General Discussion [Dreams of the Third Age]

[QUOTE="Lord-Leafar]I have to agree that that charm is the most vague effect ever, you need to clarify what exactly pierces, illusions? lies? having a derangement is not a falsehood, Raksi's mind is it's true self now although twisted.
There's a developer/writer quote about Rakshi, and it explains how Raksi is nothing but a clever and cunning manipulator, she uses all this tactics (baby eating cannibalism) to upset and discomfort everyone who meets her into believing she is crazy, and once you think that you lose, since that's exactly what she wants you to believe, I'll post a link if I can find it.

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I like that.


edit: Seeker of the End: yeah sure let me know of the changes.
 
I have no problem with my cover being blown. Just don't hit me with this because you (player) know about it. Let's see how it will come up.


But I have questions.


How long does it take to get one quality restored? Does burnout takes place sequentially or is done simultaneously? Charm needs to specify this IMO.


Does it burns out transformative non permanent charm effects like shintai? What about permanent effects gained from charms(they are some kind of alteration after all) ?


I agree with Lord-Leafar and Esbilon you need well defined classes of effect you can switch off by each charm purchase.


As for defense it's clear charm is sorcerous(so this is also shaping effect) so any kind of anti shaping effect should block this charm I think
 
Honored Companion of the Sun / Talon of Draconic Fury, had to think about it for a little while but will do the following changes:


-remove the defense bonuses


-rate up to a max of 5, to follow the same guidelines as 'infinite rate' so to speak.


All the other bonuses still apply.


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I'll update the thread later tonight.
 
I need some help with writing out the charm. I really don't want to create a very concise list but I have no idea how to make it more specific. So far, I'm thinking of having imposed unnatural traits such as Wyld Mutations, shaping effects, derangements, being able to be targeted by the flames. But it will only work with the consent of the afflicted person.
 
You need to keep in mind the theme and overall goal of the charm, if your intention is to unmask falsehoods, use that Awareness charm from Solars as basis, Unconquered Eye of the Sun, be concise on what you want to get and how it might work. Unfortunately vague mechanics are the worst kind of mechanics, since they leave plenty of holes for cheating and they tend to be overpowered, the best mechanics are the ones that everyone understands clearly and leave no room for misinterpretation or bending of the rules.
 
[QUOTE="Seeker of the End]He was inwardly frowning, 'Do they not recognize her? I would think that Yu-Shan would be looking for her after her imprisonment. But they don't even seem to care!' Inwardly, the azure flames of his wrath within his heart howled for the briefest of seconds before he calmed himself with his cold will. No, he couldn't incinerate them all while they stood for not even seeming to care about Isli at all. No, he couldn't execute them for not doing anything about Isli. But they better have a hell of a good reason why they stopped looking.

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Someone's in for a rude awakening ;-) Or possibly manipulative distractions.
 
Realizing for the first time just what a cold, uncaring, ineffectual machine Yu-Shan really is hurts. The sheer number of atrocities comitted by the first age solars is also quite the slap in the face. And that's without taking into account what an individual sidereal may have to do with any cause the Bureaucracy actually chose to care about.
 
Well, it will just be another piece of evidence in Xentair's judgment. Here's the current count progress of the judgment that is his motivation: Are the Solars worthy of ruling Creation once more?


1: Tyris' experimentation and warping (-)


2: Isli's imprisonment (-)


3: The overthrow of the Primordials (-)


(overthrown and being castrated solely for the games of divinity although the crimes they commit later on balance this out, sort of)


4: Lack of caring on Yu-Shan's behalf (-)
 
Not that I mind a spirited opposition, but how is Yu-Shan's behavior these past 1500 years the solars' fault? And how are the crimes of past solars those of current solars?
 
Gbat, does my character know that Hecate is wrecking shit up and we need to gather every exalt we can get her hands on to stop her?
 
No worries. My thought was the action would happen between the two places. Ah well, nothing to help for it.
 
Well it's fine. I didn't expect everybody to rush to Rathess first. But to be fair, among both choices,taking out Filial Wisdom and then negotiating with Rakshi is a reasonable choice.
 
Yeah... at this point, I'm worried about missing the fight. Hopefully Raksi can whip us up some transport...
 
Goddamnbatman remind me how often I get my Past Life uses renewed, every thread?


As for unfreezing the DK, I meet the occult requirement, but not the other two. Do I need spend two uses to be allowed to roll, or just one?
 
@Seeker of the End,Goddamnbatman


1.Regarding recent Seeker declaration, isn't he supposed to pierce my disguise first and it should involve charm activation (probably not only on my PC because it raises question why only my PC) and then contest


2. (@Seeker) Does our PC meet in hell? Verlan was there for only 3 months(but no during calibration). I need it to decide if I recognize Xentair or not. I'm leaving to you to decide if our PC's met in hell.


Besides aren't you hurrying too much? My cover will fail it's only question of when. So unless you as player are emotionally involved in 'piercing lies of my PC' and just must do it, please slow down and allow things to develop normally.
 
1. at least an opposed check would be reasonable in that case, considering how powerful LSD/ESD are. There are some solar charms which pierce such disguises but they are usually much higher essence.


2. guess it would depend on you guys how you met etc...
 
You know of me though, I blatantly announced myself at the Callibration thing. I'm not really sure about the details about your charms and I never encountered a roll-off before. How does this work?
 
I believe a roll off is usually done by Essence rolls. (Especially in the case of most things that had no roll to create such as LSD.)
 
Esbilon


Suhiko can't see Crow. She can probably guess he's there by that unbearably creepy sensation that someone is present and since he was with them right until she and the Count entered the Temple, but she has no means of perceiving him.
 
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