The Unconquered Sun and the Zenith

[Persell]

When the US spend the most of his attraction to the games of divinity,how explain you that the Zenith as his priests could request visions and prophetic dreams via prayer (how said in the Mainrulebook and in the playersguide, merit:priest)? Or must the Zenith go on a epic quest, to test their kind as worthy that the US bless his priests again with his guidance which he withdraw in the First Age when the Solars gone arrogant and mad ?

 

[Jukashi]

I think it's assumed that the Incarna do spend a little time answering prayers and such, they just won't get off their backs and do anything about the mess themselves.


Probably do everything while waiting their turn. And they are gods, after all- who's to say they can't do a few basic magical things at the same time that they're playing?

 

[Hanat-Osul]

Since it describes the Primordials as having "component souls," I've always imagined the Celestial Incarna as having similarly vast minds.  Not comprised of separate personae, but capable of processing a lot more information than a mortal or an Exalt.


Anyway, the amount of time you want the gods to spend answering prayers vs. playing the Games is up to you.  For example: the Zenith in my Solar game prays ALL THE TIME, and often rolls quite well.  But I'm deliberately keeping the Unconquered Sun out of the game until some really heavy shit happens, so when her prayers get through (she rolls well), I either have the US appear to her in a vague form like a white light, a vast humming sound, etc., or have a lesser god aligned with the US appear in his place.  She's spoken to Lytek, the Daimyo of Exaltation, several times.  That's always an option.  Like calling the director's office and getting his secretary? or one of the VPs?

 

[DeepFlowingRiver]

Also does time even exist to them, I mean really they should have the "time" to do just about everything.

 

[Jukashi]

I think time-warping effects in Exalted are limited to the Wyld.

 

[Flagg]

Also does time even exist to them, I mean really they should have the "time" to do just about everything.

AFAIK, it does, yes. The only beings that are beyond time are the Raksha, and the Primordials.


Edit: ...and only then when they stay out of Creation


-S

 

[Kajata]

Well, when you're talking about the Primordials, surely they can do WHATEVER they like?  I mean they DID create the bloody place?  I thought that meant they'd have created time as well?

 

[Solfi]

... but they're also, quite obviously, not omnipotent. If they could control time, they wouldn't really have had any problems with the Exalted would they? Just stop time, and unmake the little buggers. But no, they got their asses handed to them instead...


Besides, it's not like humans haven't invented stuff that goes beyond what they can control at times ...

 

[Quchu]

Just stop time, and unmake the little buggers.

Za Warudo?


Well... I think it's like the Primordials are playing a game. They used to be Shinmas (or something,) living in endless unreality where nothing and everything is. Then, all the sudden, a group of Shinmas decide to play a game where they aren't everything and nothing. They set up a place where things are defined, get in there and do stuff following the playground's rules. For omnipotent all-beings, not being all powerful would be pretty fun at first...

 

[Flagg]

For omnipotent all-beings, not being all powerful would be pretty fun at first...

... and then really suck when it kills you


-S

 

[Hanat-Osul]

Or traps you in a prison made of your-own-natures-turned-against-you.


Personally, I think the Malfeans got off light.  And the vengeance of the Yozis would be worse.

 

[Flagg]

And the vengeance of the Yozis would be worse.

Oh HELL yeah. Getting annihilated is the end of all your problems. Getting freakishly tortured forever is only the beginning...


-S