SilverBlack
Poopshroom
@SilverBlack, please edit this post to include any OOC information
Inhumanity: Cries for Sanity
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Dawnsx
Majestic Dinosaur
@JackSkellington The character sheet is now up. I look forward to your character!
SilverBlack
Poopshroom
@JackSkellington anime is preferred, but if you're not good at it realistic or description is fine.
SilverBlack
Poopshroom
It's okay, I look forward to it.JackSkellington said:
Pentagon
Newtype Magic
This RP looks pretty stellar, I reckon I'm going to join. I have a few questions, though, if you do not mind.
So Humans had "advanced" technology. What exactly constitutes 'advanced', and approximately how divorced from the modern world are we
What does the world outside the city look like, and why is named after a region in Spain? Are we on earth? If not, what does the rest of the world look like?
Why do Species need to be captured for experiments to be done on the cells? Surely one could take a culture of cells from one of the infected and grow it in a lab? Why is it so resistant to antibiotic treatment?
The rules say a weapon may not be able to 'one-shot' a species. Does that mean guns do not exist? There are man-portable weapons systems that can kill pretty much any animal in one shot, and so do these not exist? Or did humanity simply not think "gosh, these werewolves sure are tough, better graduate from .223 to .50 beowulf, that'll fuck them right up". Even more than that, elephant guns have existed for centuries, and if humanity has had something like .50 BMG or .600 Overkill, how fucking tough are these species, and what are they made of?
Are species technologically advanced? If not, why have humans been dragging their heels on this whole "genocide" thing? Modern militaries are very, VERY good at killing people without weapons, and just off the top of my head I could think of a dozen easy ways to systematically murder a race of luddite 'monsters', at least if the propaganda is strong enough to keep the opinion of the soldiers up.
Do humans trade with the Species? Capitalism surely would encourage buying and selling things from the Species, and if humanity wants to be peaceful, they could just trade their incredible technology for tissue samples to experiment on, which would likely be much less dangerous than trying to murder them. It would even be possible, thanks to cell phones or the internet or what have you.
Why do people even need to hunt the species? I mean, surely the bevy of sentient races would understand 'contact with humans is shitty for them, they will come and murder me if I start spreading the disease'. Therefore, they could just 'not come into contact with humans'. Is there something forcing Species to interact with humans? Why not set up borders, and have no one cross them, then there will be no disease once the crazies die out/ are experimented to death
So Humans had "advanced" technology. What exactly constitutes 'advanced', and approximately how divorced from the modern world are we
What does the world outside the city look like, and why is named after a region in Spain? Are we on earth? If not, what does the rest of the world look like?
Why do Species need to be captured for experiments to be done on the cells? Surely one could take a culture of cells from one of the infected and grow it in a lab? Why is it so resistant to antibiotic treatment?
The rules say a weapon may not be able to 'one-shot' a species. Does that mean guns do not exist? There are man-portable weapons systems that can kill pretty much any animal in one shot, and so do these not exist? Or did humanity simply not think "gosh, these werewolves sure are tough, better graduate from .223 to .50 beowulf, that'll fuck them right up". Even more than that, elephant guns have existed for centuries, and if humanity has had something like .50 BMG or .600 Overkill, how fucking tough are these species, and what are they made of?
Are species technologically advanced? If not, why have humans been dragging their heels on this whole "genocide" thing? Modern militaries are very, VERY good at killing people without weapons, and just off the top of my head I could think of a dozen easy ways to systematically murder a race of luddite 'monsters', at least if the propaganda is strong enough to keep the opinion of the soldiers up.
Do humans trade with the Species? Capitalism surely would encourage buying and selling things from the Species, and if humanity wants to be peaceful, they could just trade their incredible technology for tissue samples to experiment on, which would likely be much less dangerous than trying to murder them. It would even be possible, thanks to cell phones or the internet or what have you.
Why do people even need to hunt the species? I mean, surely the bevy of sentient races would understand 'contact with humans is shitty for them, they will come and murder me if I start spreading the disease'. Therefore, they could just 'not come into contact with humans'. Is there something forcing Species to interact with humans? Why not set up borders, and have no one cross them, then there will be no disease once the crazies die out/ are experimented to death
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Dawnsx
Majestic Dinosaur
@Pentagon Hello there! I'm going to try and answer your questions as best as I can. I understand that the overview didn't quite explain everything, but the other admins and I are doing our best to add everything in.
Humans have advanced technology, which would include the technology that we would typically see in movies and games. These include laser weapons, better transportation, and guns with multiple purposes and settings (anesthetic, regular bullets, etc). The range of these technology is really up to the roleplayers' imagination. This roleplay is approximately a thousand years into the future.
This roleplay does take place on Earth, but since it's pretty far into the future, much of what we know, such as countries and cities, are changed. Castille, though named after a region in Spain, is not necessarily be in Spain, or where it might have been. The rest of the world are different as well, as many countries and cities from today might not exist in the future. Though, I can say that the rest of the world doesn't look too different, as it is still occupied by humans, and functions normally with cities, towns, and countries just like Castille.
As for the part about the "one-shot" (I would say that it was a poor choice in wording), it really just means no godmodding. We want to try to avoid the weapons that you've mentioned, that could easily screw someone up, and stick to the more advanced, but not necessarily extremely destructive weapons. As for the durability of the Species, they are much tougher than the humans. For example, they could survive a regular bullet to a vital region much more easily than humans (but they most definitely can die from it, depending on what they do after being shot). Overall, they can still die like humans such as from blood loss, but they would be able to endure more fatal attacks compared to humans.
SilverBlack will answer your question about the experimentation, but if you have other questions, feel free to ask!
Humans have advanced technology, which would include the technology that we would typically see in movies and games. These include laser weapons, better transportation, and guns with multiple purposes and settings (anesthetic, regular bullets, etc). The range of these technology is really up to the roleplayers' imagination. This roleplay is approximately a thousand years into the future.
This roleplay does take place on Earth, but since it's pretty far into the future, much of what we know, such as countries and cities, are changed. Castille, though named after a region in Spain, is not necessarily be in Spain, or where it might have been. The rest of the world are different as well, as many countries and cities from today might not exist in the future. Though, I can say that the rest of the world doesn't look too different, as it is still occupied by humans, and functions normally with cities, towns, and countries just like Castille.
As for the part about the "one-shot" (I would say that it was a poor choice in wording), it really just means no godmodding. We want to try to avoid the weapons that you've mentioned, that could easily screw someone up, and stick to the more advanced, but not necessarily extremely destructive weapons. As for the durability of the Species, they are much tougher than the humans. For example, they could survive a regular bullet to a vital region much more easily than humans (but they most definitely can die from it, depending on what they do after being shot). Overall, they can still die like humans such as from blood loss, but they would be able to endure more fatal attacks compared to humans.
SilverBlack will answer your question about the experimentation, but if you have other questions, feel free to ask!
Pentagon
Newtype Magic
On technology, have we hit transhumanism yet? What happened to moore's law, and do we have friendly AI that self modify in an intelligence boom?
What is stopping a modern military from just winning? I am going to throw out some potential strategies I thought of in less than a minute, and you tell me if they would not work against a lowpopulation decentralized group of people without the advantages of modern technology, capable of being done with the technology available to us right now.
Do a second boer war, and create a giant perimeter of blockhouses an fences, and slowly work inwards from all sides, killing everything that comes near the fence with high-caliber machinegun fire, with an armored unit in reserve to break dug-in positions that cannot be dealt with by massive air support alone.
Burn habitats and food supply with napalm after occupying their fallback food sources, then kill them as they are forced to migrate in a disorderly fashion.
Trade with them, and give them food, water, and other goods just covered in smallpox, measels, black plague, mad cow disease and any other terrible affliction that effects multiple different species of animal, in the hopes that one works and utterly obliterates a backwards non-scientific society
Drop bombs on them, and KEEP DROPPING BOMBS until they are dead, move in with C-17s et al to break what resistence is left in their settlements, and finally push in with an armored spearhead followed by mechanized infantry
Create a defense-in-depth system of fortifications around human settlements, and either make them attack and completely obliterate them with entrenched heavy weapons, or just don't, and let them do their own thing.
Follow mermaids back to their settlements and depth charge them. Literally shooting fish in a barrel.
I'm sure dozens of more well-optimized ways of doing this are possible, and with one thousand years of technology I am sure military matters are completely unrecognizable to me, and I am completely unequipped to use sci-fi superweaponry effectively [not to mention the crutch that I am not a military commander], but these seem like they would work really, really, well. Technology wins wars, and if we have 3000 years of technology on them, not to mention resources and population, Species pose almost no threat as far as I can tell.
[though, why people would kill them is beyond me, when peaceful means appear to be completely viable and optimal for all involved]
What is stopping a modern military from just winning? I am going to throw out some potential strategies I thought of in less than a minute, and you tell me if they would not work against a lowpopulation decentralized group of people without the advantages of modern technology, capable of being done with the technology available to us right now.
Do a second boer war, and create a giant perimeter of blockhouses an fences, and slowly work inwards from all sides, killing everything that comes near the fence with high-caliber machinegun fire, with an armored unit in reserve to break dug-in positions that cannot be dealt with by massive air support alone.
Burn habitats and food supply with napalm after occupying their fallback food sources, then kill them as they are forced to migrate in a disorderly fashion.
Trade with them, and give them food, water, and other goods just covered in smallpox, measels, black plague, mad cow disease and any other terrible affliction that effects multiple different species of animal, in the hopes that one works and utterly obliterates a backwards non-scientific society
Drop bombs on them, and KEEP DROPPING BOMBS until they are dead, move in with C-17s et al to break what resistence is left in their settlements, and finally push in with an armored spearhead followed by mechanized infantry
Create a defense-in-depth system of fortifications around human settlements, and either make them attack and completely obliterate them with entrenched heavy weapons, or just don't, and let them do their own thing.
Follow mermaids back to their settlements and depth charge them. Literally shooting fish in a barrel.
I'm sure dozens of more well-optimized ways of doing this are possible, and with one thousand years of technology I am sure military matters are completely unrecognizable to me, and I am completely unequipped to use sci-fi superweaponry effectively [not to mention the crutch that I am not a military commander], but these seem like they would work really, really, well. Technology wins wars, and if we have 3000 years of technology on them, not to mention resources and population, Species pose almost no threat as far as I can tell.
[though, why people would kill them is beyond me, when peaceful means appear to be completely viable and optimal for all involved]
Dawnsx
Majestic Dinosaur
I wouldn't say that humans have hit transhumanism yet. As for Moore's Law and AI, I will have to that part to SilverBlack, as she is more knowledgeable about that to give a precise answer.
Indeed, all of the methods you mentioned would potentially work, but there are a couple of things that I just have to mention.
Although humans do have advanced technology, you must remember that the Species also have advantages of their own. I'm not just talking about enhanced physical abilities, but magic as well. Since we are against godmodding here, and extremely destructive weapons such as powerful bombs, could be fended off by the Species through their magical abilities. Basically, this roleplay is about technology v.s. fantasy. The whole point of this is to figure out a way to peace.
Also, Species are neither in low population, nor decentralized. The reason that they have never been sighted or studied closely is because they have been hiding. Sure, different groups of Species may not necessarily work together, but within their individual groups of Species, they can be just as organized as humans.
As for the part that Species don't pose a threat, I would like to beg a differ. They can infect humans easily and cause internal chaos.
I'm sorry if I didn't answer everything, as I rushed a bit since I have to log off for now. I will return promptly and answer any of your remaining questions.
Indeed, all of the methods you mentioned would potentially work, but there are a couple of things that I just have to mention.
Although humans do have advanced technology, you must remember that the Species also have advantages of their own. I'm not just talking about enhanced physical abilities, but magic as well. Since we are against godmodding here, and extremely destructive weapons such as powerful bombs, could be fended off by the Species through their magical abilities. Basically, this roleplay is about technology v.s. fantasy. The whole point of this is to figure out a way to peace.
Also, Species are neither in low population, nor decentralized. The reason that they have never been sighted or studied closely is because they have been hiding. Sure, different groups of Species may not necessarily work together, but within their individual groups of Species, they can be just as organized as humans.
As for the part that Species don't pose a threat, I would like to beg a differ. They can infect humans easily and cause internal chaos.
I'm sorry if I didn't answer everything, as I rushed a bit since I have to log off for now. I will return promptly and answer any of your remaining questions.
Pentagon
Newtype Magic
I think it would be easier if I just dropped out. I probably fall under your definition of "god-modding", in that I will constantly be trying to optimize what my character would do, trying to think what I would do in their position.
The game looks super cool, but I just don't think it is for me.
The game looks super cool, but I just don't think it is for me.
SilverBlack
Poopshroom
Despite the strategies not being suitable for this roleplay, it is still hella cool to read. I hope you'll find s roleplay in which these strategies can be perfectly used.Pentagon said:
Rosegurl12
Hello sweethearts
^^. I am happy to join this rp.
A Guileless Fable
A Reality Outside Your Own
Hello folks!
Currently planning on joining this here Rp,
and was just awondering if a cyclops could be a subspecies of giant.
Or do giants appear similar to regular humans apart from the size difference?
Currently planning on joining this here Rp,
and was just awondering if a cyclops could be a subspecies of giant.
Or do giants appear similar to regular humans apart from the size difference?
Dawnsx
Majestic Dinosaur
Giants typically look pretty similar to humans, but there are always some exceptions. I think cyclops as a subspecies would give giants a cool twist and make them more unique, so I think that idea is great.
A Guileless Fable
A Reality Outside Your Own
So would I be able to make a cyclops?
(Didn't want to make one unless I knew for sure.)
(Didn't want to make one unless I knew for sure.)
Dawnsx
Majestic Dinosaur
Go ahead, it's totally fine.
A Guileless Fable
A Reality Outside Your Own
Okie dokie!
I will get started as soon as I get home tonight.
Super late ;A;
I will get started as soon as I get home tonight.
Super late ;A;
Aurelia
Ethereal Guardian
Re: Pentagon's discussion
Very good and interesting points brought up. It's always good to ask questions about the setting so we can roleplay in a cohesive world that we can connect to.
That said, see: Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness (TV Tropes). It's an admirable and cool thought experiment to apply a ton of scientific rigor to a world where magic exists, but I'm more into this roleplay for the idea of "conflict between two very different worlds" rather than "magic vs. science fighting simulation." I think we only need enough science to willingly suspend our disbelief. A thousand years into the future, some stuff can probably be hand-waved.
~ Comments from the peanut gallery / my soap box, directed at no one in particular, and not intended to deepen the debate. If I have an incorrect impression of this RP, someone should swiftly correct me.
Hi all! I see some familiar faces. I'm going to submit a character soon. =)
Very good and interesting points brought up. It's always good to ask questions about the setting so we can roleplay in a cohesive world that we can connect to.
That said, see: Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness (TV Tropes). It's an admirable and cool thought experiment to apply a ton of scientific rigor to a world where magic exists, but I'm more into this roleplay for the idea of "conflict between two very different worlds" rather than "magic vs. science fighting simulation." I think we only need enough science to willingly suspend our disbelief. A thousand years into the future, some stuff can probably be hand-waved.
~ Comments from the peanut gallery / my soap box, directed at no one in particular, and not intended to deepen the debate. If I have an incorrect impression of this RP, someone should swiftly correct me.
Hi all! I see some familiar faces. I'm going to submit a character soon. =)
SilverBlack
Poopshroom
Totally agree with you! I look forward to seeing your character soon. ^^Aurelia said:
A Guileless Fable
A Reality Outside Your Own
Just a curious, but what are the human's current energy source?
I don't believe that they have magic or anything since that belongs to the species (Presumably),
so do they still use coal or some other exhaustible resources or have they found a way to
utilize inexhaustible resources and have become a completely green or at least semi-green community?
Because I was just thinking if they were still using sources such as coal, petroleum, and or nuclear power
how are they still . . . . alive. I mean with the problem of global warming I would suspect the humans to go
extinct and the mermaids reigning supreme with the ice caps having melted completely after 1000 years.
Which also brings makes me question, what was the technological break through that made humans so advanced?
(Curiosity . . .)
Lastly, do species have other things beside magic such as technology or is that only reserved for human use to make it equal?
(I asks this because I kinda want to make a racist (or speciest in this case) character and this is one of the many things I want to
insult humans with.)
I don't believe that they have magic or anything since that belongs to the species (Presumably),
so do they still use coal or some other exhaustible resources or have they found a way to
utilize inexhaustible resources and have become a completely green or at least semi-green community?
Because I was just thinking if they were still using sources such as coal, petroleum, and or nuclear power
how are they still . . . . alive. I mean with the problem of global warming I would suspect the humans to go
extinct and the mermaids reigning supreme with the ice caps having melted completely after 1000 years.
Which also brings makes me question, what was the technological break through that made humans so advanced?
(Curiosity . . .)
Lastly, do species have other things beside magic such as technology or is that only reserved for human use to make it equal?
(I asks this because I kinda want to make a racist (or speciest in this case) character and this is one of the many things I want to
insult humans with.)
Eimi
Mahou Shoujo
[QUOTE="A Guileless Fable]Just a curious, but what are the human's current energy source?
I don't believe that they have magic or anything since that belongs to the species (Presumably),
so do they still use coal or some other exhaustible resources or have they found a way to
utilize inexhaustible resources and have become a completely green or at least semi-green community?
Because I was just thinking if they were still using sources such as coal, petroleum, and or nuclear power
how are they still . . . . alive. I mean with the problem of global warming I would suspect the humans to go
extinct and the mermaids reigning supreme with the ice caps having melted completely after 1000 years.
Which also brings makes me question, what was the technological break through that made humans so advanced?
(Curiosity . . .)
Lastly, do species have other things beside magic such as technology or is that only reserved for human use to make it equal?
(I asks this because I kinda want to make a racist (or speciest in this case) character and this is one of the many things I want to
insult humans with.)
[/QUOTE]
Thank you for taking an interest toward this rp! I will try to answer this to the best of my ability. If you're still confused, please don't be shy to ask more questions.
Concerning the current energy source, I have discussed this with the other admins. We decided that the energy source will hydrogen fuel cell. (Ex: Hydrogen energy) And yes, humans don't have magic unlike the species. The technological advancement is the use of chemical reactions that could form free use of electricity. This also means it applies to weaponries. The species can have technology if they choose to. They could have the modern technological devices that normal human citizens would use in their everyday life. The species can only obtain them by smuggling them. However, this doesn't apply to species who are secretly living in the city.
I don't believe that they have magic or anything since that belongs to the species (Presumably),
so do they still use coal or some other exhaustible resources or have they found a way to
utilize inexhaustible resources and have become a completely green or at least semi-green community?
Because I was just thinking if they were still using sources such as coal, petroleum, and or nuclear power
how are they still . . . . alive. I mean with the problem of global warming I would suspect the humans to go
extinct and the mermaids reigning supreme with the ice caps having melted completely after 1000 years.
Which also brings makes me question, what was the technological break through that made humans so advanced?
(Curiosity . . .)
Lastly, do species have other things beside magic such as technology or is that only reserved for human use to make it equal?
(I asks this because I kinda want to make a racist (or speciest in this case) character and this is one of the many things I want to
insult humans with.)
[/QUOTE]
Thank you for taking an interest toward this rp! I will try to answer this to the best of my ability. If you're still confused, please don't be shy to ask more questions.
Concerning the current energy source, I have discussed this with the other admins. We decided that the energy source will hydrogen fuel cell. (Ex: Hydrogen energy) And yes, humans don't have magic unlike the species. The technological advancement is the use of chemical reactions that could form free use of electricity. This also means it applies to weaponries. The species can have technology if they choose to. They could have the modern technological devices that normal human citizens would use in their everyday life. The species can only obtain them by smuggling them. However, this doesn't apply to species who are secretly living in the city.
Aurelia
Ethereal Guardian
ಠ_ಠ I seriously can't decide between the two character ideas I have. (1) Up-and-coming but naive research scientist who harbors a secret adoration for the Species, despite never having met one. Working on a way to confer immunity to the rest of the non-immune population, she dreams of a world where they live in harmony. She spends her free time trying to stalk Species living in the city, with little success. (2) Quasi-renegade hunter with a hair-trigger temper who reeeeeally doesn't like the Species. But she can't be too renegade, ya know. Or Cacciatore will take away her government-issued equipment. They already consider her a loose cannon.
I know I'd have tons of fun playing either of them...
I know I'd have tons of fun playing either of them...
noname
n/a
@Aurelia I would love to see both characters *^* but if time isn't on your side then seeing the research scientist would be pretty neat! It seems like there aren't any scientists yet, although there are already humans and species. Haha, that's just my opinion- go for the one that seems a heck more fun than the other!!