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Well the vale would have had to have good farming land. They pretty much had to sustain themselves during the war of the five kings.


As for the westerlands, they probably had the money to hire experts to come and help cultivate their land someway.



Rationing and storing enough food away for a few years is one thing, being self sustaining and still have growth?  Idk, maybe I'm having this wrong, but I feel like the only provinces that could self sustain are the ones without the hills and mountains and snow, while the Riverlands and Reach are the only ones that can produce enough to export for a profit.
 
Well the vale also didn't have to sustain a army in the field, which requires huge amounts of food, so advantage them. As well, they have enough coast line that if they had a small fleet, they could aid themselves with fishing. If they are as clever as the central American societies years ago, they could have devwloped mountain gardens.
 
Well the vale also didn't have to sustain a army in the field, which requires huge amounts of food, so advantage them. As well, they have enough coast line that if they had a small fleet, they could aid themselves with fishing. If they are as clever as the central American societies years ago, they could have devwloped mountain gardens.



True, but then again, developing mountain gardens requires not having at least ten thousand wild men threatening to kill off/kidnap and rape your workers every time they go out to work.  I agree with the fishing though, yet I personally feel they would need to rely on importing of foodstuffs to some critical capacity in order to continue to live and grow.
 
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Are you alright with the creation of Lord Rogare?  He would mostly be with the Blackfyre and his time in Essos could just be off screen and explained.

You can make a head of the Rogare family if you'd like. I had previously mentioned that Rogare married into the Targaryen family through the youngest Princess, but I can retcon that if you'd like.
 
You can make a head of the Rogare family if you'd like. I had previously mentioned that Rogare married into the Targaryen family through the youngest Princess, but I can retcon that if you'd like.

Maybe one of his sons could have married the princess or something?
 

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