to have a perfectly functional relationship. (Real-world examples: inter-religious couples, cross-cultural couples, couples who belong to different political parties, any couple who has different goals for their futures) What matters is that both parts of the relationship understand and empathize with their partner's needs. This is exactly what Kais does. To him, it doesn't matter very much if the Tranquil are freed or not, but he understands that it matters to Sola; he doesn't think it's stupid or anything of the sort. In fact, he works every day to achieve that goal. Not because he's trying to please her (though that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, either), but because it's his way of life and he has no reason to change that. There is no reason whatsoever that this should negatively affect their relationship.


What matters in a relationship is communication, empathy, understanding; the ability to explain your needs to your partner and to meet their needs. To Sola it is important to free the Tranquil, but that's not a need; she may need for Kais to respect her passion and to support her along the way so that she feels like she's making a difference--so that she can make a different. But she doesn't need for Kais to feel the same passion that she does.


This happens all the time in the real world.


And example: A couple where one is extremely ambitious and career-driven, and the other doesn't care much (this is a very frequent occurrence, depending on the culture. Historically, it was even more frequent. Sixty years ago in many countries, this was expected of any married couple. If a woman was career-oriented, hell had frozen over). The career-driver part of the couple needs to have his/her needs met, but that does not mean that they require the other half of the couple to be ambitious.

 

[RZA]

I disagree, if your point is that Kais and Sola won't work because he doesn't care very much about saving the Tranquil.


It's perfectly possible for two people who have different ideals to have a perfectly functional relationship. (Real-world examples: inter-religious couples, cross-cultural couples, couples who belong to different political parties, any couple who has different goals for their futures) What matters is that both parts of the relationship understand and empathize with their partner's needs. This is exactly what Kais does. To him, it doesn't matter very much if the Tranquil are freed or not, but he understands that it matters to Sola; he doesn't think it's stupid or anything of the sort. In fact, he works every day to achieve that goal. Not because he's trying to please her (though that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, either), but because it's his way of life and he has no reason to change that. There is no reason whatsoever that this should negatively affect their relationship.


What matters in a relationship is communication, empathy, understanding; the ability to explain your needs to your partner and to meet their needs. To Sola it is important to free the Tranquil, but that's not a need; she may need for Kais to respect her passion and to support her along the way so that she feels like she's making a difference--so that she can make a different. But she doesn't need for Kais to feel the same passion that she does.


This happens all the time in the real world.


And example: A couple where one is extremely ambitious and career-driven, and the other doesn't care much (this is a very frequent occurrence, depending on the culture. Historically, it was even more frequent. Sixty years ago in many countries, this was expected of any married couple. If a woman was career-oriented, hell had frozen over). The career-driver part of the couple needs to have his/her needs met, but that does not mean that they require the other half of the couple to be ambitious.

Right. But Kais can't really empathize with anyone. Simple as that. Like you said last night, there's room for growth; and until then I can't jump back on the bandwagon cause the pairing seems ludacris. But hey, they aint my characters and we'll see what happens.

 

[DrakeAlistair]

False, Kais empathizes with Sola constantly, she's one of two people that he does empathize with.


When she came back to the Oak, upset that she has killed two people and that she had unintentionally seen them as real people, he understood that--and he comforted her. When Shasta was yelling at her for going off on her own, Kais understood that she was feeling really terrible about what she'd done, and he tried to help. When Sola needs to go out and socialize with her friends, or to help the new recruits feel more comfortable in the Ruins, Kais understands that and he gives her the space to do so. Just because he doesn't feel the same things that she feels, doesn't mean he doesn't understand how she feels and make allowances for that.


He doesn't have to feel bad about killing people to know that Sola does. He doesn't have to care about the new recruits to know that Sola does. He doesn't have to want to have other friends to know that Sola does.

 

[RZA]

Okay, we'll see.

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

Man... Shit is going down...


*sits down with popcorn and waits for the fight to start*

 

[RZA]

[QUOTE="Darth Corvus]Man... Shit is going down...
*sits down with popcorn and waits for the fight to start*

[/QUOTE]
If yer waitin for a fight yer in the wrong thread bud, we're civil here.

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

If yer waitin for a fight yer in the wrong thread bud, we're civil here.

Damn. Foiled by decent people yet again.

 

[Ashmorne]

A Quick Summary of My OOC Journey Today

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• The f did I wake up to?
  
• ...what the hell is happening here?
  
• ...
  

Spoiler

• No one would ever believe that Shasta would turn on them.
  
• Luna doesn't even know what The Spark is, much less who Shasta is.
  
• Kais is way too loyal to ever convert. Like, actually, the only two people in the world he cares about are Sparks so why would he ever turn on them?
  
• Luna believes that she's doing what's best for her land. She's twisted, but doesn't make it any less real in her head.
  
• Fights? More like...debates
  

 

[Skeleton]

To answer your query, @Darth Corvus , I just don't see Luna interacting with a teenager at a party! She's a boss ass robot ice queen with much larger fish to fry (cough cough, governing workers like Eve, Ava, Rafa, and Dom).


Also @Zoola I see Luna and Eve actually almost being friends. Is that accurate or no?

 

[Scottybird Corvus]

To answer your query, @Darth Corvus , I just don't see Luna interacting with a teenager at a party! She's a boss ass robot ice queen with much larger fish to fry (cough cough, governing workers like Eve, Ava, Rafa, and Dom).
Also @Zoola I see Luna and Eve actually almost being friends. Is that accurate or no?

I don't recall asking anything, just noting that Klein wasn't on the list in amusement. Y'all are too serious. Gosh.