Suicide Squad roleplay in the future?

[Sunbather]

「anti-heros?」

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antihero


noun | an·ti·he·ro | \ˈan-tē-ˌhē-(ˌ)rō, ˈan-ˌtī-, -ˌhir-(ˌ)ō\


Definition of antihero: a main character in a book, play, movie, etc., who does not have the usual good qualities that are expected in a hero


"Sooo... you're saying they are not heroes then?"


"A GIANT no!"

「anti-heros?」


We all know the story. Gotham - A cesspool of corruption and criminality, yet such an intriguing métropole. The tug-o-war between the heros, the Batmans and Robins, and the villains, the Jokers and Banes, has raged on for such a long time. And eventually, Gotham was bound to get tired of it. It revolted. The years of the average citizen praying not to get in the way while the so called heroes and villains slugged it out were over.


Instead of sending the fanatic criminals to the Arkham Asylum, people began to execute those they were capable of. Vigilante justice became more and more popular, and the additional, concentrated pressure of the police drove good and bad alike into exile, for if they stayed around, death wasn't unlikely. And there were other cities to be terrorized afterall... Some ran for their live. Some declared openly to never come back, being quite flexible due to their resources, and others simply disappeared, like Batman and Joker.


A few decades have passed now, and Gotham returned to a comparatively normal major city. But, even without the supernatural and otherwise peculiar characters once harming and/or protecting it, Gotham never eradicated the trace. Sure, most of them were driven away. Some died. But their legacies are very well alive.


Secretely, wide varieties of DNA were collected back in the day. A shadowy company (that has cut all traces since) in its possession, hired surrogate mothers to birth children utilizing the... Well... they have a peculiar ancestry, if you catch my drift. They are the Rootkids. The undying descendants of Gotham's former "star citizen". Who knows which sickos have been sampled and have their bastard child roam around right now... But, for more urgent matters, there's a group of them right now, behind bars, and they are... well... gifted. Terrible, don't get me wrong. But gifted. And maybe the only chance to clear Gotham's sky from what's lurking...

This is what I have so far. I wanted to make it a possibilty to have OCs without abandoning the franchise, so I figured kids would be a good idea. But of course, there's so much lore in the comics and whatnot and I know so little off it, so I am unsure if this starting point is even fitting whatsoever. Opinions and ideas are much, much appreciated!

 

[call me rae]

An interesting idea. I would be wary of Next Geners ( daughter of so and so or son of what's his face )


Because people often just recycle the original characters backstory and it can limit creativity.


Instead let it be a new group of master criminals that are used as scapegoats to complete a suicide mission.


As that's the key component of the suicide squad they are not good people. They are the worst of the worst and they only thing they are "helping" is because either they have some kind of brain implant that insures they do what they're told or die OR they are told thatif they work with their handler their crimes will be erased and they can go free.


If your looking for antiheroes you might look at Red Hood and the Outlaws Red Hood and the Outlaws (Volume) - Comic Vine


Not to say your version of the Sucide Squad won't work just remember your dealing with villains and people that did terrible things.


Chances are they did this for a reason.


Also just to clarify Superman isn't stationed in Gotham - that's purely protected by Human Vigilantes. like the Bat Family and Allies.

 

[Sunbather]

@readingraebow


Oh god, I really didn't know that about Superman. See, that's why I need help with the lore stuff.


That being said, I definitely do want people to do the kids of so and so, because it will give a sense of familarity without playing canon characters. However, I'll just require a backstory and be critical on lazy ones.


And yeah, definitely agreed about the bad stuff. People will have to play true bad guys, no fallen heroes.

 

[call me rae]

If your set on Next Genners I would look up wiki for Gotham or maybe Batman Arkham knight. To get a feel for your canon characters.


Batman has a nice selection of Rogues. Although again not all of the Suicide Squad is from Gotham or related to Batman.


Enchantress for instance I know from Justice League Dark she's a villain for Constantine or Zatanna.


Captain Bommerang I believe is from the Flashes Rogues.

 

[call me rae]

Batman Villains


Suicide Squad (Team) - Comic Vine


You also might want to watch Batman Assault on Arkham to get a feel for the team. It's a DC animated universe movie about the suicide squad

 

[Sunbather]

Those links were pretty nifty! Thank you. I made a list with characters I thought would be suitable. I tried to keep it to those that are generally known from either movies or games (or are otherwise really big parts of the franchises) but I may very well have forgotten some, so feel free to suggest some additions (or argue some shouldn't be there)


Arnold Wesker


Azrael (Michael Washington Lane)


Bane


Batman


Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)


Black Canary (Dinah Laurel Lance)


Captain Boomerang (George "Digger" Harkness)


Catwoman / Seline Kyle


Clayface


Clockmaster


Copperhead


Catwoman


Deadshot


Dick Grayson / Nightwing


El Diablo (Chato Santana)


Enchantress


Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)


Harley Quinn / Harleen Quinzel)


Hugo Strange


Jason Todd (Red Hood, Robin)


Joker


Katana (Tatsu Yamashiro)


Killer Croc (Waylon Jones)


Kirk Langstrom


Lex Luthor


Lobo


Lois Lane / Superwoman


Mad Hatter (Jervais Tetch)


Penguin / Oswalt Cobblepot


Poison Ivy


Ra's Al Ghul


Riddler / Edward Nigma


Robin (Damian Wayne)


Scarecrow / Jonathan Crane


Supergirl (Kara Zor-El)


Superman (Clark Kent/Kal-El)z


Talia Al Ghul


Two-Face / Harvey Dent


Victor Fries / Mister Freeze


Victor Zsasz


(Also @Mr\. Grin heeelp)

 

[call me rae]

Well it depends on if you want only criminals and only people from Gotham.


For that matter what kind of powers you'll allow and how powerful you want individual characters to be.


I'd say Superman or any of his relatives (krypronians in general ) shouldn't be allowed because their very OP and would make any conflict seem petty or easily resolved


Also of you only want criminals I wouldn't have too many heroes choldren. As people would be tempted to play them as heroes.


Plus for some of the heroes again they're not from Gotham


Green arrow for instance is from Star/Starling City which is across the country from Gotham


Also you want to determine where this sits in continuity. For instance u listed Damien Wayne who is Bruce Wayne batman's son.


For him, Dick, and Bruce all to have kids at the same time is kind of wierd.


That would be like saying u , your mom, and your older sister all had kids of a similar age. When ur older sister is about twelve years older than u


Lastly Alfred is,the Wayne family butler and about 50 when Bruce starts our as BATMAN. By the time the Robins come around,he would be at least 70. So a bit old to have a kid

 

[Sunbather]

That's actually a really solid point. I'll see about the Superman thing, but I'm sure that's tweakable enough.

 

[call me rae]

I would say you might want to break it up into two groups.


The Outlaws and the Suicide Squad. As the number of people listed as potential parents would make for a huge team -like 15 people,in one squad.


So breaking it into two teams adds conflict and let's you have antihero and criminals

 

[Sunbather]

Well this is just a pool of available parents, not a "this must be given out" kinda thing. So say I cap it at 10 people, there'd just be leftovers

 

[call me rae]

That's actually a really solid point. I'll see about the Superman thing, but I'm sure that's tweakable enough.

As someone who does a lot of DC roleplays trust me leave the krypronians out of it. Their power set Is extremely OP ( the creators themselves admit he's an OP Mary Sue ) and putting his kids in a roleplay typically means that whoever is playing them gives them no weaknesses and treats them as invincible gods


Especially for someone unfamiliar with the character and his abilities. I'd say just remove him.


It wouldn't even be an opposition since Batman himself keeps Superman out of Gotham.


And say he did have a clone or son. If he became a criminal he wouldn't go to Gotham.


He'd either be held by Superman himself in his fortress of solitude or Belle Reverse which is the prison for the powerful metas.

 

[Sunbather]

Mhhhh... fair points. I shall consider. I'd like to see a criminal version of the perfectly clean characters of the templates, but I might remove them. Or I might invent restrictions on the strength after some research. Thanks for the advise though, much appreciated.

 

[call me rae]

Like I said be carful u have to remember that this is supposed to be a Suicide Squad. Meaning the characters are supposed to be in deathly peril when they go on the mission. It should appear as if everyone in the roleplay should die for most of the roleplay.


That's another reason to limit the characters powers.. if they are too strong then there is no danger and the plot becomes invalud

 

[call me rae]

If you really want an evil Superman tho look up the Superman clones and make one of them the evil the squad should fave

 

[call me rae]

That way the,OP will serve a purpose and the character will work with the plot.

 

[Sunbather]

I will look into that, thank you.


Also, could you please edit your posts? Triple posts and so on are a little, you know, all over the place. Thanks! ^-^

 

[call me rae]

Sorry on my phone so it's easier to just post at the end of the thought and pick up in a new post. Rather than worry about editting. UT doesn't help mom keeps nagging me to handle the sifs. So I stop in mid thought alot

 

[D3lmoniko]

... Interested. Now lurking.

 

[Zilla]

DC really isn't my strong point, as outside of Batman I've never read much of their stuff. As a personal preference I don't like the concept of next geners at all, but that's just me. I find that really limited in creativity and really requires people to know their stuff. There are so many time lines and arcs within each brand that it can get really convoluted if people aren't all on the same page. Even getting info from the wikis and stuff... I dunno. It feels pretty stifling to me.

 

[D3lmoniko]

Well, the only way you could sneak this in is after the Dark Knight Returns, seeing as the vigilantees are now preety much outlawed, and they train under Gotham city, under the guidance of Green Arrow and Batman. The suicide squad could be sent to see what happens, or it could be revived in the Batman Beyond timeline, because that lore is not that fixed. Again, it's iffy.

 

[elie]

Well, the only way you could sneak this in is after the Dark Knight Returns, seeing as the vigilantees are now preety much outlawed, and they train under Gotham city, under the guidance of Green Arrow and Batman. The suicide squad could be sent to see what happens, or it could be revived in the Batman Beyond timeline, because that lore is not that fixed. Again, it's iffy.

Spoilers! asonjefoaw[e[pmfa'sd


But anyway, I think a SS roleplay'd be great fun!

 

[D3lmoniko]

I didn't think it would be that much of a spoiler to be honest.

 

[Sunbather]

DC really isn't my strong point, as outside of Batman I've never read much of their stuff. As a personal preference I don't like the concept of next geners at all, but that's just me. I find that really limited in creativity and really requires people to know their stuff. There are so many time lines and arcs within each brand that it can get really convoluted if people aren't all on the same page. Even getting info from the wikis and stuff... I dunno. It feels pretty stifling to me.

Well they wouldn't have to be complete copies, of course. Just roots, basically, so that the OCs feel anchored in the proper world, you know? Otherwise it'd just be a random roleplay in a city that happened to be Gotham, if you can feel where I'm coming from. There wouldn't be a lack of freedom, so much as a source of familarity. c: I also considered that a villain could possible have sampled DNA from the villains and heroes in the era where they were still welcome and our characters are birthed from surrogates but carry their criminal ancestor's DNA. That way time wouldn't be an issue and it'd further distance the OCs without ripping apart a canon anchor.

Well, the only way you could sneak this in is after the Dark Knight Returns, seeing as the vigilantees are now preety much outlawed, and they train under Gotham city, under the guidance of Green Arrow and Batman. The suicide squad could be sent to see what happens, or it could be revived in the Batman Beyond timeline, because that lore is not that fixed. Again, it's iffy.

The idea was that, in the future, all the heroes and villains have been repelled by a total revolt, basically. Of course, the villains were a little less cooperative, but if you have a whole city on edge it can accomplish plenty of things. So then, after a period of settling down and getting used to the more "normal" city life again, these descendents pop up and decide they may as well cause shit. Then, after being imprisoned, they get tasked with these insanely dangerous missions. I have to go with a general, overarchingly applicable idea because there's so many arcs and deaths and nullification of lore that it's impossible to unify everything in other fashion, you know?