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Jakk Bey

Jakk Bey

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Plain and simple.  How evil do you go?


Not just with the Horror aspect.  Not just with ST nastiness.  Just how wrong do y'all make your villains?  


I'm talking about your worst wrongs.  The spine twisting, breath taking, shocking evil of your villains.  Not just killing and maiming--that's easy and perhaps over emphasized in the Abyssals book--but how much wrong do you feel comfortable bringing to the table?  Wallowing in their own crapulance, evil?  Justifiable and logical evil?   Mad and insane wrong?  


Give unto me your nastiest bits.  Epic wrong.  The kind of wrong that makes legends tremble and even shocks the jaded Gods.  Yozi size corruption.  Deathlords playing with nations scale of wrong.  Revenge Lintha style.  Maddened Solars or Lunars from the First Age badness.
 
Hmm, I believe one event sticks out in my mind, I had used it once, Lintha style revenge. I've always been of the belief they MAKE your community remember who you fucked with when you die. So an NPC in a town the PCs had been living in had been fucking about with the Lintha, toying with a few of their merchants, and well...he was found one morning, cruxified upside down, his own gentials stuffed down his throat, left ot bleed to death and choke. They never fucked with the Lintha again.
 
The Dynast in my campaign, who started a long assassination spree of several individuals, that the players uncovered but could not do anything about since the assassinations were slightly favorable for their house as well. He had several complete innocents brutally murdered, but in the end it was not for political gain or for the good of the empire or his house - it was so he could secure his personal income, so he could go on living his hedonistic life of slaves, wine and constant drug-use on his pleasure barge, uncaring of the rest of the world and the fact that the empire is crumbling around him.


The players were pretty disturbed when he explained how carefully he went through innocents and politicians alike just so he could get his share, and the fact that if they tried to stop it, they would act against their own house and would end up worse off, despite having done something good.
 
Pretty good, I've got a few more stories, one involves a Murder Spirit and his toll he wanted from a young God Blood of thirteen to be exact. Oooooh, he made him do some terrible things. The worst murder was of a transient in the slums of Nexus. The murder spirit wanted his death quick and as brutal as possible. So my PC was inventive...he grabbed his neck, put a bag over his head, slit his throat and bashed his skull in on a wall...yeah...that was wild.


I was scared of Jake for an hour, lol.


Another would have to be the massive orgy that they snuck into in another game. A House Cynis orgy. Some of the shit I described made my characters sick...and my Compassion guys took a shitload of Limit. Yeah, there were drugs, a bit of bondage in one corner and even some younger slaves...My PCs almost threw down in a room of a few dozen naked couples doing everything imaginable, they were dressed scantly as well, trying to get through, it would have been a hell of a fight, but they found the villain they were stalking and trailed out. But my Solars marked the freaky DBs with the younger slaves.


And they were never heard from again.
 
I realize in retrospect that my "evil story" doesn't sound so evil, but it could be added that all these innocents were like.. good guys, that the characters knew and had come to like, some of them who really wanted a nice and good empire, some of them really charming and joyful individuals, the sorts that are very uncommon in creation. And now they're all dead.


What hit them the most tho, was the fact that they heard about the plan before it all happened, and then met the people who were to be murdered.. and just.. knew, that these people would be dead. Soon, any day, and they just could not tell them, but had to sit there and pretend that they were still diplomatically neutral.
 
Hmmm, of all the evil an incident that one of my players orchestrated springs to mind. He played a rogue Dragon Blood at the time who, with his consort, had stumbled upon my solars as they were (and still are) struggling to build a nation with a people of a few thousand desparate individuals. This DB is a bussinesman through and through and he decided to travel to the neighboring country, where he had contacts, to get his hands on a few artifact weapons. As an investment. Helping this people could make him a lot of money in the end.


So he travels over a mountain in the middle of the winter with a dozen brave souls to help him, purchases his artifacts and gets back. On the way back Calibration is nearing fast. In my setting Calibration falls at the end of the season of air and this takes place in the north. So it is freezing and dangerous as all hell to travel. But he pushes on. Five of the men tries to make it over the mountain before Calibration, but they realize that it cannnot be done. The men tries to talk him out of this insane enterprise, but in the interest of profit he insists on pushing on. And he insists on having at least one guide. So these brave men, knowing that the journey is suicide, discuss who is to accompany him. They agree on the one with the least family and affiliations, says their goodbyes and go back to the safety of a nearby town.


Of course his guide dies. And of course he is almost killed in an avalanche himself. This is a story of contrasts. The guides and warriors were all brave an honorful and willing to sacrifice their lives to secure the future of their people, while the DB did what he could to secure a steady income for himself. The best part is that when the four survivors return home they will honor him as as brave and honorful as themself. That is in my eyes and incident of perfect, small scale evil.
 
Very, very nice. I've done a number of things that are evil in my games as an ST for shock and story purposes and as a PC. I shall post them later today ^^;
 
I don't know if this is really dripping with pure, black, smoldering evil, but here's perhaps the cruellest thing I ever did to my players:


One of my PCs had a small naval fleet. I wiped out all the ships with an angry sea god, leaving much of the crew dead as well.


The god wasn't done yet, however, and demanded that, if they planned to ever make it off the beach they ended up marooned on, he'd receive either the PC, or 100 of his surviving men, as a sacrifice.


He chose the 100 men route. It was pretty heart-wrenching. Turned into some really good RP, actually.


-S
 
Cruel would have been to have the Sea God scream "That was a test! You would sacrifce those Mortals who you are supposed to serve to save your own skin!"  And then drowned their sorry asses, and floated the Mortals to shore to spread the news of the Anathema and their nasty ways...
 
I haven't been terribly evil in my GM'ing experience, but I haven't run Unknown Armies yet. That game will be one long string of sick and twisted individuals.


The worst thing I've done was let a guy get mauled by a giant dog because he was being dumb. That and I grabbed a character with a giant (30ft) stick-bug, but I also let those players build a makeshift hovercraft and use a giant radio antenna dish as a half-pipe.
 
I had a game a while back where one of my players wrote a decent indepth background.  He said he had a large family, and i asked about kids. He said 8 kids and named them etc. I asked for ages and none where older than 10 due to triplets. So i had them kidnapped and an abyssal used them for the plague weapon in bone & ebony where you break the kids jaws and write runes on their teeth and sew their lungs together. weapon of maleific cacophany or something (no book to get the name right).  It made for a good villian whom the player rightfully loathed.  Course that was many moons ago and i had just read B of B&E and really wanted to use that weapon.
 
loociddrmr said:
I had a game a while back where one of my players wrote a decent indepth background.  He said he had a large family, and i asked about kids. He said 8 kids and named them etc. I asked for ages and none where older than 10 due to triplets. So i had them kidnapped and an abyssal used them for the plague weapon in bone & ebony where you break the kids jaws and write runes on their teeth and sew their lungs together. weapon of maleific cacophany or something (no book to get the name right).  It made for a good villian whom the player rightfully loathed.  Course that was many moons ago and i had just read B of B&E and really wanted to use that weapon.
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It's, "Weapon of Mephitic Desolation."


And YOU, my friend, are EVIL.
 
This is more dramatic storytelling than bonafide evil:


  In the epic Solar campaign I was in, the Circle took over the governance of one of the Hundred Kingdoms fairly early on in the game. The original rulers (a self-titled House, with some Terrestrial lineage that's all but gone nowadays) were convinced rather bloodlessly that our rule would be for the best. Having the city father backing us didn't hurt.


 The heir to the throne was a little kid that the Circle doted on. We taught him as much as was good for him--and a bit beyond. Kinda funny how the teaching went--the Dawn ended up teaching him Occult, and the Twilight taught him swordcraft; there was this whole bit about us being better teachers in subjects we had to learn bit by bit ourselves, instead of it coming naturally.


 In any case, the kid grew up. And became a fine young man. And Exalted as a Sidereal.


 He was the one that told us when we had to head towards the Isle, to reclaim the Imperial Manse. And he came with us to the Battle of the Palace Sublime.


 The Gold Faction had carved a bloody path for us to Kejak already, taking down Kejak's Inner Circle at the price of Ura and most of the seniors of the Faction. Upon confronting Kejak, he ignored us while asking our kid if he was willing to reconsider his position. When our kid declined, Kejak killed him before turning to us.


 Did we pay back Kejak in spades? Absolutely. And was it a grand, dramatic scene that the players would never forget? Certainly.


 But did most of us get a bit teary-eyed and more than a bit hateful towards the ST for killing off our kid--that we had helped raise for the past ten years, and saw a bit of ourselves in him?


 [wipes back of hand across eyes]
 
Well, just last session, they finally ran into their first Abyssal.


He was one of the ones that didn't survive the Fae assault that triggered their various Exaltations. After the mess, they hadn't found his body.


He's exceedingly polite still, having a friendly conversation while sewing together two people in his first spine chain attempt. His left arm is using bone graft technique. The arm in question was Old Mac, their company cook. Everyone loved him, he was the old guy that dispensed wisdom.


And now, he's parts.
 
An oddly evil PC move in one of my games that I'm reminded of due to Operations' post. Oddly enough. O.o But, my PC was a Day caste Abyssal and he was prowling around an armed camp of Terrestrials. The Terrestrials of Saloy Hin, who had just recently come into the possession of the Eye.


Well MoW wanted info, and so he got what he needed, snuck into the camps and found out what was needed. Under the guise of another face. And so a week later, he left the camp, but not before leaving a...gift. There were several outcastes that he had been at odds with in the camp. So he killed them all in their sleep, used a flesh crafting charm, leaving a very alive and screaming sign for the camp the next morn, all the faces carved with a Joker-esque smile in their faces.


It was creative and so very creepy. I loved it, wonderfully evil.
 
So he killed them all in their sleep, used a flesh crafting charm, leaving a very alive and screaming sign for the camp the next morn, all the faces carved with a Joker-esque smile in their faces.
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I am confused, where they dead and the camp was screaming or...did the flesh crafting charm cause the dead guys to scream.  I just don't understand how those guys were dead yet screaming...


Perhaps I need to read the book eh?


Hey look 100th post!  Yeah!
 
Another evil thing I did, was when the DB's rode through a village and commanded the villagers to throw a party in their honor, using all their spare food for the winter ( Yes, that was pretty evil, but that was my players, not I ). Then, I described how the children of the village carried out the food and the grownups were trying to cheer and look happy, because the DB's told them to.


So I took control of one of the servants to a PC, and told the others how he brought up a bamboo stick and went off to start hitting the adults and children who werent smiling enough, so that they would know that they should show NO DISPLEASEMENT! at honoring the princes of the earth with all their stashed food. Twap, twap, bamboo stick over children backs :P "Smile! Be happy! THis is an honor and your duty!"
 
That's straight-up cruel, Z.


A player of mine in this Changeling game I ran a couple years ago did something so gruesome and inspired, I had to award him a style point for it.  He's a kind of unofficial knight-errant to the duke of the Unseelie Court in Boston, dispatched to get a pretty-boy mage off the duchess of the Seelie Court.  So he's like, "I'm going to go behind a restaurant and check out the dumpster.  Is there a cat near the dumpster?"


ME: (bemused) Sure, there's a kitten.


HIM: Okay, I kill it with a throwing knife and then cut off it's head.


ME: (too stunned to protest) Um, okay.


HIM: Then I put the head in my pocket and go to his apartment.


So he goes to the guy's apartment, does some cantrip where he draws a door in the roof, pops down into his room.  The mage and his girlfriend are there at the time, so he hides under the bed until they're out of the room.  Then he leaves the kitten head on the dude's bed, with a note - written in kitten blood - to the effect of, "See where curiousity will get you?"  He phrased it way better than that, but you get the point.  I was in awe.
 
Oh, come on... that's nothing compared to the stories we've heard of Stillborn's exploits as a Tzimisce in V:tM.
 
Zaramis said:
Twap, twap, bamboo stick over children backs :P "Smile! Be happy! THis is an honor and your duty!"
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You're a fucking asshole.   :D


-S
 
Games I've played in usually steer pretty clear of the really twisted stuff. The closest game to anything described here was a W:TA game I played in where the GM got the Black Spiral Dancers pretty much bang-on in their fuckupedness. One player confessed to having nightmares, but I never really thought twice about it.


There was an L5R game where one of my players cut the ears off of a peasant who had been gossiping too much. While the act in itself could have been worse, it was the manner in which the player in question approached it that got to me. I dunno...it just...bothered me afterwards.
 
That can happen in l5r. There's an odd balance of honor and etiquette that doesn't really resemble morals at all. That and the violence is usually pretty intense, even if you don't have Maho Tsukai or Oni running around.
 
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