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It was a jest, though the idea of our descendants playing this game in our stead sounds interesting, if only in the least.
Prim & Proper
The Turnip Knight
Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):
The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):
Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy
Two other major cities:
Arretia, Caisra
Population Size (Estimate if you need):
Mostly unknown (I looked in quite a few places), but I'd be willing to guess a couple million perhaps, reaching towards 4 million, 5 at best, or lower (considering there were 150-170 million people living in the world at this time), but we are quite an old and prosperous civilization.
Government Type:
The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):
We're sometimes known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.
Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze, Arms & Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
The Etruscans have a very long military tradition, have taken quite a bit of tips from the Greek, and are equipped with the following (mostly estimation):
UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN
UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS
300,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx
100,000 Javelin-Hurlers
150,000 Bowmen
65,000 Swordsmen
45,000 Chariot-Archers
150 Ballistae
100 Catapults
50 Siege Towers
NAVY:
50 Ramming/Boarding Ships
35 Archer Ships
(quite simple actually)
WELP THAT'S IT HOPE YOU ACCEPT HA~
The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):
Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy
Two other major cities:
Arretia, Caisra
Population Size (Estimate if you need):
Mostly unknown (I looked in quite a few places), but I'd be willing to guess a couple million perhaps, reaching towards 4 million, 5 at best, or lower (considering there were 150-170 million people living in the world at this time), but we are quite an old and prosperous civilization.
Government Type:
The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):
We're sometimes known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.
Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze, Arms & Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
The Etruscans have a very long military tradition, have taken quite a bit of tips from the Greek, and are equipped with the following (mostly estimation):
UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN
UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS
300,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx
100,000 Javelin-Hurlers
150,000 Bowmen
65,000 Swordsmen
45,000 Chariot-Archers
150 Ballistae
100 Catapults
50 Siege Towers
NAVY:
50 Ramming/Boarding Ships
35 Archer Ships
(quite simple actually)
WELP THAT'S IT HOPE YOU ACCEPT HA~
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
I think you have vastly overestimated both the size of the Etruscan Leagues population and military. The Italian Peninsula as a whole at this time had possibly 2 million people from the alps to the tip of the peninsula at this time and militaries rarely exceed 5% of the nations population unless it is a very strong warrior or nomadic culture.
Sorry for popping in again, I'm sure the people running this could have handled this but I've got itchy fingers I guess. Again I apologize and I'll definitely refrain next time.
Prim & Proper
The Turnip Knight
Thank you kindly for correcting me. I was wondering about the population. I suppose just pretend everything I said is like 3/5 less~
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
Not a lot of people really look into the times of antiquity so trust me, I don't blame you for not being able to give an accurate guess of a population or military size. If you look at the person who made the roman republic on page 1 that would likely be roughly the same for you.
Just remember that the Persian Empire stretched from western india to modern day Turkey and Egypt and it only had an estimated population of around 20 to 25 million and they had some of the largest cities in the world at the time.
Prim & Proper
The Turnip Knight
Alright, I suppose I'll RP with those numbers then. By the way, if you're interested in historical RP's, I have an RP called Knights & Turnips located in the 1 on 1 section of RP's, you might wanna check it out~
It's my first RP on here, so just saying.
*shameless plug shameless plug*
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general ostruppen
General Ostruppen
Kingdom: Macedonia
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Pella
Two other major cities: Dion, Pydna
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 690,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): Are a militaristic kingdom that still have the tactics used by Alexander the great. They have fought in plains, hills, mountains, deserts, and at sea. They still have a majority of the experienced soldiers that have been from alexander's campaign.
Main Exports: Pottery, fish, and copper
Army Size:
99,000 in total:
9,000 companions
3,000 Hypaspists
44,000 hoplites
18,000 peltast
14,000 archers
300 gastraphetes (crossbow men and yes this is legit)
1,200 Companion cavalry
3,300 Thessalian cavalry
6,000 light cavalry
Navy:
5,000 sailors
122 triremes
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Pella
Two other major cities: Dion, Pydna
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 690,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): Are a militaristic kingdom that still have the tactics used by Alexander the great. They have fought in plains, hills, mountains, deserts, and at sea. They still have a majority of the experienced soldiers that have been from alexander's campaign.
Main Exports: Pottery, fish, and copper
Army Size:
99,000 in total:
9,000 companions
3,000 Hypaspists
44,000 hoplites
18,000 peltast
14,000 archers
300 gastraphetes (crossbow men and yes this is legit)
1,200 Companion cavalry
3,300 Thessalian cavalry
6,000 light cavalry
Navy:
5,000 sailors
122 triremes
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Pman
Junior Member
You're good
Lower your population, and your entire army is a mess. You have much less troops and not as many war machines. I'd say cutting back about 2/3s or so would make that acceptable
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
Forgot to respond to this. The Odrysian Kingdom seperated from Macedonia just like all of its previously conquered lands due to Alexander's death. When Alexander died' Macedonia was reduced to it's origional size, possibly slightly larger, but this is a topic that has been debated by scholars about if they still held onto a few of the city states south of them or if they didn't really have the strength at the time to really control them.
Lordvader59
Three Thousand Club
That will happen very soon after the RP starts.
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): Satrapy of Babylonia
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Babylon
Two other major cities: Ashur and Nippur
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 400,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): Mesopotamia is located in the fertile crescent. The Soldiers are also experienced in combat as they were once the soldiers of Alexander the Great. They learned tactics and formations from Macedonia.
Main Exports: Grain, oil, textiles
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
Infantry
Soldiers-29,250
Archers-3,250
Total-32,500
Cavalry
Armored Cavalry-3,250
Un-Armored Cavalry-8,450
Total-11,700
Specials
Onagers/Catapults-12
Ballistae-7
Total-19
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): Babylon
Two other major cities: Ashur and Nippur
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 400,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): Mesopotamia is located in the fertile crescent. The Soldiers are also experienced in combat as they were once the soldiers of Alexander the Great. They learned tactics and formations from Macedonia.
Main Exports: Grain, oil, textiles
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
Infantry
Soldiers-29,250
Archers-3,250
Total-32,500
Cavalry
Armored Cavalry-3,250
Un-Armored Cavalry-8,450
Total-11,700
Specials
Onagers/Catapults-12
Ballistae-7
Total-19
Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: Seleucid Empire
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): from Lydia in western Anatolia through the Middle East (including Syria, Phoenicia, and Mesopotamia), and Armenia, towards the farthest eastern reaches of the empire, through Media and Persia and over to Bactria. Capital is Babylon
Two other major cities: Bactra and Damascus
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 4,000,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): The Seleucid's are experienced warrior as they were from Alexander's Army. King Seleucus I was a general of Alexander.
Main Exports :Iron, fruits, and Ceramics
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
Infantry
Argyraspides- [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The principle guard infantry of the Seleucid army was the 'Silver-Shields', or Argyraspides. They were armed in the Macedonian manner with a sarissa and fought in the phalanx formation, much like the other Hellenistic armies of the time.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The Argyraspides were probably a corps of about 25,000 men[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Chrysaspides(Golden Shields)-15,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Chalkaspides(Bronze Shields)-5,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Bowmen/Archers- 5,000[/COLOR]
Cavalry
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Unlike the more westerly powers, like the Romans and other Greek states, where infantry dominated the battlefield, in the 'vast spaces to the east, the horse cultures were more influential'.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Speed and mobility were the key, especially when dealing with foes like the Parthians and the Graeco-Bactrians. The Parthian style of warfare was based around heavily armoured cavalrymen, Cataphracts, and horse archers, which were used in hit and run style tactics.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The Seleucid cavalry, after the introduction of the Cataphract, can be sub-divided into several categories. Firstly, there were the heavy cavalry of which there were Kataphraktoi (armoured) and Aphraktoi (unarmoured). The Aphraktoi were divided into two groups, lancer and missile troops. [/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Kataphraktoi- 5,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Aphraktoi-13,000[/COLOR]
Special
50 War Elephants
30 Ballistae
50 Onagers/Catapults
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): from Lydia in western Anatolia through the Middle East (including Syria, Phoenicia, and Mesopotamia), and Armenia, towards the farthest eastern reaches of the empire, through Media and Persia and over to Bactria. Capital is Babylon
Two other major cities: Bactra and Damascus
Population Size (Estimate if you need): 4,000,000
Government Type: Monarchy
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): The Seleucid's are experienced warrior as they were from Alexander's Army. King Seleucus I was a general of Alexander.
Main Exports :Iron, fruits, and Ceramics
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
Infantry
Argyraspides- [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The principle guard infantry of the Seleucid army was the 'Silver-Shields', or Argyraspides. They were armed in the Macedonian manner with a sarissa and fought in the phalanx formation, much like the other Hellenistic armies of the time.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The Argyraspides were probably a corps of about 25,000 men[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Chrysaspides(Golden Shields)-15,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Chalkaspides(Bronze Shields)-5,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Bowmen/Archers- 5,000[/COLOR]
Cavalry
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Unlike the more westerly powers, like the Romans and other Greek states, where infantry dominated the battlefield, in the 'vast spaces to the east, the horse cultures were more influential'.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Speed and mobility were the key, especially when dealing with foes like the Parthians and the Graeco-Bactrians. The Parthian style of warfare was based around heavily armoured cavalrymen, Cataphracts, and horse archers, which were used in hit and run style tactics.[/COLOR] [COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]The Seleucid cavalry, after the introduction of the Cataphract, can be sub-divided into several categories. Firstly, there were the heavy cavalry of which there were Kataphraktoi (armoured) and Aphraktoi (unarmoured). The Aphraktoi were divided into two groups, lancer and missile troops. [/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Kataphraktoi- 5,000[/COLOR]
[COLOR= rgb(37, 37, 37)]Aphraktoi-13,000[/COLOR]
Special
50 War Elephants
30 Ballistae
50 Onagers/Catapults
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AdmiralKerkov
A Navy Man
Incorrect, it was partially led by regents until the fracturing of states during the 310s BC. It was sepereated into semi-autnomous satrapies, but they were still incorporated territories of Macedonia. The Odrysian kingdom however was a client state of Macedonia, it could declare it's autonomy from Macedonia, but the Macedonians would, at this time, be able to crush such an insurgency without a heart beat unless the Macedonians weaken and the Odrysians start building up.
AdmiralKerkov
A Navy Man
Depends on the time scale.
general ostruppen
General Ostruppen
I'm Macedonia so "HIIIIIII"
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
You're right, forgot to account for the regency of one of Alexander's generals after his death that lasted just a few years past where we are now. Luckily however, breaking away shouldn't be that hard when it becomes the cool thing to do.
AdmiralKerkov
A Navy Man
Depends on the competency of the leader of Macedonia, @general ostruppen, otherwise it's going to be a wild middle East.
general ostruppen
General Ostruppen
Well we will see how I somehow keep the remnants together.
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
Never @general ostruppen
general ostruppen
General Ostruppen
which ancient nation are youuu?
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
Check above
Leusis
Two Thousand Club
When is this supposed to be starting?
Lordvader59
Three Thousand Club
Um... turn 1 is open?
Prim & Proper
The Turnip Knight
Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):
The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):
Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy
Two other major cities:
Arretia, Caisra
Population Size (Estimate if you need):
As a total re-estimation, I'd go for maybe 700,000 men at most, as the most generous estimate. 450,000 to 500,000 at least.
Government Type:
The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):
We're sometimes known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.
Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze, Arms & Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
The Etruscans have a very long military tradition, have taken quite a bit of tips from the Greek, and are equipped with the following (mostly estimation):
UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN
UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS
Total: 80,050 men
45,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx
10,000 Javelin-Hurlers
15,000 Bowmen
6,000 Swordsmen
4,000 Chariot-Archers
25 Ballistae
20 Catapults
5 Siege Towers
NAVY:
50 Ramming/Boarding Ships
35 Archer Ships
(quite simple actually)
The Etruscan League/Etruscan Kingdom
Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):
Italy, Western/Northwestern Italy and then some of Southwestern Italy
Two other major cities:
Arretia, Caisra
Population Size (Estimate if you need):
As a total re-estimation, I'd go for maybe 700,000 men at most, as the most generous estimate. 450,000 to 500,000 at least.
Government Type:
The government of the Etruscan League isn't really specified, but I'd be willing to shoot for monarchy/empire, you know.
Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):
We're sometimes known for art, music, and having strong militaries - however, what we're primarily known for is being excellent at seafaring and trading, so much so that we were considered heavy competitors with the likes of Greece and Rome. It is said that we were so good at trading that the Greeks hired pirates to sink some of our vessels, though no one actually knows. We also have a very isolate language which not many people speak.
Main Exports: Grain, Pottery, Bronze, Arms & Armor, Wine, Timber, Iron
Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):
The Etruscans have a very long military tradition, have taken quite a bit of tips from the Greek, and are equipped with the following (mostly estimation):
UNITS WITH ADAPTED IRON ARMOR: HOPLITES, SWORDSMEN
UNITS WITH BRONZE ARMOR: JAVELIN-HURLERS, MEN MANNING BALLISTAE, CATAPULTS, AND SIEGE TOWERS
Total: 80,050 men
45,000 Hoplites - Capable of forming Phalanx
10,000 Javelin-Hurlers
15,000 Bowmen
6,000 Swordsmen
4,000 Chariot-Archers
25 Ballistae
20 Catapults
5 Siege Towers
NAVY:
50 Ramming/Boarding Ships
35 Archer Ships
(quite simple actually)
AdmiralKerkov
A Navy Man
Kent
Imagination will bring us everywhere
just waiting for somebody to make a post so I can copy their format