Bastion of the North citing Book of the Three Circles???

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Anyone else notice on pg 31 of bastions of the north there is a reference to the spell Light of Solar Cleansing and it says see book of the three circles page 72??


I looked in sorcerer and Savant and it definitely is a reference to book of the three cirlces not a typo because page 72 is about Demons in SS.  


This to me seems like a pretty big error to reference a book that has been out of print for almost a year now.  Are they planning to bring it back in 2nd Ed?
 
Doubtful they'd bring it back- AND have the same page number for that specific reference.


Does S&S contain a description of the spell?  Maybe it ONLY appears in Bo3C.


Sorry, I'm at work and don't have the book in front of me.
 
As far as I can scan with my pdf files S&S doesnt' contain a reference to the spell so it is posisble that BoTC is the only book in existance that does, but it would seem to me that they should figure out some way to put a more updated reference since BoTC is out of print who knows if someone actually owns a copy.  It seems to give the dynamics of the spell in the text as it applies to the situation though.
 
The Bo3C was never declared obsolete. It's simply out of print. I don't see anything wrong with referrencing it, or any other out-of-print book.


-S
 
Agreed, as well as spells, there are a number of artifacts and hearthstones that have been left out of S&S that are in Bo3C, and they are still viable.


~FC.
 
Yeah' date=' like thunderbolt shields, which are SICK.[/quote']
I've still got to make a character worth a damn before I could ever consider granting them access to the Thunderbolt Shield.


I'm slowly working on it though


~FC.
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Stillborn said:
The Bo3C was never declared obsolete. It's simply out of print. I don't see anything wrong with referrencing it, or any other out-of-print book.
-S
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Not in so many words, but there's a blurb in Savant and Sorcerer that says it essentially replaces Bo3C. Of course, if the spell isn't in Savant and Sorcerer, then it's another matter.


And WW hasn't necessarily done a good job of translation. They forgot to put the duration in for Cobras of Smoke (I don't know the entire name, don't have the material here at work) as well as contradict themselves. And I haven't even finished reading it yet (just got the book).
 
Stillborn said:
The Bo3C was never declared obsolete. It's simply out of print. I don't see anything wrong with referrencing it, or any other out-of-print book.
-S
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To me referencing an out of print book after you have a written a book that you have stated replaces the prior book is bad.  Because to me it means that the out of print book has information in it that you see valuable but not valuable enough to keep the book in print or place the info in your new book.


What bugs me is that the book says nothing about ht emechanics leaving you to find the mechanics by searching for an out of print book, which sucks imo if you don't own the book, unless you are cool with pirating a copy of the pdf, or unless it is sold in a pdf version, which it might be.  If there is a pdf version then my grip will be gone.


The grip comes down to requiring me to find a hard to find book in order to completely understand what the paragraph in the book was talking about and use it in a game.
 
Actually, you can get a pdf copy of the book at DriveThruRPG. Here's the link:


http://www.drivethrurpg.com


They're a good place for out of print material. It's all pdf, but if you really want the book, you can get it.


Cheers.
 
What I think the issue essentially boils down to is an error.  I currently own every Exalted book that has ever been printed with the exception of Comic #0 (all the core books, all the supplemental books, all the novels, etc...) and I will reference anything that has been printed according to the latest updated materials.  I'm certain that the folks at White Wolf, while they are writing these sourcebooks, are not completely mindful of the notion that a book is out of print or has been "replaced".  They probably pull a book down off the shelf and say, "This is what I want to use", quote the material and then put the book back.  It's certainly what I'd do, since I have access to all of the books.


'Sides, can't you find the book on eBay or through a used book vendor?
 
Yes, but that's what editors are for. Whilst I agree that authors may not know a book is out of print, the editor certainly should. That's part of his job. But then, White Wolf's editing staff isn't the most sterling....


:-)
 
Bodhisattva said:
'Sides, can't you find the book on eBay or through a used book vendor?
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I actually do own the book, and I think I have it in digital somewhere.  I did exactly as you suggested and bought it off ebay about 2 years ago.


And since drivethru games has it online like I said my grip is less valid as in print and out of print have little meaning when you have a digital version of a book available.
 
I had the same complaint with GoD.  the book was out of print and about every other book i bought ref. back to it.  I ended up getting a .PDF version.  You look for how much GoD can go for on auction sites.  I've seen it climb over US$100.
 
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