Other What is your mind blowing answer to existence?

Andy Samberg

Andy Samberg
So whatever religion you believe in, or whether your are an Atheist, the central idea for existence shares one similarity: Something came from nothing.


Now this is some mind blowing stuff, and I have spent years thinking about this. It can literally drive someone crazy. What is existence? Why are we here? 


Now like I said, whether you believe in God, you have to agree with the fact that whatever happens in your religion, something came from nothing. 


What is your theory on existence? 
(And please no arguments on religion, everyone has their own beliefs and it's not cool to trash on them.) 
 
Playing devil's advocate you don't have to agree that something came from nothing.


If science is correct then energy can neither be created or destroyed, only changed. In the absence of any better explanation I believe the big bang theory, and you can debate what came before time as we know it came to exist but one theory is that our universe will end in a big crunch which may create the conditions for the big bang of the next one, in a potentially endless cycle.


Even if this is true I don't believe there is any celestial reason this universe or this planet is anything special. I choose not to believe that any outside agency gave or gives existence meaning. We can and should do that ourselves.
 
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As a Roman Catholic, I believe God created the universe. What step he begun creating it, that is up to science to figure out. I also believe he created the universe with such conditions that it would become the best possible universe.
 
As stated above we don't know that something can't come from nothing.
Mainly because we've never had nothing to analyse, after all if there's something there to interact with the nothing then there's not nothing there.

But if you want my own personal philosophical ideas

Well, if any rule set is an emergent property of it's pieces, for example the laws of gravity are how mass/energy behave, then without anything existing there's nothing to impose rules like 'the universe can't spontaneously exist' implying that the universe could spontaneously exist. 

Alternatively, it may be that circular logic actually works on a cosmic scale, the universe exists because at some point the universe creates conditions that allowed it to start in the past.  

there's also the possibility that nothing just hasn't ever existed. After all existence is an inherent property of any universe I'd occupy. 
 
My basic theory about existence is that God created us and everything out of nothing and gave us the gift of salvation through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ...
 
As long as you say grace before you consume food, I think you should be fine, I dunno how the united states works. At least that's how I view my existence: thankful for everything.
 
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My basic theory amounts to "eh, whatever man". I'm here now. Gonna fight as hard as I can to stay here for as long as I can. Same for my people. S'all that really matters to me. How I got here isn't particularly important to my end goals.


(Don't let the avatar fool you, I'm probably a rather blasphemous individual. I just really like that particular bird.)
 
And what is sin? What is your definition of it?   

well, if you want to explore deeper into it we can do it, though do aknowledge the fact that my beliefs have some common points with @Zombocalypse ´s but here, as in many other places, details pull them apart.


What I consider as a sin is a conscious action that pulls you apart from your relation with God.
 
As the depressing man I am, I believe the Universe, and everything within time and space, is one giant accident. Essentially, the product of something we cannot comprehend nor understand that just went off when it didn't need to. And everything to occur within that accident was just another accident. The chances of Earth forming as an inhabitable planet were so minimal, they were near impossible to our standards. But it happened. Because something happens. Even if it's not meant to, something is and will happen. All we can do is sit back, grab a cold one, and marvel at the sheer excellence of this one giant accident.
 
As the depressing man I am, I believe the Universe, and everything within time and space, is one giant accident. Essentially, the product of something we cannot comprehend nor understand that just went off when it didn't need to. And everything to occur within that accident was just another accident. The chances of Earth forming as an inhabitable planet were so minimal, they were near impossible to our standards. But it happened. Because something happens. Even if it's not meant to, something is and will happen. All we can do is sit back, grab a cold one, and marvel at the sheer excellence of this one giant accident.

"Accident" implies intent. The universe is not an accident, the universe just is.
 
You are all fools.


You impudent mortals have no idea how the universe came to be. Allow me to enlighten you:


Long ago, God and his chum; Steve, were playing chess. God won and then he farted. The fart-gas compressed and exploded as what we know as the Big Bang, or what I like to call "The Biggest Fart in the History of the Universe."
 
Existence is all in your mind. Chances are we're all just living in a simulation anyways.

And death is a server-transfer :D  

well, if you want to explore deeper into it we can do it, though do aknowledge the fact that my beliefs have some common points with @Zombocalypse ´s but here, as in many other places, details pull them apart.


What I consider as a sin is a conscious action that pulls you apart from your relation with God.

A consious action that pulls you away from your God implies that you have knowledge of what your God wants you to be doing. As it stands, I have yet to meet anyone who had a chat with God(s). The entire collection of holy texts in all it's myriad of interpretations is an entirely man-made thing. Hence, any religion is giving you a set of rules they made up.  


Could you, thus, clarify your statement further? 
 
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jokes aside: and mind you this isnt an answer to the question at all, but interesting enough to voice in my humble opinion - is how i've come to think of this matter now as a more pragmatic person rather than how i used to be, which was a highly theoretical thinking person, i basically went from intp to intj


and as a result, questions like this are very simple to me now: it doesn't matter


how we came to be in existence doesn't matter to me as an individual so much as the fact that we are in existence, and how to deal with that pesky matter - because i can assure you i did not ask to be in existence and am very thoroughly upset about it and will be complaining to upper management at first opportunity


by all means i dont say that to be rude at all, or to suggest that everyone shouldn't theorize and that it isn't useful to do so, merely offering a different viewpoint (approach?) and producing word-vomit for my own thought's sake
 
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im not very pragmatic when it comes to most abstract theories but this is the one question i probably will always take that approach to.


since i dont really believe in any god i dont think it matters either, much like which doctor. i think if finding the origin meant huge advances in science or something it probably would but i dont think we'll ever be close to knowing, at least not any time soon, so i dont lose any sleep over it.


if it was some kind of sentient god with an agenda that would change a lot, i suppose.


basically how much i care is relevant to the actual answer, but i dont think we'll have that soon.
 
And death is a server-transfer :D  


A consious action that pulls you away from your God implies that you have knowledge of what your God wants you to be doing. As it stands, I have yet to meet anyone who had a chat with God(s). The entire collection of holy texts in all it's myriad of interpretations is an entirely man-made thing. Hence, any religion is giving you a set of rules they made up.  


Could you, thus, clarify your statement further? 

However, you are missing something important: Roman Catholics revere the pope as infallible. This means that , in matters of spirituality and religion, the Pope is what we take as the right interpretation of God's will. This is because we believe the Pope to be elected under the influence of the Holy Ghost, Just as St. Peter, the first pope, was chosen by Jesus Himself. 


Yet, even if you don't know God you can still commit an action against his will. You don't have to have conscience of what you're doing to be against his will, only to have conscience of the full extent of the action you as choosing to take. 
 
No one knows why we are here, and it's pointless to ponder it, unless for fun.  If you really believe you'll find an answer, you won't.  There are dimensions outside of our comprehension that, for all we know, to other dimensions, our whole universe is a single particle.  


If your beliefs help you sleep better at night, great, believe whatever helps you.  But to say we know anything is ignorant.  
 

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