Hall Kervean
Two Thousand Club
So I saw your thread seconds before it was deleted.
I thought.
Why not.
Ten minutes. This is gonna get deleted. Probably. And I'll have wasted hours.
Original thread said the following:
Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )
can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??
if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?
that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.
So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.
( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).
if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )
same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.
Why should you waste your time?
_______
all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
___________
in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.
cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.
tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
___________________
if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )
5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )
and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
_______________________________
If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.
Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.
if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
____________
Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
_________________________
Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
_____________
if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
That was the original, deleted thread.
Whew! Alrighty
Firstest things first. I am no expert on Hinduism. And I went into this hoping for a convincing argument. Ehh.
It should be noted that my religion is Christianity.
First point you made was that can I remember everything from the moment of my birth to the present day. My favorite part is that you actually ask for it, as if it would fit in a response. But the thing is, no. And I can't see how it ties in the least with anything related to Hinduism. Now, I am no expert in the least related to Hinduism. But I fail to see how whether I remember everything about my life proves, in a practical sense, that Hinduism is the most legitimate religion.
Second point was asking if I could tell every detail (again?) of my... cheapest minute. Or my day or week or month or year or my whole life. My cheapest whole life. In any case, it depends what you mean by "cheapest." There are numerous definitions. If you mean what I look back on and laugh at because I was cheap, I was a young child and currently the most wealthy I had ever been at the time. I had six American dollars. I saw a Mexican store and pointed at it and said "I could buy that if I wanted to." (clearly i was racist). At the time, I had absolutely no understanding of value. I thought that the store would be worth 6 dollars. Around this age I went into a dollar store with a dime and was upset that I couldn't afford anything. So, I mean, if that's what you mean, then ye I do. Do I win a deity?
Third point is a two-parter. Part 1 asks if I can't remember this life (I assume all of it), what's to say I didn't just forget all my past life? In complete seriousness, my response (aside from Hinduism being illegitimate, which isn't a valid response) is the fact that long-term memories exist. Snippets of our past. I may not remember every detail of my entire life, but I can remember a few things of my early years. I remember trying to demolish a little toy garage with toy construction equipment. However, I do not have even a single snippet of my past life. Not a one. I could have been a fairy, I could have been Caesar, I could have been a mild-mannered Christian man. I have no memory of a past life. If I had a past life, then it would seem highly logical that at least a single memory would have appeared. That is not the case.
Part two is if I will forget this life in the future. If I play along, then the answer is... no. It is highly unlikely. If I remember such simple things as racing a friend of ours to a restaurant and saying "We can break the law and put it back together again" in this life, then chances are in the next life I'll remember everything about my Eagle Scout ceremony, my graduation, my job interview, or at least my marriage. Given that either my past life was a loaf who did absolutely nothing his entire life or, as stated before, I had none, there is a small chance that I would forget this life.
Nest point is that it is fact that Krishna exists. Facts are backable by evidence. So far in this thread you haven't put forth any evidence that relates to your point, so it doesn't have any evidence. So far, lord Krishna's existence, much less his inexplicableness, is an opinion.
Then it is declared that there is a next life. There is no evidence presented for this. You presented, at best, faulty evidence for a past life. You have no evidence for a future one.
It is declared that no one; politicians, scientists, etc., can understand the "truth." I decided to google "Hindu politicians." Even if Hinduism was true, they just declared that Ghandi is not a Hindu and is unable to understand the truth.
He declares then that no one can imagine god or the after life. They underestimate the power of imagination! Even assuming all religion was false (Don't agree with it, let's use it as an example), then their statement is disproven by the existence of people believing in religion.
Then an example is given. My father existed before birth, therefore, I cannot say my father didn't exist before my birth. It's... not untrue, but I feel like that has nothing to do with the point being made. MAYBE there was some sort of stretch that said that since fathers exist before birth, you can't say they don't, and as a result (somehow, you existed before birth. Thing is... my father and I are two separate individuals. The difference? One existed before my birth.
Then I ask my mother, "who is my father." And she points, and it is alright. Somehow this example excludes anyone who lives in a stable household where this isn't... even a question. But that's just nitpicking.
Otherwise, if I... make research, who is my father go on searching for life doesn't find father.
http://fox40.com/2017/06/16/after-40-years-father-and-daughter-meet-for-the-1st-time/
Now, then I say I can prove it via DNA (not untrue) or pictures (yup) or many other things that I got from my mother (Accidentally clever. I got my DNA from my mother.) Then I have to believe an authority. Who is the authority? The scientists who did the bloodwork? The specialists who looked through everythign to correlate the father with the picture? No, it's my mom. Moms are the best.
Also I can't claim any pictures without my mom's authority. Can't and won't are very different, sweetie.
This is kind of unclear, but I'll do my very best. Basically, I think, if the proof is not received by your mother, then it's illegitimate. So if... the mother doesn't intercede and deliver you the results of the bloodwork from the doctor, it's illegitimate... Hun, we're gonna have to have a very long discussion on authority.
I have to follow real authority. Like the police? The government? My parents? Those above me at work, in school, in extracurricular activities, in the military? No. The only legitimate authorities are Devala, Narada, and Vyasa (yes I copy and pasted hush). Note that... Krishna wasn't mentioned...
#KrishnaNewsNetwork Krishna colluded with Russia to get himself elected as president of Hinduism!
I'm sure OP will say it's a big nothingburger.
Then they say a few funny things.
First, they give instructions on how to convert in the middle of they're argument (in fact, towards the beginning).
Then they say that it is unnecessary to research the god you worship. As a Christian who has investigated his faith and pondered the Word of the Lord immensely... I call religious puppet!
I want to point out that all authorities accept Krishna. If they don't then the train of thought can be led that they are illegitimate authorities. Down with the government! Boo! Stupid bipartisanship!
Then they break the fourth wall and, in a grammatically correct sentence, asks "Why are you wasting your time?" My answer is that it's none of your business.
Then they compare my mom with a Hindu god. Leave my mother out of this!
And then they proceed to assure their audience that they aren't making this up and it's for realz. To be honest, if they're being serious, then the chances of me becoming a Hindu just went from slightly above zero to zero.
In this world, no one can be peaceful. That is a fact.
BOO! OBJECTION! In the last 3,400 years, the entirety of humanity has been at complete peace with each other for 268 of them.
We are suffering from four problems which are disease, old age, death, and birth after birth. I am unsure what the last one is.
Environmentalists, clearly Krishna doesn't care about your problems. Crime is a nonissue unless it leads to death. Apparently the world has achieved economic stability. Racial tensions are nonexistent.
Aw frick. OP u troll. Had me hopes up.
Happiness is temporary for all, though joy can be eternal.
Apparently Donald J. Trump is a bundle of joy. If you're not happy then you will ignore these problems.
I object; Ignorance is bliss!
And also if you're unhappy you are being "forced by Nature..." I'm losing faith that this individual isn't making this stuff up.
Guide to happiness
"seems legit"
No illicit sex. Well, I suppose the Bible condemns that. I haven't done that. Check THAT off the list! 1/6 of the way to eternal happiness. Seems legit.
No gambling. Well, I guess that people do often go completely broke because of gambling. Haven't done it myself, so check it off the list. Seems legit.
No drugs. Well, I g- (no tea or coffee) OBJECTION! Have you ever met someone who relies on coffee and hasn't had it yet? I assure you, they aren't as happy as you might imagine. But I suppose I don't like either of them (lie. I'm eh about sweet tea) so CHECK!
No meat-eating. *flips table* VEGANS WERE RIGHT. The only way to happiness is through VEGANISM!
Also no garlic or onions for some reason.
The fifth thing is to first offer your food to Krishna. That's great and all, but what if you're starving and krishna actually accepts? Then you're dead! Great going, happiness.
The sixth thing is to... chant something. I don't even know. Look, Christianity doesn't even demand this. I don't even know. Any muslims here can probably talk better on chanting stuff. Not even insulting muslims; saying they could come up with better comebacks than me.
Then the option is literally given to disregard the first four essential pillars of happiness as long as you chant. Like bro. Nuh. That's not how essential pillars work. If you knock a pillar down, it's fine. If you knock an essential pillar down, it's all coming down. If you knock down four...
Then they instruct us to chant it and be happy. *raises finger*
If it doesn't work, may we be excused?
If I still don't believe him, chant any otehr holy name for 5 minutes then chant Krishna's for fie mintues and see the effect, Probably because that does nothing in any other religion. Islam waits until certain hours and prays a designated prayer. Christians don't even, and I don't think Judaism does either.
Also, if it doesn't work, can we officially declare your religion false and heretical?
Then it's instructed that we need to chant it 16 times per day, 108 "beads" per... time, I guess. Sounds like too much work for eternal happiness to me, fam. I mean, daily? Whew, m8.
I think... he just said that one should not question the quotes from the holy books, the personal experiences of some (Well, the Joker said murdering people makes people happy, so who am I to question his personal experience?), and faith or belief.
Then they recognize (took you long enough) that sometimes faith is blind. *cough cough*
Then he... Ahaha THEN he says that his practical explanation proves that every unbeliever is a busy (That's a good thing?) foolish idiot. Aahahhahha!
His first source: "every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )"
So basically, his source is the fact that everyone in the world is blind. And because of that, everyone should follow someone who has Spiritual Eyes.
THAT IS THE SOURCE.
Ok, I'm being harsh. He gives a legitimate source.
https://www.asitis.com/
To be entirely honest, I read the table of contents and gave up on refuting anything from there. That is the only source for the argument though
( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
if anyone wants to know why this man is in the material world (they were... born?), who they are (don't share ur real information on the internet, children.), what will happen after this life (Heaven and hell. Some variation for every other religion.), what is the best thing to make your life perfect (PRACTICE!), and what is perfection of human life (Subjective). The purpose of human life is not to live like an animal (Trolls aren't animals!). Everyone is currently eating, sleeping, having sex, and fearing (Including virgins... somehow.) The purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth (wth is this never explained), old age, disease and death.
Or, alternatively;
Live to be who you want to be.
Achieve your dreams.
Praise the Lord and worship Him and follow Him.
Serve others the best you can.
Be an example.
Achieve greatness.
I tried to approach this not as a Christian, but kind of objectively. Kind of.
Either way, I smiled a great deal. Made my day.
This thread is so gonna get deleted for something. 10 dollars.
I thought.
Why not.
Ten minutes. This is gonna get deleted. Probably. And I'll have wasted hours.
Original thread said the following:
Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )
can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??
if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?
that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
_______
for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.
So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.
( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).
if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )
same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.
Why should you waste your time?
_______
all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
___________
in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.
cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.
tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
___________________
if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )
5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )
and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
_______________________________
If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.
Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.
if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
____________
Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
_________________________
Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
_____________
if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
That was the original, deleted thread.
Whew! Alrighty
Firstest things first. I am no expert on Hinduism. And I went into this hoping for a convincing argument. Ehh.
It should be noted that my religion is Christianity.
First point you made was that can I remember everything from the moment of my birth to the present day. My favorite part is that you actually ask for it, as if it would fit in a response. But the thing is, no. And I can't see how it ties in the least with anything related to Hinduism. Now, I am no expert in the least related to Hinduism. But I fail to see how whether I remember everything about my life proves, in a practical sense, that Hinduism is the most legitimate religion.
Second point was asking if I could tell every detail (again?) of my... cheapest minute. Or my day or week or month or year or my whole life. My cheapest whole life. In any case, it depends what you mean by "cheapest." There are numerous definitions. If you mean what I look back on and laugh at because I was cheap, I was a young child and currently the most wealthy I had ever been at the time. I had six American dollars. I saw a Mexican store and pointed at it and said "I could buy that if I wanted to." (clearly i was racist). At the time, I had absolutely no understanding of value. I thought that the store would be worth 6 dollars. Around this age I went into a dollar store with a dime and was upset that I couldn't afford anything. So, I mean, if that's what you mean, then ye I do. Do I win a deity?
Third point is a two-parter. Part 1 asks if I can't remember this life (I assume all of it), what's to say I didn't just forget all my past life? In complete seriousness, my response (aside from Hinduism being illegitimate, which isn't a valid response) is the fact that long-term memories exist. Snippets of our past. I may not remember every detail of my entire life, but I can remember a few things of my early years. I remember trying to demolish a little toy garage with toy construction equipment. However, I do not have even a single snippet of my past life. Not a one. I could have been a fairy, I could have been Caesar, I could have been a mild-mannered Christian man. I have no memory of a past life. If I had a past life, then it would seem highly logical that at least a single memory would have appeared. That is not the case.
Part two is if I will forget this life in the future. If I play along, then the answer is... no. It is highly unlikely. If I remember such simple things as racing a friend of ours to a restaurant and saying "We can break the law and put it back together again" in this life, then chances are in the next life I'll remember everything about my Eagle Scout ceremony, my graduation, my job interview, or at least my marriage. Given that either my past life was a loaf who did absolutely nothing his entire life or, as stated before, I had none, there is a small chance that I would forget this life.
Nest point is that it is fact that Krishna exists. Facts are backable by evidence. So far in this thread you haven't put forth any evidence that relates to your point, so it doesn't have any evidence. So far, lord Krishna's existence, much less his inexplicableness, is an opinion.
Then it is declared that there is a next life. There is no evidence presented for this. You presented, at best, faulty evidence for a past life. You have no evidence for a future one.
It is declared that no one; politicians, scientists, etc., can understand the "truth." I decided to google "Hindu politicians." Even if Hinduism was true, they just declared that Ghandi is not a Hindu and is unable to understand the truth.
He declares then that no one can imagine god or the after life. They underestimate the power of imagination! Even assuming all religion was false (Don't agree with it, let's use it as an example), then their statement is disproven by the existence of people believing in religion.
Then an example is given. My father existed before birth, therefore, I cannot say my father didn't exist before my birth. It's... not untrue, but I feel like that has nothing to do with the point being made. MAYBE there was some sort of stretch that said that since fathers exist before birth, you can't say they don't, and as a result (somehow, you existed before birth. Thing is... my father and I are two separate individuals. The difference? One existed before my birth.
Then I ask my mother, "who is my father." And she points, and it is alright. Somehow this example excludes anyone who lives in a stable household where this isn't... even a question. But that's just nitpicking.
Otherwise, if I... make research, who is my father go on searching for life doesn't find father.
http://fox40.com/2017/06/16/after-40-years-father-and-daughter-meet-for-the-1st-time/
Now, then I say I can prove it via DNA (not untrue) or pictures (yup) or many other things that I got from my mother (Accidentally clever. I got my DNA from my mother.) Then I have to believe an authority. Who is the authority? The scientists who did the bloodwork? The specialists who looked through everythign to correlate the father with the picture? No, it's my mom. Moms are the best.
Also I can't claim any pictures without my mom's authority. Can't and won't are very different, sweetie.
This is kind of unclear, but I'll do my very best. Basically, I think, if the proof is not received by your mother, then it's illegitimate. So if... the mother doesn't intercede and deliver you the results of the bloodwork from the doctor, it's illegitimate... Hun, we're gonna have to have a very long discussion on authority.
I have to follow real authority. Like the police? The government? My parents? Those above me at work, in school, in extracurricular activities, in the military? No. The only legitimate authorities are Devala, Narada, and Vyasa (yes I copy and pasted hush). Note that... Krishna wasn't mentioned...
#KrishnaNewsNetwork Krishna colluded with Russia to get himself elected as president of Hinduism!
I'm sure OP will say it's a big nothingburger.
Then they say a few funny things.
First, they give instructions on how to convert in the middle of they're argument (in fact, towards the beginning).
Then they say that it is unnecessary to research the god you worship. As a Christian who has investigated his faith and pondered the Word of the Lord immensely... I call religious puppet!
I want to point out that all authorities accept Krishna. If they don't then the train of thought can be led that they are illegitimate authorities. Down with the government! Boo! Stupid bipartisanship!
Then they break the fourth wall and, in a grammatically correct sentence, asks "Why are you wasting your time?" My answer is that it's none of your business.
Then they compare my mom with a Hindu god. Leave my mother out of this!
And then they proceed to assure their audience that they aren't making this up and it's for realz. To be honest, if they're being serious, then the chances of me becoming a Hindu just went from slightly above zero to zero.
In this world, no one can be peaceful. That is a fact.
BOO! OBJECTION! In the last 3,400 years, the entirety of humanity has been at complete peace with each other for 268 of them.
We are suffering from four problems which are disease, old age, death, and birth after birth. I am unsure what the last one is.
Environmentalists, clearly Krishna doesn't care about your problems. Crime is a nonissue unless it leads to death. Apparently the world has achieved economic stability. Racial tensions are nonexistent.
Aw frick. OP u troll. Had me hopes up.
Happiness is temporary for all, though joy can be eternal.
Apparently Donald J. Trump is a bundle of joy. If you're not happy then you will ignore these problems.
I object; Ignorance is bliss!
And also if you're unhappy you are being "forced by Nature..." I'm losing faith that this individual isn't making this stuff up.
Guide to happiness
"seems legit"
No illicit sex. Well, I suppose the Bible condemns that. I haven't done that. Check THAT off the list! 1/6 of the way to eternal happiness. Seems legit.
No gambling. Well, I guess that people do often go completely broke because of gambling. Haven't done it myself, so check it off the list. Seems legit.
No drugs. Well, I g- (no tea or coffee) OBJECTION! Have you ever met someone who relies on coffee and hasn't had it yet? I assure you, they aren't as happy as you might imagine. But I suppose I don't like either of them (lie. I'm eh about sweet tea) so CHECK!
No meat-eating. *flips table* VEGANS WERE RIGHT. The only way to happiness is through VEGANISM!
Also no garlic or onions for some reason.
The fifth thing is to first offer your food to Krishna. That's great and all, but what if you're starving and krishna actually accepts? Then you're dead! Great going, happiness.
The sixth thing is to... chant something. I don't even know. Look, Christianity doesn't even demand this. I don't even know. Any muslims here can probably talk better on chanting stuff. Not even insulting muslims; saying they could come up with better comebacks than me.
Then the option is literally given to disregard the first four essential pillars of happiness as long as you chant. Like bro. Nuh. That's not how essential pillars work. If you knock a pillar down, it's fine. If you knock an essential pillar down, it's all coming down. If you knock down four...
Then they instruct us to chant it and be happy. *raises finger*
If it doesn't work, may we be excused?
If I still don't believe him, chant any otehr holy name for 5 minutes then chant Krishna's for fie mintues and see the effect, Probably because that does nothing in any other religion. Islam waits until certain hours and prays a designated prayer. Christians don't even, and I don't think Judaism does either.
Also, if it doesn't work, can we officially declare your religion false and heretical?
Then it's instructed that we need to chant it 16 times per day, 108 "beads" per... time, I guess. Sounds like too much work for eternal happiness to me, fam. I mean, daily? Whew, m8.
I think... he just said that one should not question the quotes from the holy books, the personal experiences of some (Well, the Joker said murdering people makes people happy, so who am I to question his personal experience?), and faith or belief.
Then they recognize (took you long enough) that sometimes faith is blind. *cough cough*
Then he... Ahaha THEN he says that his practical explanation proves that every unbeliever is a busy (That's a good thing?) foolish idiot. Aahahhahha!
His first source: "every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )"
So basically, his source is the fact that everyone in the world is blind. And because of that, everyone should follow someone who has Spiritual Eyes.
THAT IS THE SOURCE.
Ok, I'm being harsh. He gives a legitimate source.
https://www.asitis.com/
To be entirely honest, I read the table of contents and gave up on refuting anything from there. That is the only source for the argument though
( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
if anyone wants to know why this man is in the material world (they were... born?), who they are (don't share ur real information on the internet, children.), what will happen after this life (Heaven and hell. Some variation for every other religion.), what is the best thing to make your life perfect (PRACTICE!), and what is perfection of human life (Subjective). The purpose of human life is not to live like an animal (Trolls aren't animals!). Everyone is currently eating, sleeping, having sex, and fearing (Including virgins... somehow.) The purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth (wth is this never explained), old age, disease and death.
Or, alternatively;
Live to be who you want to be.
Achieve your dreams.
Praise the Lord and worship Him and follow Him.
Serve others the best you can.
Be an example.
Achieve greatness.
I tried to approach this not as a Christian, but kind of objectively. Kind of.
Either way, I smiled a great deal. Made my day.
This thread is so gonna get deleted for something. 10 dollars.
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