First Age Boxset?

[Cthulhu_Wakes]

Zum Teufel' date=' dammit! [/quote']
You called my name, mortal?

If you're Satan, I'm disappointed.

After seeing your first age character concept I know you expected something more emo, but sadly the world is not always as we expect and you will have to live with it ^^

Emo? No, you're just without the pinache or charm I dream of Satan having. That fucker wants my soul, he needs to be smooth, you're just pissy, arrogant and "I'm better than wordman" most of the time. Not really what I want from a fallen archangel.

 

[Alabaster Anathema]

uh for the most part probably going to play the First Age incarnation of my current Solar Exalt to play out what happened between him and his sidereal wifey


btw cant wait for the bigger creation map

 

[Persell]

Edit: Meh, you are so not worth fighting.

 

[Cthulhu_Wakes]

Fighting? Nah, just giving you a clear opinion, my boy.

 

[Samiel]

Indeed.

 

[Persell]

Edited away.

 

[Jukashi]

... Huh. Well, by the laws of the internet, Safim, I must declare that you have lost this discussion.

 

[Persell]

... Huh. Well, by the laws of the internet, Safim, I must declare that you have lost this discussion.

Huh, personal attacks? I just stated my clear opinion.

 

[Jukashi]

Yes, but you did so almost directly after saying that he was "not worth fighting". Doing that in the first place is not good (people will assume that you ran out of arguments/wit/creativity, not that you're telling the truth), but then you went back on it, which makes people think you're hypocritical.


And, of course, you elevated the remarks. CW was just talking about your behaviour on the forum, but yours went on into real-life behaviour (and they were about subjects which may be particularly sore emotionally), which is not good, because one only attacks someone's internet persona while the other is more emotionally lethal, as it were. So as far as the rules of conduct of arguments on the internet goes, you lost, because the manner in which you comported yourself would make people who weren't even involved dislike you.

 

[Persell]

Thing is, he needlessly attacked me out of the blue. First I did not bother to respond with a defense, honestly, he is just some dude on the internet and I am not holding grudges or anything. I can fight with wordman on one day and compliment him on his well written blog the other day, as seen in the Off-Topic Forum. Then he started being belittling and I decided that he needed a "stop here" sign.


So, to summarize, after an unprovoked attack of his I gave him a chance to back down which he did not take.


Edit: If I am not answering for a while in case you reply jukashi then it is not meant to be disrespectful, I am just going to have some busy weeks, which is another reason I was reluctant to start this in the first place. But I suppose CW will have his writing to keep himself company while I am away.

 

[Jukashi]

Thing is, he needlessly attacked me out of the blue. First I did not bother to respond with a defense, honestly, he is just some dude on the internet and I am not holding grudges or anything. I can fight with wordman on one day and compliment him on his well written blog the other day, as seen in the Off-Topic Forum. Then he started being belittling and I decided that he needed a "stop here" sign.
So, to summarize, after an unprovoked attack of his I gave him a chance to back down which he did not take.

You were of course within your rights to respond, however the same rule that applies in real-life self-defense applies here, i.e. minimum required force. However, you upped the ante by referring to personal problems, and as well as making yourself look bad by "sinking lower" than your opponent had done, you also invited the commencement of an escalating flame war cycle.


Also: if you're going to insult someone who's right there watching, don't do it obliquely (referring to them in the third person, for example); it just makes you look arrogant and/or cowardly. Say whatever you have to say directly.

 

[Persell]

Thing is, he needlessly attacked me out of the blue. First I did not bother to respond with a defense, honestly, he is just some dude on the internet and I am not holding grudges or anything. I can fight with wordman on one day and compliment him on his well written blog the other day, as seen in the Off-Topic Forum. Then he started being belittling and I decided that he needed a "stop here" sign.
So, to summarize, after an unprovoked attack of his I gave him a chance to back down which he did not take.

You were of course within your rights to respond, however the same rule that applies in real-life self-defense applies here, i.e. minimum required force. However, you upped the ante by referring to personal problems, and as well as making yourself look bad by "sinking lower" than your opponent had done, you also invited the commencement of an escalating flame war cycle.

As a matter of fact real life self defense is not limited to minimum force, at least not in germany as long as you do not abuse the spirit of the law by for example shooting children which steal cherries from a tree.


This is of course a technicality and I do not intend to hide behind such statements.


This naturally is a matter of perspective but I do not see myself sinking any lower than my opponent, he insisted on continuing even after I let him off the hook for the first time (yes I repeat myself, it was just the core motivation so in my eyes, it is worth repeating) which is already pretty low and he used lighthearted banter to drive something mean home out of the blue.


I know, that this will not satisfy your sense of justice, but to be frank it satisfies mine and as you were not speaking up when he chose to attack me unjustly I do not consider you the right person to make any judgments.  If you want higher discussion standards, then I will kindly ask you to apply them to everyone and not just to some people, out of whatever reason.

 

[Jukashi]

CW did drop those remarks out of nowhere, yes, but as both of you have said, those were opinions; and, as you said, you were able to disregard them. The remarks your responded with were not opinions, but based on previous testimony and evidence, and so would of course naturally strike harder.


Take an example. Let's say you were in a car accident while driving a few years ago, in which your mother, who was a passenger, died. Now, let's say you walk up to me and say "You're stupid". I disregard this, as any reasonable adult should. But if I replied "At least I can drive a car without commiting matricide", that would be a terrible thing to say. Obviously this case isn't so bad, but the same principle applies.


People drop unthinking insults like CW did all the time - I should know, since I've been targeted by many such comments, often by people who I've never met before. And I have noticed a bit of a tendancy in you before now to be snarky, so I thought I should tell you what I thought about the matter. Which is, essentially: you overreacted.

 

[Persell]

You have convinced me. I edited them away and in case you read them already CW:


I apology sincerely, it was not a proper reaction I made.

 

[Samiel]

The maiden of serenity sleeps well tonight.


That said, she sleeps well every night.

 

[Cthulhu_Wakes]

Seeing as I only roll around these forums in the PM I never saw the originals. So accepted I suppose?

 

[Alabaster Anathema]

I like the maiden of serenity


im going to take her out for a fish dinner

 

[Sherwood]

Mmmmm, fish.  Tasty.

 

[Haku1]

I kind of like Pasi's Saturn... ;

 

[Alabaster Anathema]

so has anyone heard and News on the boxset


i was kinda hoping they would have some tidbits already up on the site but apparently they do not


The "Now Your a Solar" brochure should be awesome to

 

[Arthur]

The box set is on the online store for preorder already.


Does that count as news?

 

[Persell]

Question I need to ask SOMEONE ...


In the First age... how regulated do you think learning higher circle sorcerry was.


I think that... at least until the deliberative was THOROUGHLY mad... They probaly kept close tabs on ANYTONE Capable of Summoning 3rd circle demons and I think (hope) it was illegal without a special dispensation directly from the deliberative...

 

[Ledaal Kajiri]

I wouldn't be so sure. Wonders of the Lost Age mentions that some were hooking their minds up to such and letting them do half their thinking for them, to get new ideas. If people are doing something like that...

 

[Dracogryff]

Well, we already know that the Solars were batshit crazy, so what's a few third circle demons among friends? Of course...you can only summon one a year, during calibration...so that's a limiter. There's also the difficulty of a finite number of them...wonder how many years in advance you'd need to schedule your summoning of Ligier to be sure you didn't get a busy signal...

 

[Flagg]

That's an interesting thought. I also wonder if there were any taboos against binding 2nd and 3rd circle demons to indefinite tasks.


I mean, if you summoned Ligier and bound him to knit sweaters until the end of eternity, I bet all the other sorcerors with need of his services would be mightily pissed at you.