General Discussion

[ChoShadow]

This is where we will hold all regular discussion about the RP. The permissions should be set, but please do not post in any topic if you do not have my express permission just in case I missed something.


Thank you!

 

[ChoShadow]

@Altschmerz, @Dai tenshi, @Unwritten, @Thanatoaster, @Collidias Rex.


Hey everyone!


I have updated the "Mechanics" page in the "Role-play Area" Forum, so please read up on the new additions as soon as you can. I look forward to seeing new character submissions from everyone as soon as you're ready!


Cheers!

 

[norway]

Stellar, rereading now. 

 

[Razgriz]

I just scanned over it at the moment. I will completely read over it in a couple of minutes, but since you are here. I wanted to take advantage of that to ask you more questions. 


1st. One of my trainers will be working towards being a coordinator. I am assume Poke Contests will be in the rp, but I just want to clarify this.


2nd. Organization such as the Rangers and such will be in the rp, or at the very least included in the lore? 

 

[ChoShadow]

I just scanned other it at the moment. I will completely read over it in a couple of minutes, but since you are here. I wanted to take advantage of that to ask you more questions. 


1st. One of my trainers will be working towards being a coordinator. I am assume Poke Contests will be in the rp, but I just want to clarify this.


2nd. Organization such as the Rangers and such will be in the rp, or at the very least included in the lore? 

1) Pokémon Contests, as in the contests which have the Pokémon dress up and show off their cutsiness for a crowd, are not in this RP. I consider them about as practical and useful as those horrific contests in which people (mostly women) dress up their daughters and throw as much makeup on them as possible to make their little 4-7 year olds try to look like adult women.


There are other kinds of contests which are more practical and useful for both the Trainers and their Pokémon such as various bi-annual competitions which are restricted to specific Pokémon types, species, etc like a Fire Type Pokémon competition, Ice Type Pokémon competition, Quadrupedal Pokémon competitions, Bipedal Pokémon competitions, etc. So there are plenty of events and competitions and contests which take place, but those awful contests from the games where you dress up your Pokémon and let them show off how "cute," "tough," "smart," etc they were are not in the RP.


2) The Pokémon Rangers do exist, technically, but they're not called the Pokémon Rangers. Instead there is only the Pokémon Law Enforcement Program which has three divisions: Police division, Detective division, and a Military division. The military division is basically what the Pokémon Rangers were in that they are the most elite Law Enforcement division and the ones who handle the most dangerous and widespread problems such as dealing with Team Rocket.

 

[Razgriz]

1) Pokémon Contests, as in the contests which have the Pokémon dress up and show off their cutsiness for a crowd, are not in this RP. I consider them about as practical and useful as those horrific contests in which people (mostly women) dress up their daughters and throw as much makeup on them as possible to make their little 4-7 year olds try to look like adult women.


There are other kinds of contests which are more practical and useful for both the Trainers and their Pokémon such as various bi-annual competitions which are restricted to specific Pokémon types, species, etc like a Fire Type Pokémon competition, Ice Type Pokémon competition, Quadrupedal Pokémon competitions, Bipedal Pokémon competitions, etc. So there are plenty of events and competitions and contests which take place, but those awful contests from the games where you dress up your Pokémon and let them show off how "cute," "tough," "smart," etc they were are not in the RP.


2) The Pokémon Rangers do exist, technically, but they're not called the Pokémon Rangers. Instead there is only the Pokémon Law Enforcement Program which has three divisions: Police division, Detective division, and a Military division. The military division is basically what the Pokémon Rangers were in that they are the most elite Law Enforcement division and the ones who handle the most dangerous and widespread problems such as dealing with Team Rocket.

Alright, that is all I needed to know.  Thank youi

 

[Unwritten]

Hey everyone!


I have updated the "Mechanics" page in the "Role-play Area" Forum, so please read up on the new additions as soon as you can. I look forward to seeing new character submissions from everyone as soon as you're ready!


Cheers!

Great! I'll be sure to take a look there - and get my character(s) posted - after my lectures are done for the day.~

 

[Collidias Rex]

@ChoShadow how do you figure energy-manipulation work? Fire is a bit easier because fire can be created naturally in several ways according to our existing laws of physics - we can combine gases from a pair of pouches, we can ignite a single flammeable gas through striking while exhaling it ... but energies such as "dark", "ghost" and "psychic" for instance, don't function according to our laws of physics (as far as I know).


For instance - what is a "psycho cut" attack? It's described in the games as launching a blade of psychic energy, but how is that energy merely "created"? Does this kind of ability still exist? Do Pokemon have a yet-undocumented ability to transform chemical energy within their bodies into energy through unknown means, or do you have a system/mechanism in place for that? I like the idea of justifying the science behind techniques (to a certain extent), but might be a bit of a struggle to create a physical mechanism for producing psychic or dark energy. I like dark-type pokemon (promise I won't be an edgelord), and I'm wondering how I'll get their moves to work. I have a few ideas, but the more abstract "blast" type attacks give me pause.

 

[ChoShadow]

@ChoShadow how do you figure energy-manipulation work? Fire is a bit easier because fire can be created naturally in several ways according to our existing laws of physics - we can combine gases from a pair of pouches, we can ignite a single flammeable gas through striking while exhaling it ... but energies such as "dark", "ghost" and "psychic" for instance, don't function according to our laws of physics (as far as I know).


For instance - what is a "psycho cut" attack? It's described in the games as launching a blade of psychic energy, but how is that energy merely "created"? Does this kind of ability still exist? Do Pokemon have a yet-undocumented ability to transform chemical energy within their bodies into energy through unknown means, or do you have a system/mechanism in place for that? I like the idea of justifying the science behind techniques (to a certain extent), but might be a bit of a struggle to create a physical mechanism for producing psychic or dark energy. I like dark-type pokemon (promise I won't be an edgelord), and I'm wondering how I'll get their moves to work. I have a few ideas, but the more abstract "blast" type attacks give me pause.

I agree with the desire to have real science behind techniques, but unfortunately for Pokemon there's no way that I know of (I'm not educated enough on the subject) to justify what those specific Pokemon can do.


So we'll have to just live with the idea that these forms of energy they use are "normal" for them and that there is science behind it, but it's beyond our character's understanding.

 

[norway]

I'll have my character done soon, dealing with a nasty cold so my apologies for the wait. 

 

[Razgriz]

I would also like to report that my cs is close to being done. Just need to finish typing the personality (which I always find difficult) and the Bios out. I already have everything in mind for them. I have sadly been busy though since my classes have taken up a lot of my time. I just finished my last lab practical today. I still have my finals next week. But I should have my cs up within a day or two. Preferably sooner, but I will have to see depending on how I feel where I am with my studies.

 

[ChoShadow]

I'll have my character done soon, dealing with a nasty cold so my apologies for the wait. 

No worries.

I would also like to report that my cs is close to being done. Just need to finish typing the personality (which I always find difficult) and the Bios out. I already have everything in mind for them. I have sadly been busy though since my classes have taken up a lot of my time. I just finished my last lab practical today. I still have my finals next week. But I should have my cs up within a day or two. Preferably sooner, but I will have to see depending on how I feel were I am with my studying. 

Not a problem. I have finals the week after next.

 

[Collidias Rex]

Pulling mine together - but have a question.


Is anyone here wanting to use Dark-type pokemon? I'm planning on having a character who starts with a Zorua, and I want to establish a little setting-related psuedoscience stuff (depending on @ChoShadow 's approval) around dark types/moves and how their techniques work - but didn't want to push into anyone else's territory.

 

[Razgriz]

Pulling mine together - but have a question.


Is anyone here wanting to use Dark-type pokemon? I'm planning on having a character who starts with a Zorua, and I want to establish a little setting-related psuedoscience stuff (depending on @ChoShadow 's approval) around dark types/moves and how their techniques work - but didn't want to push into anyone else's territory.

At some point down the line both of my characters will hopefully get a dark type pokemon, but I think I will just follow suit with your ideas; if approved by Shadow. 

 

[Collidias Rex]

At some point down the line both of my characters will hopefully get a dark type pokemon, but I think I will just follow suit with your ideas; if approved by Shadow. 

I mean, I haven't run anything past him/her yet, but like I said earlier - I like explaining and justifying stuff, and dark type has always been one of the more obscure "types" in the pokemon world since ... well, it's treated more as "evil" type rather than "darkness". So, I want to create a loose little system on what "dark type" is.


Take two pounds of neuroscientific theory, add one pound of sifted Freudian psychology, mix well and bake for 40-50 minutes, then glaze with some good ol' fashioned elemental darkness.

 

[Razgriz]

I mean, I haven't run anything past him/her yet, but like I said earlier - I like explaining and justifying stuff, and dark type has always been one of the more obscure "types" in the pokemon world since ... well, it's treated more as "evil" type rather than "darkness". So, I want to create a loose little system on what "dark type" is.


Take two pounds of neuroscientific theory, add one pound of sifted Freudian psychology, mix well and bake for 40-50 minutes, then glaze with some good ol' fashioned elemental darkness.

Well I am just saying I will go with whatever is accepted. I would like to say this one thing though. There are things that not even science can explain. Things that science has tried and still can't figure out. So with things like dark, ghost, and psychic types. Maybe just leaving it up to that as is. Just a thought. This is more met for @ChoShadow though lol.

 

[ChoShadow]

I mean, I haven't run anything past him/her yet, but like I said earlier - I like explaining and justifying stuff, and dark type has always been one of the more obscure "types" in the pokemon world since ... well, it's treated more as "evil" type rather than "darkness". So, I want to create a loose little system on what "dark type" is.


Take two pounds of neuroscientific theory, add one pound of sifted Freudian psychology, mix well and bake for 40-50 minutes, then glaze with some good ol' fashioned elemental darkness.

I'm a guy, just so everyone knows.


Anyway, I'm willing to hear you out on this science related information. If it's at least partially understandable by yours truly (a musician more than a scientist, though I like to think I'm intelligent and well educated) then I'll think about adding it to the RP. If it goes too far over my head then I'll pass on it and we'll just accept Dark-type Pokemon moves as another kind of Pokemon element.

 

[Thanatoaster]

So, I realized something last night as I was drifting off to sleep, and that's that the "recall as soon as blood is drawn" rule is very easily abusable. For example, freezing, electrocuting, or burning-so-intensely-wounds-are-automatically-cauterized are all perfectly fatal, but don't involve blood being drawn. In addition, Pokemon relying on blades, claws, fangs, and other non-blunt natural weapons have a clear advantage, as from what I understand of the rules, a Weavile darting in and simply grazing an opponent's Pokemon with its claws would be enough to put said Pokemon out of the rest of the battle. Also, how is this rule applied to Pokemon that wouldn't logically have blood, like ghosts or things like Magnezone or Porygon?

(And I hope this doesn't come off as rude. I just like knowing things, and this seemed to be sort of a hole in the rules.)

 

[ChoShadow]

So, I realized something last night as I was drifting off to sleep, and that's that the "recall as soon as blood is drawn" rule is very easily abusable. For example, freezing, electrocuting, or burning-so-intensely-wounds-are-automatically-cauterized are all perfectly fatal, but don't involve blood being drawn. In addition, Pokemon relying on blades, claws, fangs, and other non-blunt natural weapons have a clear advantage, as from what I understand of the rules, a Weavile darting in and simply grazing an opponent's Pokemon with its claws would be enough to put said Pokemon out of the rest of the battle. Also, how is this rule applied to Pokemon that wouldn't logically have blood, like ghosts or things like Magnezone or Porygon?

(And I hope this doesn't come off as rude. I just like knowing things, and this seemed to be sort of a hole in the rules.)

Not to worry. I was aware of these kinds of potential abuses when I made the RP so I have answers for you.


1) When it comes to fire-type Pokemon, their flames don't burn hot enough to cause instant cauterization. There is simply no way for a Pokemon, as a biological specimen, to concentrate flames in any way that can accomplish the task. If they want to even mildly cauterize a wound, they'll have to blast the target wound for some time and they can't concentrate their flames beyond a certain extent so they'll likely burn the rest of the limb/affected area along with the wound which does more harm than good.


2) Ice-type attacks seem the worst offender, but there's a problem with them too. In order for an icy-type Pokemon to draw blood, they have to hit their target with a physical move capable of drawing it in the first place like a scratching or slashing technique. The time it takes to strike physically and then try to freeze the targeted area is more than enough for blood to be drawn and the Pokedex to do its thing.


Quasi-Physical techniques like Ice Beam, Blizzard, etc which rely on either a concentrated beam or manipulation of the surrounding air to use as a weapon cannot cause the kind of trauma needed to draw blood on their own as they're not truly physical techniques that can rend flesh, though freezing is more than capable of taking place.


Moves like Ice Fang (as well as other elemental 'Fang' attacks and such), on the other hand, are somewhat of a misnomer. They are simply bites, but the teeth of ice-type Pokemon are covered in a thin layer of sub-freezing cold air which gives them a tremendous stinging quality and sometimes causes prolonged discomfort from a minor freeze burn effect, but it's not cold enough nor does it remain in contact with the wound long enough to instantly freeze or cauterize any blood which may be drawn if they bite hard enough to draw it in the first place.


3) Electric Pokemon come with a strange phenomenon which protects people, and thus other Pokemon as well, from the potentially more deadly side of electricity. They're pure voltage. There is little to no actual current in electric-type Pokemon's attacks, because it is the current, not the voltage, which can make electricity lethal to living creatures. Because there is little to no current, the severity of their attacks, no matter how powerful they appear carry little danger of anything more than mild paralysis and/or long term discomfort as the body fights to rid itself of the leftover charges in the body once the attacks have come to an end. But again it's current that kills, and electric-type Pokemon generate little to no real current which makes their attacks annoying and capable of paralyzing you for a time, but it will never kill you nor will it be capable of cauterizing wounds.


4) The dangers of Pokemon with blade-like extensions on their bodies, when it comes to Trainer vs. Trainer or Trainer vs. Wild Pokemon, is the number one concern of the Pokemon League and thus the rules are extremely strict when you acquire Pokemon who could be more dangerous in battle.


When you register for the Pokemon League, you are signing a contract in which you agree to do all in your power to protect yourself, your Pokemon, and the Pokemon of everyone you meet from harm to the best of your ability. The Pokedex keeps track of how many Pokemon you've encountered, either wild or human-owned, who have bled as a direct result of your actions as a Trainer. Depending on the number of times it's happened and how often it happens, you could face mild disciplinary action (such as being barred from entering tournaments or other competitions for a period of time) to more harsh disciplinary action such as having your Pokemon Trainer's License suspended either for a period of time or indefinitely, and if the latter happens all of your Pokemon will be confiscated by the Pokemon League and given out for adoption to other, more responsible Trainers.


In either case when you are called to face disciplinary action your Pokemon Trainer's record receives a black mark which stays with you for the rest of your Pokemon Training career. Too many black marks will forever ban you from higher grade competitions and tournaments as well as potentially cause prices at Poke Marts to increase as an indirect method of making your life more difficult as a consequence of your actions.


The Pokemon League takes the safety of all Pokemon very seriously, and thus they will not allow deliberate and frequent use of dangerous or overly aggressive techniques which draw blood from others.

 

[ChoShadow]

@Altschmerz, @Dai tenshi, @Unwritten, @Thanatoaster, @Collidias Rex


Hey guys.


Given that school is in its final phases (or done for some of us) and the holidays are fast approaching (some of them underway now), I am being as patient as I can about waiting for you guys to create a character(s) for the RP. If you're having trouble doing so, please speak up and I'll help you out as best I can. I know the length requirements of the personality and biography section are likely to be longer than you're used to, but in all honesty I find it difficult to believe that filling up 2 and 3 paragraphs of information in 5-7 sentences could really be that difficult. This RP has been up for almost 3 weeks now and only Altschmerz has submitted even a WIP though it remains largely empty.


If you have forgotten/lost interest in this RP idea then please speak up as well. Ignoring and/or disappearing from an RP without informing the GM of your departure is very rude and inconsiderate behavior on your part and I don't appreciate it at all. If you don't want to participate, have the courage and courtesy to say so. It's not at all difficult to take 30 seconds out of your time to contact me and say "Hey, I'm sorry but I have since lost interest in the RP and thus will not participate. Good luck!" or something to that effect.


Sounds a bit cold, I know, but it's the truth. As the GM I can't afford to let the RP sit in limbo while you are all considered joined and active members who don't do anything to participate. If you're going to participate, I need to know you're still here and interested. If you're not, then I need to know you're stepping aside.


So please do speak up about your situation so I know who to wait for and who to drop from the RP. I intend to continue this RP no matter what, but I cannot do so until I know exactly who's still in and who's choosing to step aside.


Thank you.

 

[Collidias Rex]

@Altschmerz, @Dai tenshi, @Unwritten, @Thanatoaster, @Collidias Rex


Hey guys.


Given that school is in its final phases (or done for some of us) and the holidays are fast approaching (some of them underway now), I am being as patient as I can about waiting for you guys to create a character(s) for the RP. If you're having trouble doing so, please speak up and I'll help you out as best I can. I know the length requirements of the personality and biography section are likely to be longer than you're used to, but in all honesty I find it difficult to believe that filling up 2 and 3 paragraphs of information in 5-7 sentences could really be that difficult. This RP has been up for almost 3 weeks now and only Altschmerz has submitted even a WIP though it remains largely empty.


If you have forgotten/lost interest in this RP idea then please speak up as well. Ignoring and/or disappearing from an RP without informing the GM of your departure is very rude and inconsiderate behavior on your part and I don't appreciate it at all. If you don't want to participate, have the courage and courtesy to say so. It's not at all difficult to take 30 seconds out of your time to contact me and say "Hey, I'm sorry but I have since lost interest in the RP and thus will not participate. Good luck!" or something to that effect.


Sounds a bit cold, I know, but it's the truth. As the GM I can't afford to let the RP sit in limbo while you are all considered joined and active members who don't do anything to participate. If you're going to participate, I need to know you're still here and interested. If you're not, then I need to know you're stepping aside.


So please do speak up about your situation so I know who to wait for and who to drop from the RP. I intend to continue this RP no matter what, but I cannot do so until I know exactly who's still in and who's choosing to step aside.


Thank you.

I'm still here. Have been working on a character, but I've been on holiday since the start of the month, so I've been a bit sporadic.


I prefer to create my character sheets locally and only post once it's complete, thus my absence - but I'm still around and eager.

 

[Razgriz]

@Altschmerz, @Dai tenshi, @Unwritten, @Thanatoaster, @Collidias Rex


Hey guys.


Given that school is in its final phases (or done for some of us) and the holidays are fast approaching (some of them underway now), I am being as patient as I can about waiting for you guys to create a character(s) for the RP. If you're having trouble doing so, please speak up and I'll help you out as best I can. I know the length requirements of the personality and biography section are likely to be longer than you're used to, but in all honesty I find it difficult to believe that filling up 2 and 3 paragraphs of information in 5-7 sentences could really be that difficult. This RP has been up for almost 3 weeks now and only Altschmerz has submitted even a WIP though it remains largely empty.


If you have forgotten/lost interest in this RP idea then please speak up as well. Ignoring and/or disappearing from an RP without informing the GM of your departure is very rude and inconsiderate behavior on your part and I don't appreciate it at all. If you don't want to participate, have the courage and courtesy to say so. It's not at all difficult to take 30 seconds out of your time to contact me and say "Hey, I'm sorry but I have since lost interest in the RP and thus will not participate. Good luck!" or something to that effect.


Sounds a bit cold, I know, but it's the truth. As the GM I can't afford to let the RP sit in limbo while you are all considered joined and active members who don't do anything to participate. If you're going to participate, I need to know you're still here and interested. If you're not, then I need to know you're stepping aside.


So please do speak up about your situation so I know who to wait for and who to drop from the RP. I intend to continue this RP no matter what, but I cannot do so until I know exactly who's still in and who's choosing to step aside.


Thank you.

I am still interested and working on a cs. I would and liked to have my cs long before now, but I have been busy traveling. Because of such things have been a bit sporadic. But things should calm down in a couple of days. I should have my cs up as soon as possible. If for whatever reason my cs takes to long though feel free to count me out. I wouldn't want to hold up your rp. As well I can post what bit of my cs as a WiP if you want. Just to show there is progress and work being done to it.


Being a former GM of a few rps, its understandable and I don't find anything you said rude. As for the length requirements they aren't really that long. I just like to be detailed and ensure my writing follows. 

 

[norway]

I'd like to say I'll be finished tomorrow. Thanks for being patient - my mom just lost her job and I'm looking for something to hold us together so I've just been a little not-so-merry and furthermore not-so-creative. 

 

[Collidias Rex]

@ChoShadow just a check-in to see if you're still doing this (given half the people from the interest check haven't shown up (I know I'm not helping with my slowness))


If so - I've got a character mostly done, but am finishing the final details. Current plan is that my character has already had a "pokemon journey" in the past. He "befriended" a very powerful, very old shiny pokemon and caught it, then went on a faceroll adventure through the region for all of two weeks before getting robbed at gunpoint and having his pokemon stolen. Now he's a bitter and angry trainer with a taste for immense power, but he isn't particularly great at actually training since his previous pokemon was already well-trained when he caught it.


Do you have any objections to my character having a monstrously-powerful pokemon in the past and having lost it? The idea is that the pokemon is over a century old and at this point recognizes its own value, so it's learned to manipulate its way from trainer to trainer for its own gain. Also gives a possible antagonist force down the line.

 

[ChoShadow]

@ChoShadow just a check-in to see if you're still doing this (given half the people from the interest check haven't shown up (I know I'm not helping with my slowness))


If so - I've got a character mostly done, but am finishing the final details. Current plan is that my character has already had a "pokemon journey" in the past. He "befriended" a very powerful, very old shiny pokemon and caught it, then went on a faceroll adventure through the region for all of two weeks before getting robbed at gunpoint and having his pokemon stolen. Now he's a bitter and angry trainer with a taste for immense power, but he isn't particularly great at actually training since his previous pokemon was already well-trained when he caught it.


Do you have any objections to my character having a monstrously-powerful pokemon in the past and having lost it? The idea is that the pokemon is over a century old and at this point recognizes its own value, so it's learned to manipulate its way from trainer to trainer for its own gain. Also gives a possible antagonist force down the line.

You make it hard for me to object to this idea. On principle I want to, because I don't like the idea of him having an ultra-powerful Pokemon on his side. But if the Pokemon was actually manipulating him for its own gain and using him and the time spent with him to get stronger then it's hard to say no because he doesn't have the Pokemon anymore. That and, if others could convince him to share, his experience would make him a good mentor if he could get over his bitterness to the others.


So, albeit somewhat begrudgingly, I will accept this character.