Worshipping the Celestial Incarna
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Dude just hand them the games of divinity
Jakk Bey
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D--So you can blow their little minds? Â Someone in the Celestial Bureacracy finally snaps and decides "That DOES it! Â Dragon Blooded are going to get their shit together, or there's going to be Heaven to pay"?
I suppose the question isn't so much that that they find evidence that the Celestial Order is a bit different than they've been led to believe, but where they find this "evidence."
In the tomb of some Anathema isn't going to be all that shocking. Â In some lost temple in the Threshold, surrounded by Anathema and those who piss on the Immaculate Order, not so shocking. Â
From the vaults of the IO, in the most sensitive and sacred of texts...tucked into the personal papers of a high ranking priest, along with a few documents that show the IO has been altering things, perhaps with notes in the margins from past priests on how they should handle these documents...maybe a bit more interesting. Â
Just because they find a document that runs counter to their ideas of how Heaven works, that's not so shocking. Â Finding it in your own clergy's hands, and commented on from credible sources, better.
Take a lesson from the Mormons. Â Every few years they "find" all sorts of documents that either back the claims of some of their factions, or alters an interpretation from another. Â Folks would like to call them outright forgeries--because, let's face it, ALL of the Mormon documents are outright fabrications, and the folks at the top of the heap know it--but since they've been backed up with a fabrications of their own, they have to approach it very carefully. Â Too much, and they tip over the whole load of wax, and that could be messy for all of them.
Better, to find heretical documents in your own church, and with some evidence that the higher ups are already aware of it, not just to cover it up or deny it, but perhaps even believe it themselves, but are taking a public stance to guarantee their own power--which might take some delicacy in how you handle that, because if you're too ham handed with it, it turns cartoonish, but with a little subtlety, it could be an interesting arc.
I suppose the question isn't so much that that they find evidence that the Celestial Order is a bit different than they've been led to believe, but where they find this "evidence."
In the tomb of some Anathema isn't going to be all that shocking. Â In some lost temple in the Threshold, surrounded by Anathema and those who piss on the Immaculate Order, not so shocking. Â
From the vaults of the IO, in the most sensitive and sacred of texts...tucked into the personal papers of a high ranking priest, along with a few documents that show the IO has been altering things, perhaps with notes in the margins from past priests on how they should handle these documents...maybe a bit more interesting. Â
Just because they find a document that runs counter to their ideas of how Heaven works, that's not so shocking. Â Finding it in your own clergy's hands, and commented on from credible sources, better.
Take a lesson from the Mormons. Â Every few years they "find" all sorts of documents that either back the claims of some of their factions, or alters an interpretation from another. Â Folks would like to call them outright forgeries--because, let's face it, ALL of the Mormon documents are outright fabrications, and the folks at the top of the heap know it--but since they've been backed up with a fabrications of their own, they have to approach it very carefully. Â Too much, and they tip over the whole load of wax, and that could be messy for all of them.
Better, to find heretical documents in your own church, and with some evidence that the higher ups are already aware of it, not just to cover it up or deny it, but perhaps even believe it themselves, but are taking a public stance to guarantee their own power--which might take some delicacy in how you handle that, because if you're too ham handed with it, it turns cartoonish, but with a little subtlety, it could be an interesting arc.
Flagg
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Jakk Bey
One Thousand Club
Yes.
When you base your religion on the teachings of MORON-i, how else can you take it? Â The man based his texts on 'impressions' on psychic translations of metal plates, that he supposedly never actually saw. Â Mormons are decent folks--at least most of the ones I know--and they live decent lives, do for others, but it doesn't change the fact that they've based their faith on the mutterings of a huckster and his cronies.
Not that it's much different than Scientology, modern day Wicca, or a bunch of other religions who have fairly obvious huckster beginnings--like modern "Satanism" as a fer'instance--but come on: Moroni? Â
Might as well have a Saint Ain'tyouadumbass while you're at it...
When you base your religion on the teachings of MORON-i, how else can you take it? Â The man based his texts on 'impressions' on psychic translations of metal plates, that he supposedly never actually saw. Â Mormons are decent folks--at least most of the ones I know--and they live decent lives, do for others, but it doesn't change the fact that they've based their faith on the mutterings of a huckster and his cronies.
Not that it's much different than Scientology, modern day Wicca, or a bunch of other religions who have fairly obvious huckster beginnings--like modern "Satanism" as a fer'instance--but come on: Moroni? Â
Might as well have a Saint Ain'tyouadumbass while you're at it...
Silence In Daylight
One Thousand Club
"See, this is what happens when you don't have a single dominant church around to suppress heresy," he said, tongue planted firmly in cheek.
DeepFlowingRiver
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Joseph Smith's first business with his father was finding gold with one of those rods that find water, how is that for an upstanding member of your community.
I got an idea, we will take the Christian religion, mix in the gnostics, a sprinkle of free masonry, and a dash of lies booyah! we got a steady income of 1-2 billion a year. We take all major forms of credit and debit cards, or try our direct deposit method of tithing.
Sorry my dad's side of the family is way up there in the Mormon church, I love them to death, great people. Just I find it so discouraging that they could be so fooled.
I got an idea, we will take the Christian religion, mix in the gnostics, a sprinkle of free masonry, and a dash of lies booyah! we got a steady income of 1-2 billion a year. We take all major forms of credit and debit cards, or try our direct deposit method of tithing.
Sorry my dad's side of the family is way up there in the Mormon church, I love them to death, great people. Just I find it so discouraging that they could be so fooled.