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Okay , so here's something I feel I need to say about Istar , as it's seeming to come up a whole lot both in and out of character. This is something of a text wall , so I put a summary of sorts at the end (just before where all the tags are).

Yes , Istar does have the Aura of Courage ability. And it does work , she's not just a bad Paladin - (arguably) far from it! I beleive her Aura of Courage prevents her from seizing upon her , not from feeling fear altogether. How could she truly be brave if she was wholly incapable of feeling fear? It's sort of the Princess Bride discussion , and I've always felt the braver person is the person who truly is facing - and , in this case , feeling - danger. Fearlessness and courage are two very different things , I think - courage is facing fear , acknowledging it , and yet still pressing on despite the danger. For example , aboard the Airship she felt afraid of jumping , but she still did jump despite her worries. Normally I feel her disliking heights that much would've had her tentatively taking that long-boat , Rihaly already down there or not , but since she's got her aura of courage she was able to push aside her fear and jump anyway. Notice she didn't scream once , or even cry out , though it was easy to tell she didn't exactly like falling. She can still be apprehensive , nervous , even outright terrified , and yet still be brave and courageous despite it all. If she faces an epic level dragon projecting fear enchantments in excess she won't soil herself and turn into a cowering mess , though there may still be some fear in her eyes as she tries to keep it from slaughtering her (and whoever she's with) before she/they can escape. I strong beleive that if she couldn't feel fear , she'd lack a lot of empathy and understanding , since fear is a very basic motivation for many people (and arguably the basis for a vast array of other emotions and feelings as well , some good and some bad). She would , I feel , be a much more distant , robotic person if the ability to feel fear was removed altogether.

In short her Aura of Courage prevents fear from taking her heart , not from entering it - nothing more and nothing less.


( Grim Wraithe Stjerna Grim Wraithe Stjerna , Segue Segue , folclor folclor , shadowstrikr25 shadowstrikr25 , Bramtic Bramtic , Proletariat Proletariat .. just so everyone sees this , as I feel understanding how I treat that particular ability is extremely important to understanding Istar's characterizations and overall story).
 
I agree. Being brave or courageous doesn't mean someone doesn't feel fear or know what it is. It's what you do when you are afraid that defines you're bravery.

Now that's not to say will stop picking on her. But as a player and DM I understand what you're getting at and agree with you on it.
 
Grim Wraithe Stjerna said:
I agree. Being brave or courageous doesn't mean someone doesn't feel fear or know what it is. It's what you do when you are afraid that defines you're bravery.

Now that's not to say will stop picking on her. But as a player and DM I understand what you're getting at and agree with you on it.
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And that's the important thing. I know Keth may still make fun of her (whether he actually knows this or not) , I just wanted to explain that to all the players. It's the same thing with the whole 'Istar's a princess' thing. I want to explain it to the players , so they know , even if in-character they continue to think otherwise. I want everyone to at least have some basis on which to understand her in the meta-sense (I'd not seek to artificially change how characters treat each other. That's in-game aspects , and I want to stay as far away from meta-gaming as possible). And asides , if the character in question is wise/smart enough to understand otherwise , and yet the player doesn't , such an explanation certainly help with that too (though I think that scenario would be rather rare myself).

I'm very glad you both understand and agree with me!
 
I mean , Keth couldn't be more wrong. Istar's the most optimistic character I could possibly ever create.

(Also , the server won't let me 'like' that one yet , sorry).
 
Grim Wraithe Stjerna said:
I'm confused, what is Keth wrong about? He's thinking Istar is always optimistic.
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Sorry , I phrased that horrendously incorrectly. (I was extremely tired then , since I got maybe 4-5 hours of sleep up to that point. Not even a good 4-5 hours of sleep!) I meant he's very very right to think that , because it's very true. She's the most optimistic , happy character I could've possibly made.
 
No worries. I was just honestly confused by that comment.

4-5 hours of sleep is a good night's sleep for me.
 
Thank you!

By the way , Istar was gonna tell Keth how he shouldn't doubt Rihaly ('she has the heart of a Paladin Keth , she wouldn't forget about us and start seeking treasure') , but Rihaly herself prevented her from doing that. I think Istar might get more offended when Keth doubts and/or insults Rihaly than when he does Istar herself. She's protective that way.
 
That's fair. But on that note, Keth has only known these two for about three days, and this is the first mission. :)
 
Well , now she's just gonna embarrass herself. Why is it most of the times thus far she had the opportunity to prove herself to Keth she ends up embarrassing herself due to things out of her control?

(Other than the whole jumping off the boar thing. That ended up working out well for her , I beleive).
 
Considering Rihaly lying on the floor and kicking up her heels as she watches her Princess wreak her mighty ways on the door.

But no, she's more supportive than that. :3
 
It's because the dice do not like it's sometimes.

But let's not forget there are ways of aiding another or taking 10/20. If we don't want to roll for it that is.

I do like that Istar has her cheerleader. :3
 
Segue said:
Considering Rihaly lying on the floor and kicking up her heels as she watches her Princess wreak her mighty ways on the door.

But no, she's more supportive than that. :3
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Thank the gods. If it weren't for Rihaly's encouragement , Istar would feel more ashamed than she already does.
Grim Wraithe Stjerna said:
It's because the dice do not like it's sometimes.

But let's not forget there are ways of aiding another or taking 10/20. If we don't want to roll for it that is.

I do like that Istar has her cheerleader. :3
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True. But I'd rather give her another couple rolls , unless taking 10 would work that is. Taking 20 would have her embarrassing herself for the next 5 or 6 minutes , which I'd rather avoid.

And I love that she does. It's so adorable to hear Rihaly cheer her love on while Istar's struggling to open the door.
 
Ok. To be fair, spending 5 minutes opening a stuck door is still very quick. But I get what your saying.

If our nemesis are doors, I'm ok with that. Unless they gain sentience..... *eyes the front door wearily*
 
True , but I'd hope Istar's both stronger and more adept than that. She is a Paladin , after all. She's one of an elite few!

Hopefully this time , between an actually decent roll finally and Rihaly's welcome assistance , they'll actually get the bloody thing open finally. And I suppose doors aren't the worst enemy , though if someone lit a fire and their only exit was a stuck door..
 
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