Fandom Number Hunters (OOC Chat)

[SolemnSongbird]

Yeah, I'm also the same way with the Superheavy Samurai, though the card that made me want more of them is... odd...

Battleball is PURE EVIL...But so adorable. xD The card that made me want them personally was Battleball as well, the determined little ball of machinery. :p I found it literally by pure accident... Which oddly enough is also how I stumbled across most of my other twenty favorite archetypes, most notably Deskbots. I find most of my favorite archetypes by scrolling randomly through YGOPRO's list of cards and looking for anything that looks interesting. :p

 

[The Silent Z]

Future Fusion has been banned since the GX era since it allowed instant super powerful absolutely broken fusion monsters...and they just took it off the list. It is already being horribly abused. @.@ Also, Heros are getting more support in the form of Vision Heros...which just support other hero fusions by getting them out quicker. :p Link summoning is actually pretty simple...but also sad. Now there are only 2 zones for monsters summoned from the extra deck to go to, separate from the 5 main monster zones, and each player can only use 1 of them. ANY monster summoned from the extra deck HAS to go there unless you have out a link monster, which are basically like synchro monsters without the level specifications or need for tuners, and open up main monster zones for other extra deck monsters. It's...actually pretty broken. Oh yeah, now any synchro xyz or fusion spam deck is dead pretty much. Boss monsters are actually BOSS monsters now. xD Also red-eyes at this point are a bit of everything cool, XYZ lockdown, fusion beatdown, and...ritual summoning that nobody ever uses. :p

Yeah I could imagine. I didn't really use it in my Hero deck which was my main deck for fusions. But others I could see definitely abusing that cards ability. Quite powerful

I have been seeing a lot of new cards for the heros, Ancient gears, some Harpie and Cyber angel or (Alexis deck) lately, plus I think some toys archetype?

It doesn't sound too bad, but I'm so used to the old school way. All the new era summoning is still.... Just wow. I mean how many new ways of summoning and new zones do they need and can come up with ? Haha

I bet, Red eyes was always cool but sounds like they are getting massive adds and all around bits for play styles.

Yee. I'll let you know when it's all finished.

You should friendo. XD

Cool

And I might someday haha

Is it wrong that I choose my decks based on the aesthetics of the monster cards?

I've done that quite a bit, Myself. Anything cool and interesting to my tastes, I quickly get hooked to find out more and bam..... several archetype favorites and deck ideas later for me, making a near endless list.

 

[SolemnSongbird]

Yeah I could imagine. I didn't really use it in my Hero deck which was my main deck for fusions. But others I could see definitely abusing that cards ability. Quite powerful

I have been seeing a lot of new cards for the heros, Ancient gears, some Harpie and Cyber angel or (Alexis deck) lately, plus I think some toys archetype?

It doesn't sound too bad, but I'm so used to the old school way. All the new era summoning is still.... Just wow. I mean how many new ways of summoning and new zones do they need and can come up with ? Haha

I bet, Red eyes was always cool but sounds like they are getting massive adds and all around bits for play styles.

This SINGLE card is the most terrifying example of Future Fusion's broken nature.

Keep in mind that this card is part of an archetype that PLAYS FROM THE GRAVE AND WANTS YOU TO DUMP EVERY MONSTER IN YOUR DECK INTO THE GRAVEYARD ON PURPOSE. Yeah.

Also, you don't even know the half of it. GX archetypes have been getting support left and right lately to the point where it's almost absurd. Still...since I love most of the GX archetypes that's a plus for me. :p

And you say link summoning isn't all that bad...but it makes quite a few modern archetypes literally unable to function at all. Unfortunately...Very sadly. Even old school archetypes for the most part NOW have become heavily reliant on the extra deck, including Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes (For some reason even though they really don't ENTIRELY need it) Red-Eyes, etc. This includes GX archetypes. So...RIP any non link summon related decks. xD

Red-eyes really are a bit of everything...other than synchros. They also have an AMAZING XYZ boss monster.

As well as the ENTIRE rank 7 toolbox, which is SERIOUSLY powerful and not many decks can even use ANY of it. Not only that but it has a seriously funny fusion boss monster that is...basically a powerful explosive burn card.

And yes, they actually have archetype specific level 6 support monsters that are pretty dang good. :p

 

[The Silent Z]

This SINGLE card is the most terrifying example of Future Fusion's broken nature.

Keep in mind that this card is part of an archetype that PLAYS FROM THE GRAVE AND WANTS YOU TO DUMP EVERY MONSTER IN YOUR DECK INTO THE GRAVEYARD ON PURPOSE. Yeah.

Also, you don't even know the half of it. GX archetypes have been getting support left and right lately to the point where it's almost absurd. Still...since I love most of the GX archetypes that's a plus for me. :p

And you say link summoning isn't all that bad...but it makes quite a few modern archetypes literally unable to function at all. Unfortunately...Very sadly. Even old school archetypes for the most part NOW have become heavily reliant on the extra deck, including Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes (For some reason even though they really don't ENTIRELY need it) Red-Eyes, etc. This includes GX archetypes. So...RIP any non link summon related decks. xD

Red-eyes really are a bit of everything...other than synchros. They also have an AMAZING XYZ boss monster.

As well as the ENTIRE rank 7 toolbox, which is SERIOUSLY powerful and not many decks can even use ANY of it. Not only that but it has a seriously funny fusion boss monster that is...basically a powerful explosive burn card.

And yes, they actually have archetype specific level 6 support monsters that are pretty dang good. :p

That initial card image you bring up, seems like a attempt to create a Greek mythical type deck. Just going by the appearance of the monster though. Imo

Well I just mean it doesn't sound as crazy and out there as I initially thought going by the name alone. I was expecting something much different and just based off another term for chains. Idk it was a tired and crackpot thought haha with little sense but some literal takes on link and the old chain aspect of dueling such as when multiple cards are active creating a chain, etc.

The old school and modern decks being taken out, basically and made obsolete without certain cards/style of play... is quite sad and doesn't have me looking forward to the link summoning. As I'm very much old school and love the GX era archetypes and original era decks too. A lot of great memories from those years.

Those are awesome!

 

[Kit-Kat]

Holy shit you guys. XD

 

[The Silent Z]

Holy shit you guys. XD

What? Haha

Curiosity of timeline and thinking of using this character somehow as a npc or something..... How many years have past since GX era and the current? Ooohhh...... Or I could make him a reference able ancestor for JK if the timeline is what I think it might be,

 

[SolemnSongbird]

That initial card image you bring up, seems like a attempt to create a Greek mythical type deck. Just going by the appearance of the monster though. Imo

Well I just mean it doesn't sound as crazy and out there as I initially thought going by the name alone. I was expecting something much different and just based off another term for chains. Idk it was a tired and crackpot thought haha with little sense but some literal takes on link and the old chain aspect of dueling such as when multiple cards are active creating a chain, etc.

The old school and modern decks being taken out, basically and made obsolete without certain cards/style of play... is quite sad and doesn't have me looking forward to the link summoning. As I'm very much old school and love the GX era archetypes and original era decks too. A lot of great memories from those years.

Those are awesome!

In a way yes, in a way no. Infernoids are...sort of in appearance based on greek mythology, but, in actual name and other things...they're based on mythological demons...I think...I'm pretty sure. The Yugioh Wikia probably explains that better.

Huh.. That actually makes sense...Although if you google how link summoning works you are sort of constructing chains of monsters...sort of? Once again I can't explain things. :p

Interestingly a lot of GX era decks can still work with link summoning...except in a completely different way by completely ignoring their original playstyle. @.@ It's complicated. Cyber Dragons and Gladiator Beasts and amazoness are probably the least affected due to their new support. :p

And yes, yes they are. B)

EDIT: WELL! I was completely wrong. Their design is based off of the Qli, who are based off of NORSE mythology, the reason for these design similarities being that they are the EVIL forces taking control of them. They are all named after and designed after mythical demons...or at least in the OCG they are. In the TCG they're named after the number corresponding to their level...except in random other languages.

 

[Kit-Kat]

What? Haha

Curiosity of timeline and thinking of using this character somehow as a npc or something..... How many years have past since GX era and the current? Ooohhh...... Or I could make him a reference able ancestor for JK if the timeline is what I think it might be,

I go to finish my episode of Arc-V and you all got a chat goin' on about cards and shit. XD

Again, I see Zexal being like a branching path of 5D's. And I kinda picture it taking I dunno, 80 or so years after 5D's? Thanks to this one theory video I watched? And I kinda go by that in my thoughts? XD

 

[The Silent Z]

In a way yes, in a way no. Infernoids are...sort of in appearance based on greek mythology, but, in actual name and other things...they're based on mythological demons...I think...I'm pretty sure. The Yugioh Wikia probably explains that better.

Huh.. That actually makes sense...Although if you google how link summoning works you are sort of constructing chains of monsters...sort of? Once again I can't explain things. :p

Interestingly a lot of GX era decks can still work with link summoning...except in a completely different way by completely ignoring their original playstyle. @.@ It's complicated. Cyber Dragons and Gladiator Beasts and amazoness are probably the least affected due to their new support. :p

And yes, yes they are. B)

I see. Sounds like a cool deck though I have to admit, it's the appearance of the card that really catches my attention to such a deck. Even if they are not completely based off Greek mythology, the parts that are would be enough to really catch my interest on that alone. Due to a interest in Greek mythology. But still cool and you explained it well

It does? Xd I guess it wasn't quite as out there as I thought. It will take some getting used to for certain. But glad to hear the Amazoness deck is a least affected archetype as that'll likely be one I'd use then. Cyber Dragon..... That deck is op but awesome as any dragon and machine deck I've seen and seemingly endless for new cards. Gladiator beast was a cool archetype too and glad to see it still around and happening for new eras.

AGREED

 

[The Silent Z]

I go to finish my episode of Arc-V and you all got a chat goin' on about cards and shit. XD

Again, I see Zexal being like a branching path of 5D's. And I kinda picture it taking I dunno, 80 or so years after 5D's? Thanks to this one theory video I watched? And I kinda go by that in my thoughts? XD

Oh yeah haha Yugioh has that effect

Hmm....... So many ideas and much hype for me to make use of this character while still keeping him as a option for a GX era Rp. So I was thinking of somehow cameo appearance or reference or something in this one as a older version if alive or just use him in a reference or idk. The talk about the Amazoness deck has me hyped and thinking of ways of this character evolving with his deck and the new cards and styles of dueling, etc so was curious. Thanks!

 

[Kit-Kat]

Oh yeah haha Yugioh has that effect

Hmm....... So many ideas and much hype for me to make use of this character while still keeping him as a option for a GX era Rp. So I was thinking of somehow cameo appearance or reference or something in this one as a older version if alive or just use him in a reference or idk. The talk about the Amazoness deck has me hyped and thinking of ways of this character evolving with his deck and the new cards and styles of dueling, etc so was curious. Thanks!

Tell me about it. XD

Oh? You're free to do that if you wish. You can do whatever you want really. You could have him be mentioned or something? Like he became a pretty well-known duelist? Or an older version of him could show up? He could be like that one dojo master that appeared in Zexal or something.

 

[SolemnSongbird]

I see. Sounds like a cool deck though I have to admit, it's the appearance of the card that really catches my attention to such a deck. Even if they are not completely based off Greek mythology, the parts that are would be enough to really catch my interest on that alone. Due to a interest in Greek mythology. But still cool and you explained it well

It does? Xd I guess it wasn't quite as out there as I thought. It will take some getting used to for certain. But glad to hear the Amazoness deck is a least affected archetype as that'll likely be one I'd use then. Cyber Dragon..... That deck is op but awesome as any dragon and machine deck I've seen and seemingly endless for new cards. Gladiator beast was a cool archetype too and glad to see it still around and happening for new eras.

AGREED

Yeah nah...uh...turns out their design is based off of the Qli, which in hindsight should have been obvious to me as a Qli player. They are evil forces who corrupted and took control of the base programming of the Qli, mechanical creatures that came from the now destroyed tree of life. And the Qli are based off of NORSE mythology and symbolism in design. *facepalms* I need sleep, I think it's my tiredness that keeps causing me to make these mistakes.

Also, yeah. It's kind of hilarious actually. Cyber Dragons STILL have super good boss monsters, so even the 1 extra deck monster limit, while it still hurts them, doesn't break them completely. And Gladiator Beasts are literally tag out and troll the archetype...so...yeah. :p They don't even need the fusion monsters entirely, and either way they GO AWAY the turn after you attack with them bringing back your regular gladiator beast monsters to create a link monster so...yeah...powerful. @.@ If anything Gladiator Beasts are MORE powerful now.

 

[The Silent Z]

Tell me about it. XD

Oh? You're free to do that if you wish. You can do whatever you want really. You could have him be mentioned or something? Like he became a pretty well-known duelist? Or an older version of him could show up? He could be like that one dojo master that appeared in Zexal or something.

Gotta love it though! Xd

I'm quite intrigued by it, hes a goofball in someways or perhaps quirky is better a term? But old age version would bring a total new and kinda changed form of him. It would be a definite era to era character who could have been there through the years and several changes. While he in turn evolves with the times and with the new cards, his deck evolves with him.

Him becoming a well known duelist would rock. A nice aspect to play out while getting the chance to use "Whippersnapper" with one of my characters. Haha

If I can find the right look for him and way to bring him in, I'll surely do it. ^^

Yeah nah...uh...turns out their design is based off of the Qli, which in hindsight should have been obvious to me as a Qli player. They are evil forces who corrupted and took control of the base programming of the Qli, mechanical creatures that came from the now destroyed tree of life. And the Qli are based off of NORSE mythology and symbolism in design. *facepalms* I need sleep, I think it's my tiredness that keeps causing me to make these mistakes.

Also, yeah. It's kind of hilarious actually. Cyber Dragons STILL have super good boss monsters, so even the 1 extra deck monster limit, while it still hurts them, doesn't break them completely. And Gladiator Beasts are literally tag out and troll the archetype...so...yeah. :p They don't even need the fusion monsters entirely, and either way they GO AWAY the turn after you attack with them bringing back your regular gladiator beast monsters to create a link monster so...yeah...powerful. @.@ If anything Gladiator Beasts are MORE powerful now.

Oh, I see. Cool though

Cyber Dragons are going to be that kinda deck. I think. They still get more powerful cards to keep them boss level. Haha

I always liked the idea behind the play style of Gladiator Beasts. The tag out and troll feature was interesting, different kinda from what I recall. While a awesome archetype as well. I just never completed the deck in Rl to try it in duels. Great to hear they've become more powerful and competitive.

 

[SolemnSongbird]

Oh, I see. Cool though

Cyber Dragons are going to be that kinda deck. I think. They still get more powerful cards to keep them boss level. Haha

I always liked the idea behind the play style of Gladiator Beasts. The tag out and troll feature was interesting, different kinda from what I recall. While a awesome archetype as well. I just never completed the deck in Rl to try it in duels. Great to hear they've become more powerful and competitive.

Cyber Dragons really have sort of always been 'that' deck. They refuse to just kick the bucket and keep on fighting for competitive glory...and having most of their cards used in non-cyber dragon decks. o-o

Gladiator Beasts are...eh...not really more competitive anymore. They're pretty outclassed currently, but link summoning's going to change that!... Hopefully!...Most likely!... Probably!... Ok I'm just speculating here but it's a logical assumption. >.>

 

[Kit-Kat]

Gotta love it though! Xd

I'm quite intrigued by it, hes a goofball in someways or perhaps quirky is better a term? But old age version would bring a total new and kinda changed form of him. It would be a definite era to era character who could have been there through the years and several changes. While he in turn evolves with the times and with the new cards, his deck evolves with him.

Him becoming a well known duelist would rock. A nice aspect to play out while getting the chance to use "Whippersnapper" with one of my characters. Haha

If I can find the right look for him and way to bring him in, I'll surely do it. ^^

Do it dude. I'd love to see a super old character come into the RP to teach the 'youngsters' and all that. XD

 

[The Silent Z]

Cyber Dragons really have sort of always been 'that' deck. They refuse to just kick the bucket and keep on fighting for competitive glory...and having most of their cards used in non-cyber dragon decks. o-o

Gladiator Beasts are...eh...not really more competitive anymore. They're pretty outclassed currently, but link summoning's going to change that!... Hopefully!...Most likely!... Probably!... Ok I'm just speculating here but it's a logical assumption. >.>

That's one thing about the deck I tire of. They really just keep sticking around as a top deck choice. But they are cool as well.

Well I was thinking by the sounds of it, they would be with this link summoning deal. It being a cool deck type led me to thinking and hoping it would be, least it grew in power so far. Spreads the wealth to other archetypes outside of the famed power decks

 

[SolemnSongbird]

That's one thing about the deck I tire of. They really just keep sticking around as a top deck choice. But they are cool as well.

Well I was thinking by the sounds of it, they would be with this link summoning deal. It being a cool deck type led me to thinking and hoping it would be, least it grew in power so far. Spreads the wealth to other archetypes outside of the famed power decks

Heh...yeah...except their not really top tier anymore, no, only some of the specific cards in it are, and they're almost NEVER run in pure cyber dragon form anymore. o-o

And yeah, they're basically a rogue tier deck. Good, but meta can easily wreck them.

 

[SolemnSongbird]

https://ygorganization.com/nokiddingthistookforever/
...This is some absolutely ridiculous next level stuff right here. 75 card ftk. I don't even...I don't quite understand what I just watched.

 

[The Silent Z]

Do it dude. I'd love to see a super old character come into the RP to teach the 'youngsters' and all that. XD

I gotta figure out how first. I don't have a bio or anything yet or appearance as I can't find anything to match what my mind has going for him.

I think him perhaps having a brief history with JK would beef things up for both characters. Provides a connection for my GX era character who's now old and uses the term "Whippersnapper" a lot xd for the current Rp. A bridge in other words from GX to Zexal.

While giving JK a mentor or something growing up who taught him how to duel and use tactics plus old school styles to him. It kinda takes away from his Street rat background but not much really. As they were just mentor and student, leaving JK still mainly a kid who grew up on the streets.

 

[Kit-Kat]

I gotta figure out how first. I don't have a bio or anything yet or appearance as I can't find anything to match what my mind has going for him.

I think him perhaps having a brief history with JK would beef things up for both characters. Provides a connection for my GX era character who's now old and uses the term "Whippersnapper" a lot xd for the current Rp. A bridge in other words from GX to Zexal.

While giving JK a mentor or something growing up who taught him how to duel and use tactics plus old school styles to him. It kinda takes away from his Street rat background but not much really. As they were just mentor and student, leaving JK still mainly a kid who grew up on the streets.

I mean, you could have the old dude be sort of like a mentor to him. Someone he looked up to while growing up on the streets. Someone who was like a father to him that he never had. Someone that taught him all he knows about dueling and then some. That be hella cool. But that's up to you friendo.

 

[The Silent Z]

I mean, you could have the old dude be sort of like a mentor to him. Someone he looked up to while growing up on the streets. Someone who was like a father to him that he never had. Someone that taught him all he knows about dueling and then some. That be hella cool. But that's up to you friendo.

That's where I'm leaning honestly. It just seems a plus for both characters and adds to why Joker (JK) often references old school ways of dueling. While providing a bridge for (Gotta get a name here) who's from the GX era and now he is here in this one (Zexal).


Kinda reminds me of Zane and Shepard from GX in that one episode. Not entirely but some similarities in the parts I recall

 

[Kit-Kat]

That's where I'm leaning honestly. It just seems a plus for both characters and adds to why Joker (JK) often references old school ways of dueling. While providing a bridge for (Gotta get a name here) who's from the GX era and now he is here in this one (Zexal).


Kinda reminds me of Zane and Shepard from GX in that one episode. Not entirely but some similarities in the parts I recall

Makes sense, makes sense. I think that could work out really well. Great character development too.

 

[The Silent Z]

Makes sense, makes sense. I think that could work out really well. Great character development too.

Yep! ^^ I think so too

Plus I just stumbled upon a image that hit pretty close to what I was thinking. It's more of a adult version between school years and elderly years. But you could get an idea of how he'd look in both younger and older versions from it. While I add some differences to help that.

Such as younger years would having his hair more wild and jungle esque, spiky. And older current form in Zexal would have his hair a mix between the two with a beard added to it.

Heh...yeah...except their not really top tier anymore, no, only some of the specific cards in it are, and they're almost NEVER run in pure cyber dragon form anymore. o-o

And yeah, they're basically a rogue tier deck. Good, but meta can easily wreck them.

I'm not entirely familiar with all the newer decks, but just from a old school thought, Cyber dragon still seems like a popular and powerful choice. But understandable if they've lost a some tiers .

I'll take your word on it, I'm not sure I've seen the meta deck or not. But I've always liked a number of archetypes of various power levels and skill/tier levels, some can be fun and more interesting to play for me though hey might get crushed by higher levels.

 

[Kit-Kat]

Yep! ^^ I think so too

Plus I just stumbled upon a image that hit pretty close to what I was thinking. It's more of a adult version between school years and elderly years. But you could get an idea of how he'd look in both younger and older versions from it. While I add some differences to help that.

Such as younger years would having his hair more wild and jungle esque, spiky. And older current form in Zexal would have his hair a mix between the two with a beard added to it.

That works too Saru. XD

 

[SolemnSongbird]

I'm not entirely familiar with all the newer decks, but just from a old school thought, Cyber dragon still seems like a popular and powerful choice. But understandable if they've lost a some tiers .

I'll take your word on it, I'm not sure I've seen the meta deck or not. But I've always liked a number of archetypes of various power levels and skill/tier levels, some can be fun and more interesting to play for me though hey might get crushed by higher levels.

The newer decks are...strange and gimmicky, but have interesting and good gimmicks. :p Cyber Dragons are actually only rarely used because of the heavy reliance on level 5/rank 5 machines...and is the reason everyone still sides System Down (or whatever it's called) which BANISHES all machine type monsters on the field.

Trust me, you do NOT want to see the meta decks...they have become basically win first turn or give up/make it so your opponent can't play at all, destroy their entire deck, and create a literally unbreakable board. It's utter infuriating nonsense.