What happens when we die??

[PedalEve]

My mom says we go to heaven or hell according to our deeds but do u really think up there , there's someone countin all our doings .. man its so damn annoying to think that someone is breathin down ur neck even when ur bathing... O.o

 

[Abendrot]

When we die, I imagine it'll the same as before we were born. Nothing. Not even blackness, just pure nothingness. No thoughts, no feelings, no consciousness. It's something I can't even wrap my head around.

 

[Mordecai]

I'm one of those 'when you're dead, you're done' types.

 

[Ammy]

I am also of the belief that it's a one and done deal. That's why our actions are so important. Not for a fear of judgment, but that we should try and make it as great as possible.

 

[Sidelink]

I am also of the belief that it's a one and done deal. That's why our actions are so important. Not for a fear of judgment, but that we should try and make it as great as possible.

With that in mind, one could also say that out actions don't matter at all. If there is no consequence in the afterlife, why bother with right and wrong actions?

 

[Ammy]

With that in mind, one could also say that out actions don't matter at all. If there is no consequence in the afterlife, why bother with right and wrong actions?

Empathy for your fellow humans. I'm not so naive as to think people as a majority are acting a specific way due to a moral compass rather than law or fear of some spiritual retribution, but under the assumption that the belief there is nothing after death is correct then it's absolutely why it does matter. Even if one has no close personal connections we all affect another life, if not through sharing our beliefs and culture than through actions. Steal something and you deprive someone, somewhere of that resource and an establishment of income for example. Assuming it was done out of greed or apathy rather than necessity then I don't feel there's a solid justification for it. Even if an "afterlife" isn't real, everything here is real enough to us. That's why it's vital to try and bring some good vibes to the world, fear of punishment or not. It's never just about one or two people.


If we only have one shot, then why not try and make it a mutually enjoyable ride, eh?

 

[Sidelink]

Empathy for your fellow humans. I'm not so naive as to think people as a majority are acting a specific way due to a moral compass rather than law or fear of some spiritual retribution, but under the assumption that the belief there is nothing after death is correct then it's absolutely why it does matter. Even if one has no close personal connections we all affect another life, if not through sharing our beliefs and culture than through actions. Steal something and you deprive someone, somewhere of that resource and an establishment of income for example. Assuming it was done out of greed or apathy rather than necessity then I don't feel there's a solid justification for it. Even if an "afterlife" isn't real, everything here is real enough to us. That's why it's vital to try and bring some good vibes to the world, fear of punishment or not. It's never just about one or two people.
If we only have one shot, then why not try and make it a mutually enjoyable ride, eh?

Well, that's a noble thought, but it doesn't override my point. Everything you said can be reversed. Most thefts don't have any justification other than greed or spite, whether you believe that or not. If you are apathetic, then there's no reason to do anything. I'm not arguing against your point of view. I think people should be kind to one another regardless of what happens after death. But, that doesn't change the fact that no consequence equals no duty to act in any certain way for the sake of others or yourself.

 

[Knightling]

Well, that's a noble thought, but it doesn't override my point. Everything you said can be reversed. Most thefts don't have any justification other than greed or spite, whether you believe that or not. If you are apathetic, then there's no reason to do anything. I'm not arguing against your point of view. I think people should be kind to one another regardless of what happens after death. But, that doesn't change the fact that no consequence equals no duty to act in any certain way for the sake of others or yourself.

Are you saying that the afterlife must be real because we need motivation to be good for each other?


For the sake of argument, lets say that No Afterlife would make us all less empathetic, would that make the truth of death any less real? From my point of view, there is no scientific evidence for life after death, we end when we die, and how you behave in this life with that knowledge has no effect on Reality.


Realistically, your arguments propose that people need to Believe in the afterlife, no matter the truth, so that they treat each other better. Of course, this would lead into a Red Pill/Blue Pill discussion.

 

[Sidelink]

Are you saying that the afterlife must be real because we need motivation to be good for each other?
For the sake of argument, lets say that No Afterlife would make us all less empathetic, would that make the truth of death any less real? From my point of view, there is no scientific evidence for life after death, we end when we die, and how you behave in this life with that knowledge has no effect on Reality.


Realistically, your arguments propose that people need to Believe in the afterlife, no matter the truth, so that they treat each other better. Of course, this would lead into a Red Pill/Blue Pill discussion.

Well, if that is your point of view, concerning the afterlife, then you are allowed to have it, but it's not true for all peoples. My argument is based on consequentialism. Luckily, it's a choice, just as deontology or any other principle of normative ethics. But let me ask you this, why do you think organized religion exists? It creates consequences for destructive actions, just as the laws of society does. If there is no consequence, then there is no incentive to be 'good' or make life a 'mutually enjoyable ride'.


I don't know what a Red Pill/Blue Pill discussion is, so I cannot comment on that.

 

[Generic Gamer]

Well, what i know for certain about death is that an unpreserved body decomposes at a fast enough rate that a zombie apocalypse is at the very bottom of my list of concerns. I never think about the afterlife because i don't like to plan that far ahead.

 

[Servant]

Your question has only one concrete answer:


Nobody knows. All of the answers written down here are mere speculations and are nothing more than that. Whether you go by the belief that a new cycle of life lays beyond death or instead believe that there's absolutely nothing ultimately doesn't matter because there's no way of us ever knowing what happens after our passing.

 

[TeaMMatE11]

There's no nice way for me to say this....


I don't want to rub you guys off on the wrong shoulder, but here's what I believe, and I'm sorry if any of you are offended by this.


I am religious. I am a practicing Christian. Therefore, I believe in an eternal afterlife. I really don't want to say the other part, because I realize religion is a very, very, sensitive topic. Since I don't want to look like a complete d**k, I'll just leave it there. I have no problems answering any questions, as long as they are respectful.


Those are my 2 cents. Essentially I believe in an afterlife.

 

[B E E S]

I mean. I'm kinda weird in the sense that I don't believe in a god per-se, although I do believe that when we die we go somewhere else. I like to imagine we kinda I dunno. Float around helping to make the new stars until we're ready to be reincarnated. I guess I just want there to be something after death because I'm very afraid of it.

 

[starboy]

I have two different beliefs that I fluctuate between because, if you know me, you know I am very indecisive.

1. Buddhism, basically. You reincarnate until you're ready to move on. I don't necessarily think there's a correct path to this (similar to Hinduism - but, I identify more closely to Buddhism because I definitely do not believe in any higher power and Hinduism includes thousands of Gods). Your path to readiness is personalized, based on your soul. Mashallah.
   
2. Nothing. Not jack, man. Idk how to elaborate on this.
   

 

[Bunni Hood]

I wouldn't worry about it, man. Spending a lot of time thinking about death doesn't leave much time for being alive, ya know? Though if you're really curious, people who have been revived after medical death have described it as a "falling asleep" experience, but without any dreaming. None if that gruesome "eternal void" stuff.(^.^)

 

[The King of Saiyans]

You know, I'm not quite sure what to make of what comes after either. But hey, might as well enjoy the ride, right?

 

[jiminie]

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I have two different beliefs that I fluctuate between because, if you know me, you know I am very indecisive.

1. Buddhism, basically. You reincarnate until you're ready to move on. I don't necessarily think there's a correct path to this (similar to Hinduism - but, I identify more closely to Buddhism because I definitely do not believe in any higher power and Hinduism includes thousands of Gods). Your path to readiness is personalized, based on your soul. Mashallah.
   
2. Nothing. Not jack, man. Idk how to elaborate on this.
   

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^ This. I change my views a lot. Though it alternates between reincarnation or some other form of afterlife (similar to various mythology beliefs) or there is nothing, other than we go back into the Earth in one way or another.


Pure opinion but the way I look at it is that we want to think there is something after life. We want there to be something after life because our consciousness isn't able to process the concept of there being nothing. So we like to believe there is something after life, yet in reality (in scientistic views) there isn't anything.


Of course, I much prefer to believe/think in what I said before (afterlife stuff) regardless of something at the back of my mind telling me I am only believing it because my consciousness almosts needs to believe it exists.


If that makes sense. :3

 

[Icerex]

Well, if that is your point of view, concerning the afterlife, then you are allowed to have it, but it's not true for all peoples. My argument is based on consequentialism. Luckily, it's a choice, just as deontology or any other principle of normative ethics. But let me ask you this, why do you think organized religion exists? It creates consequences for destructive actions, just as the laws of society does. If there is no consequence, then there is no incentive to be 'good' or make life a 'mutually enjoyable ride'.
I don't know what a Red Pill/Blue Pill discussion is, so I cannot comment on that.

Yes, there are consequences. They just so happen to be applied to the present, and not some distant otherworldly future. It is in the best interest of humanity, and by extension, yourself to act in a manner that is the most beneficial and the lest destructive to your fellow humans. If the only thing keeping people from doing horrible things to each other, is the threat of eternal damnation and torment, then those types of people are absolutely terrible. Do you think that if, faced with the uncompromising truth that there is no life after this, nor any deistic consequences to their actions, people would go about murdering each other? How do you then explain atheist?


Organized religion exists in order to control people. Sure, it might give people a noble goal to strive for, or a driving-force to be 'good,' but in the end, it is used as a means of control and the justification acts.

 

[Archie]

I can't die. I'm invincible.

 

[Sunbather]

I imagine nothing. Incomprehensible, perceptionless nothingness.