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[hudhouse]

Yes, however with that, we're comparing two OP characters. That's no excuse for giving a character nigh invincibility and near infinite power.

Actually... Augustus does have a plan to increase his defenses and magic even further because of how terrified he is of Laxus and the Phoenix Force xD

 

[Pyosimros]

Now Augustus however, does get a free pass since you're using him as an enemy

 

[Field Marshall]

It's all apart of my plan but there is something I should have specified there

 

[Archon]

Odin Force, Phoenix Force, Thanos powers... *Sighs*


Fine...


I see how it is...


Everyone gets ridiculous powers.


Fine...


*Joseph obliviously lifts a pretty gauntlet* "Woah, I bet this is worth something!" *Puts on gauntlet*


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[hudhouse]

Odin Force, Phoenix Force, Thanos powers... *Sighs*
Fine...


I see how it is...


Everyone gets ridiculous powers.


Fine...


*Joseph obliviously lifts a pretty gauntlet* "Woah, I bet this is worth something!" *Puts on gauntlet*


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That's also why the event is mostly supposed to be on morals, politics and a invasion or two.

 

[Archon]

That's also why the event is mostly supposed to be on morals, politics and a invasion or two.

It doesn't really matter what it's on. With you three being so damn powerful the rest of us are really insignificant in comparison.

 

[Loony_Bin]

My thing is Gus is a villain, somebody whose power is ultimately borrowed, and as such can be returned.


Jordan and Laxus are HEROES actual people that we're supposed to work with. Why is it they are gods while the rest of us are ants under their boots?! It doesn't make sense, I understand that the Phoenix Force and Odin's power are actually things, but there's no drawback to either, so it makes it so that both characters have an unfair advantage fighting anyone!


There needs to be limits, a way to beat them, otherwise going against them is pointless

 

[Field Marshall]

Actually Odinforce has a drawback which is Odinsleep

 

[Loony_Bin]

Actually Odinforce has a drawback which is Odinsleep

But are you gonna use Odinsleep?!


Are you actually gonna have Laxus sleep?!


And even if you did, that's still not enough! So he kills every threat known to man and then has to take a nap? There at the very least needs to be something wrong with the character! That way he can be defeated!


Even Doom, in his most powerful moments was able to be defeated due to his arrogance and doubt, there's NOTHING like that for Laxus that you have even hinted at

 

[Field Marshall]

But are you gonna use Odinsleep?!
Are you actually gonna have Laxus sleep?!


And even if you did, that's still not enough! So he kills every threat known to man and then has to take a nap? There at the very least needs to be something wrong with the character! That way he can be defeated!


Even Doom, in his most powerful moments was able to be defeated due to his arrogance and doubt, there's NOTHING like that for Laxus that you have even hinted at

Actually yes I did, you guys just been skipping over it constantly since the beginning. Read his personality and his weakness section.

 

[Archon]

I think we just need limits. Any hero going beyond Thor-level is unfair on the rest of the heroes, and the roleplay as a whole.


I think any villain who is past planet-busting level is also over the top.


Can Laxus have the Odin Force? Sure, but he can only use a limited amount. Can Augustus have Thanos-ability? Sure, a limited amount. Same goes for Jordan.


This simple thing just makes it easier for the more casual heroes, whilst taking nothing away from your characters since you're all the strongest still by far. The problem with how they are now is lets face it; they're Gary Stu's.


@Newtype Can Laxus one-shot all the heroes? Yes. Oh, but it's okay, he has a weakness; he has to go to sleep?


P.S @CasualDragon I want to see Smasher evolve, Hulk is amazingly powerful, I want Finn to be the same. :3

 

[Loony_Bin]

Actually yes I did, you guys just been skipping over it constantly since the beginning. Read his personality and his weakness section.

So you're telling me...His weaknesses are a gender and something he can CHOSE not to do because he has OTHER POWERS!!!


That's not balance, that doesn't make it alright!

 

[Loony_Bin]

I think we just need limits. Any hero going beyond Thor-level is unfair on the rest of the heroes, and the roleplay as a whole.
I think any villain who is past planet-busting level is also over the top.


Can Laxus have the Odin Force? Sure, but he can only use a limited amount. Can Augustus have Thanos-ability? Sure, a limited amount. Same goes for Jordan.


This simple thing just makes it easier for the more casual heroes, whilst taking nothing away from your characters since you're all the strongest still by far. The problem with how they are now is lets face it; they're Gary Stu's.


@Newtype Can Laxus one-shot all the heroes? Yes. Oh, but it's okay, he has a weakness; he has to go to sleep?


P.S @CasualDragon I want to see Smasher evolve, Hulk is amazingly powerful, I want Finn to be the same. :3

I don't think it's even necessarily that...


If we're looking at villains, they be as powerful as they want, as long as there's a way to defeat them that would be something the heroes know/can figure out.


I think what you said is a good idea for the heroes though...

 

[Archon]

I don't think it's even necessarily that...
If we're looking at villains, they be as powerful as they want, as long as there's a way to defeat them that would be something the heroes know/can figure out.


I think what you said is a good idea for the heroes though...

I disagree, if Villains can have no-limits, every villain, will be a universal villain.


I miss the earlier days of street-level brawling, Ultron, Massacre, Fenrir. No planet smashing, nor ultra-magic. Having so many overpowered villains takes the joy away from fighting them. If every single Avengers movie was against a Thanos-level opponent, nobody would care about the actual Thanos battle.

 

[CasualDragon]

I want to make Finn more powerfull too. He's actually going to teach himself fighting skills during the next time skip. My one problem isI'm not sure how much power for him to have before he becomes too OP. Hulk has unbreakable skin, but since that would almost give him immortality in Hulk form I made it so that his skin is tough and most stuff won't make it through but if you persist than you can get through it to make things fair. During the fight with Augustus Finn was almost useless because without his full power he's the same as a buff man with body paint . But I have been wondering just how much more power I can give him in terms of fighting and stuff before he becomes almost invincible


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[Field Marshall]

So you're telling me...His weaknesses are a gender and something he can CHOSE not to do because he has OTHER POWERS!!!
That's not balance, that doesn't make it alright!

That's pretty much what I am saying, that's all I will say

 

[Archon]

Well, that's hard to gauge, since Hulk's power isn't a solid thing; Smasher's neither, I'd say maybe a little below Massacre at normal level, but way tougher at an enraged level. Smasher realistically should be the most powerful after the God-club and maybe slightly below Eldkatla.


(although we all saw how Hulk handled Loki, so I'm not too sure...)


@CasualDragon @Lemoncakes

 

[Archon]

That's pretty much what I am saying, that's all I will say

You're saying even though your character is unfairly overpowered with no credible weaknesses you don't care, and refuse to even try and listen to what we're saying?

 

[Lemoncakes]

@Archon @CasualDragon Yeah, I'd say they'd be closer to equal, just with strengths in different areas, after all Loki was still very smug before the Hulk metaphorically and literally crushed him


But I always try not to play too powerful of a character, it just gets boring, how are you supposed to physically and emotionally destroy them if they're untouchable?

 

[Archon]

@Archon @CasualDragon Yeah, I'd say they'd be closer to equal, just with strengths in different areas, after all Loki was still very smug before the Hulk metaphorically and literally crushed him
But I always try not to play too powerful of a character, it just gets boring, how are you supposed to physically and emotionally destroy them if they're untouchable?

I try, but I can't help it.


Joseph's just too strong... ;-;

 

[Field Marshall]

You're saying even though your character is unfairly overpowered with no credible weaknesses you don't care, and refuse to even try and listen to what we're saying?

I am saying agree to disagree because we will only go in circles

 

[Archon]

I am saying agree to disagree because we will only go in circles

Can I ask - honestly - why are you so opposed to NOT being so powerful?


Why do you have to be this ultimate God, who can squash the whole world if he wanted?


Why can't you try to see such a character is slightly unfair on all those of us who aren't an ultimate God?

 

[Lemoncakes]

I try, but I can't help it.
Joseph's just too strong... ;-;

Well get your act together! You.. You..


Ooohhh... I can't be mean, I feel too bad for upsetting Joseph

 

[Archon]

Well get your act together! You.. You..
Ooohhh... I can't be mean, I feel too bad for upsetting Joseph

Yeah, no.


You had your chance for the Dangerous Duo!


But you just HAD to shatter his poor, fragile heart!


(:'()

 

[Field Marshall]

Can I ask - honestly - why are you so opposed to NOT being so powerful?
Why do you have to be this ultimate God, who can squash the whole world if he wanted?


Why can't you try to see such a character is slightly unfair on all those of us who aren't an ultimate God?

These are infact all powers that Thor has wielded, you said anything above Thor level is unfair technically these are Thor level powers.


Also the opponents we face are more or less, are in the Ultimate God range as well


I do see it can be unfair to the "non - ultimate God Club" but there are countless examples of series where weaker characters are overshadowed by the stronger ones but the weaker characters get in plenty of shine and action as well.