Gender

[PyroWarriorZ]

OK this may only be who this happens, but some members, actually many tend to have unisex usernames or usernames so weird we just have no idea. Well I know in their profile page it says their gender, but sometimes when we are just randomly chatting to them or in games, there can be those confusing and embarassing moments when you say him instead of her or vice versa especially when you don't RP with that person or know them.


So I was just thinking, maybe you feel it's unnecessary, but we could just have the gender symbol in their posts, like next to the username or just below it, like near the title. It doesn't have to even say male or female, we can just use the symbol to save space and then we can avoid those mix ups.


Anyway, you may think this is useless or unnecessary, but I just thought I'd at least suggest it...

 

[GgAcE]

Done. Does these meet your expectations?


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[PyroWarriorZ]

Amazingly, wow. No more gender confusion, awesome! Now I won't feel embarrassed when I call someone the wrong pronoun. It's awesome, thanks Ace!


The icon looks like it overlaps a bit with the user title, but that is such a small thing. The rest looks pretty awesome, it's amazing!


*Applauds Ace*

 

[Hippopotamus]

Woah, that's cool. :3 Thanks, Ace. You keep giving us cool stuff, I don't know what to say X3 bad at complementing people.


//posts to test this out

 

[PyroWarriorZ]

Cool, I guess if you didn't specify your gender it stays neutral which is a good thing for people who are quite sure where they fit in or simply don't wish to share.

 

[GgAcE]

I will have a quick fix for the icons shortly. I will announce it in the announcement section in a moment.

 

[PyroWarriorZ]

No problem, you always on top of things :wink:


Well done and thank you, much appreciated and I hope others find it useful besides me.

 

[Chiba Masato]

Why did you have to use me as an example?

 

[Sen Pai]

[QUOTE="Chiba Masato]Why did you have to use me as an example?

[/QUOTE]
Because we're famous! *dramatic pose* Fabulous!~

 

[GgAcE]

It was the first post that displayed as male and female. 100% random.

 

[Ember Spark]

Thanks Ace. This looks really good. :3 ^^

 

[Cybele]

IMO that's actually... really dumb?


Okay, maybe not dumb. But definitely unnecessary and cis-normative.


Just because I identify as a female does not mean that I want my icon to be baby pink and stamped with the GIRL symbol.


There are plenty of gender-ambiguous pronouns (they, them/ze, hir/using their names) and if you really want to reference their gender you could just do this crazy thing called asking. If their gender isn't on their profile then it's not there for a reason and you should respect that.


Anyway, it's not a huge issue but that's my two cents. Guess I'll just go back to the old theme.

 

[GgAcE]

If their gender isn't on their profile then it's not there for a reason and you should respect that.

& I do by leaving it blank when unspecified. As for the pink vs blue, it's taken from the olden days where "baby boy" = blue clothes & "baby girl" = pink clothes. I am sorry you disapprove. I can't appease everyone :sorry:

 

[PyroWarriorZ]

IMO that's actually... really dumb?
Okay, maybe not dumb. But definitely unnecessary and cis-normative.


Just because I identify as a female does not mean that I want my icon to be baby pink and stamped with the GIRL symbol.


There are plenty of gender-ambiguous pronouns (they, them/ze, hir/using their names) and if you really want to reference their gender you could just do this crazy thing called asking. If their gender isn't on their profile then it's not there for a reason and you should respect that.


Anyway, it's not a huge issue but that's my two cents. Guess I'll just go back to the old theme.

Like Ace said, if people don't want their gender known they simply don't have to label it. He gave that option, while I do understand the idea of pink for girl is old school and stereotypical, it is still what most people know and identify with, as silly as it is.


But if you wish to blame, blame me. I asked for it, and yes a lot of the time one can simply ask someone what gender to use. Sometimes we don't think of it, or we just assume especially when we just mention someone in a game, especially someone we know. So it's simply to try avoid those quick mistakes, but for people who don't wish to share, they can still remain without a symbol or color. Having the choice for both options allows both sides to be happy.

 

[Cybele]

Like Ace said, if people don't want their gender known they simply don't have to label it. He gave that option, while I do understand the idea of pink for girl is old school and stereotypical, it is still what most people know and identify with, as silly as it is.
But if you wish to blame, blame me. I asked for it, and yes a lot of the time one can simply ask someone what gender to use. Sometimes we don't think of it, or we just assume especially when we just mention someone in a game, especially someone we know. So it's simply to try avoid those quick mistakes, but for people who don't wish to share, they can still remain without a symbol or color. Having the choice for both options allows both sides to be happy.

As I said, it's not really a big deal. I can just switch themes.


And it's not like I'm angry at you, or "blaming" anyone-- I didn't mean to come across that way. I was just expressing my opinion and trying to get people to think about it differently.


I still believe that assigning pink to girls and blue to boys and segregating them by their icons is just... cis-normative, unnecessary, and tacky. It's also sticking to narrow and antiquated views of the gender binary (pink= feminity! blue= masculinity! You can't be both you have to pick one!!).


It's like... well, I'm African American, and sometimes people accidentally assume that I'm white and get kind of embarrassed about it when I tell them (even though I don't mind at all, no big deal). But even though having an icon that was, like, brown and had the NAACP symbol on it would save me the trouble of having to tell them, I still don't want that-- just cause it's unnecessary and tacky and segregational. That's the kind of thing you might put in your 'Information' section, not directly on your icon. But why not, you ask? Shouldn't I be proud of my race? I am proud of my race and I am proud of my gender, but that doesn't mean I want either of them advertised on my icon. It's not the 1950's anymore-- and I much prefer blue to pink, anyway


Whew, that was a lot. I get kinda into things like this.


tl;dr: I'm not mad and I'm not blaming anyone so don't sweat it. I just hate the gender binary... and the color pink.

 

[PyroWarriorZ]

Fair enough, I do agree blue for boys and pink for girls is antiquated and silly. However while you are right it is not necessary to advertise your gender, for those that wish to show it to avoid any pronoun confusion, they have that option and those who do not wish to show it also still have that option.


Anyway all I'm saying, is we don't disagree with your point or opinion at all your, you are quite correct. You should not have to advertise, we are just saying Ace was wise enough to make the option for both. So you do not have to advertise it on your icon, Ace just made it possible for those who do want it shown. Those who don't leave it as unspecified.

 

[GgAcE]

Just wanted to thank everyone for their input. I have made an announcement thread about this so we can continue the discussion there. At this time I feel it necessary to close out this request.


Thank you again for your input.


Your friend


~Gg