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Kyero said:
She wouldn't care if Raze followed, but Raze wouldn't have been able to just send a message and then be with Zyra. With her speed she was disappearing before their eyes and then reappearing inside the medical facility barking orders the instant their brains processed that she was gone. He'd have to spend a few minutes flying to the base, given his condition, and then hoping nobody killed him before he found Zyra to ask to help out.
That's pretty much what happened. He snuck off without anyone noticing (Or maybe someone did!) and during his flight, he created the message.
 
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So, a few pages earlier you mentioned that our PL's would be in the 3 million range when Inecros caught up with us, correct? Well, 3 milion x 50 = 150 million, AKA slightly higher than Inecros' maximum power. So let me guess how this is going to go down: Inecros will wipe the floor with us for a page or two, Era will pull the Super Saiyan state out of her ass, and then beat the shit out of him. I'm right, aren't I?


Also, anyone interested in watching @Denezen's face claim (which was deleted when he went silent, sadly) take on Little Mac? Please watch the video, it's glorious.


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Genon said:
@Kyero
So, a few pages earlier you mentioned that our PL's would be in the 3 million range when Inecros caught up with us, correct? Well, 3 milion x 50 = 150 million, AKA slightly higher than Inecros' maximum power. So let me guess how this is going to go down: Inecros will wipe the floor with us for a page or two, Era will pull the Super Saiyan state out of her ass, and then beat the shit out of him. I'm right, aren't I?


Also, anyone interested in watching @Denezen's face claim (which was deleted when he went silent, sadly) take on Little Mac? Please watch the video, it's glorious.


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Not quite. She'll go Super Saiyan all right, but it's not going to be a one sided fight at all.
 
[QUOTE="Anime King Kaleb]That's pretty much what happened. He snuck off without anyone noticing (Or maybe someone did!) and during his flight, he created the message.

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Fair enough.


Also Zyra and Elise haven't revealed their names to our characters yet so I edited your post accordingly.
 
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Kyero said:
Fair enough.
Also Zyra and Elise haven't revealed their names to our characters yet so I edited your post accordingly.
... looks to the right


... looks to the left


... Facepalms ...
 
Kyero said:
Not quite. She'll go Super Saiyan all right, but it's not going to be a one sided fight at all.
Well, here's the thing about the Super Saiyan fight that bugs me. There's really two big issues. First, it's your character vs. your character. If you wanted to, you could resolve the entire fight in one huge-ass post (one-sided or not) and even if you don't we're just going to be the peanut gallery reacting to the ultraviolence, if canon DBZ is any indication. I don't want to lie down, barely-alive, and be fucking useless, I want to actually have Karas do something important, even if it isn't taking on the main villain.


Second (and this is far more important), I'm fine with Karas not having an ultra-high power level. I'm fine with having him sit on the sidelines from time to time. But this is because I initially designed Karas as the opposite of a typical DBZ hero: He will use physical strength when he needs to, but he's more about brains than brawn. Basically, he shares the archetype of Tony Stark, Hank Pym, Lex Luthor, and Reed Richards, and arguably Bruce Wayne. He is aware of his limitations, and rather than rely on inner power for strength, he turns to a set of blueprints and a well-used hammer.


Granted, if he gets the Super Saiyan state he won't complain, but he won't spend every day training with it endlessly like Goku does. Part of the reason I wanted all of those power-multiplying suits and those giant mechs is to drive home his subversion of the shonen anime concept of inner willpower being the end-all be-all. If you watch a lot of shonen or read a lot of comics, you'll notice that a lot of times the villains are mortal men who either use their resources to compete with the hero, or steal some kind of power or use an item to give themselves strength. Whether it's the Naruto villain who drank something to give himself a massive chakra burst, or the main villain of Flame of Recca using a forbidden artifact to turn himself into some kind of H.R. Giger-esque mutant and then getting killed off by it when it turned on him, it's the hero who relies on his own inner power (often something he was born with) to overcome his opponent.


I have issues with this, especially in Dragon Ball, because what kind of message does it send? Sure, Goku is always using incredible willpower to break through his own limits, but we're not Saiyans. We're humans. And who are the humans in Dragon Ball? Krillin. Tien. Yamcha. They're completely useless in the main fights. Sure, Krillin does things on occasion, but Yamcha just sits on his ass and does nothing because he's convinced he's useless. Even Master Roshi does fuck-all. (Also, Cracked.com covered this better than I ever can, but with superhero movies. Go read it: The 5 Ugly Lessons Hiding in Every Superhero Movie | Cracked.com)


Karas represents my answer to this conundrum. While he's not human, he uses human tactics to get stuff done. Humans don't survive by brute force, they survive by making tools to accomplish the task they want or need done. That's how we've survived for thousands of years, and fought our way to the top of the food chain.


What I'm saying is that I'd like more opportunities to have Karas solve the important problems facing the cast with intelligence and ingenuity, not brawn. The decisions you've made regarding what I can and cannot do have been conflicting with the vision I had for Karas. For example, the artificial Zenkai system involving a petri dish, microscopic kinetic damage, and Saiyan cells in a robot chassis, which you shut down. Or Karas' idea to basically take his arm's technology and make into a suit of powered armor to multiply the user's effective power level, which you also wouldn't let happen (even though the the whole point of it was to make the lower-strength cast members able to compete easier, and the weakness was that the pilot would be heavily weakened if they were removed from the suit or the suit was critically damaged).


Granted, Karas has done a lot, but on the combat side, his creations become less useful as the power level increases. The robot army? Completely useless by this point. Tragedy and Comedy? Aside from taking on Rise, they're only suitable for grunt work, though I may multiply their power levels at some point like you said (though you also insisted I couldn't give them better ki pathways, only concentrate their power, so their days are numbered anyway). The Colossus? That thing's pretty much going to just get insta-killed by Inecros to show how powerful he is. Hell, even Elise could kill it by herself if she wanted with the power level we agreed on initially (5 million or so) unless I bump its power level it to 50 or 100 million. This wouldn't be a problem normally, but you have actually imposed limitations on upgrading these robots. Granted, there would likely be a technological plateau that Karas would eventually reach, but for it to come so early in the RP is a little absurd.
 
Genon said:
Well, here's the thing about the Super Saiyan fight that bugs me. There's really two big issues. First, it's your character vs. your character. If you wanted to, you could resolve the entire fight in one huge-ass post (one-sided or not) and even if you don't we're just going to be the peanut gallery reacting to the ultraviolence, if canon DBZ is any indication. I don't want to lie down, barely-alive, and be fucking useless, I want to actually have Karas do something important, even if it isn't taking on the main villain.
Second (and this is far more important), I'm fine with Karas not having an ultra-high power level. I'm fine with having him sit on the sidelines from time to time. But this is because I initially designed Karas as the opposite of a typical DBZ hero: He will use physical strength when he needs to, but he's more about brains than brawn. Basically, he shares the archetype of Tony Stark, Hank Pym, Lex Luthor, and Reed Richards, and arguably Bruce Wayne. He is aware of his limitations, and rather than rely on inner power for strength, he turns to a set of blueprints and a well-used hammer.


Granted, if he gets the Super Saiyan state he won't complain, but he won't spend every day training with it endlessly like Goku does. Part of the reason I wanted all of those power-multiplying suits and those giant mechs is to drive home his subversion of the shonen anime concept of inner willpower being the end-all be-all. If you watch a lot of shonen or read a lot of comics, you'll notice that a lot of times the villains are mortal men who either use their resources to compete with the hero, or steal some kind of power or use an item to give themselves strength. Whether it's the Naruto villain who drank something to give himself a massive chakra burst, or the main villain of Flame of Recca using a forbidden artifact to turn himself into some kind of H.R. Giger-esque mutant and then getting killed off by it when it turned on him, it's the hero who relies on his own inner power (often something he was born with) to overcome his opponent.


I have issues with this, especially in Dragon Ball, because what kind of message does it send? Sure, Goku is always using incredible willpower to break through his own limits, but we're not Saiyans. We're humans. And who are the humans in Dragon Ball? Krillin. Tien. Yamcha. They're completely useless in the main fights. Sure, Krillin does things on occasion, but Yamcha just sits on his ass and does nothing because he's convinced he's useless. Even Master Roshi does fuck-all. (Also, Cracked.com covered this better than I ever can, but with superhero movies. Go read it: The 5 Ugly Lessons Hiding in Every Superhero Movie | Cracked.com)


Karas represents my answer to this conundrum. While he's not human, he uses human tactics to get stuff done. Humans don't survive by brute force, they survive by making tools to accomplish the task they want or need done. That's how we've survived for thousands of years, and fought our way to the top of the food chain.


What I'm saying is that I'd like more opportunities to have Karas solve the important problems facing the cast with intelligence and ingenuity, not brawn. The decisions you've made regarding what I can and cannot do have been conflicting with the vision I had for Karas. For example, the artificial Zenkai system involving a petri dish, microscopic kinetic damage, and Saiyan cells in a robot chassis, which you shut down. Or Karas' idea to basically take his arm's technology and make into a suit of powered armor to multiply the user's effective power level, which you also wouldn't let happen (even though the the whole point of it was to make the lower-strength cast members able to compete easier, and the weakness was that the pilot would be heavily weakened if they were removed from the suit or the suit was critically damaged).


Granted, Karas has done a lot, but on the combat side, his creations become less useful as the power level increases. The robot army? Completely useless by this point. Tragedy and Comedy? Aside from taking on Rise, they're only suitable for grunt work, though I may multiply their power levels at some point like you said (though you also insisted I couldn't give them better ki pathways, only concentrate their power, so their days are numbered anyway). The Colossus? That thing's pretty much going to just get insta-killed by Inecros to show how powerful he is. Hell, even Elise could kill it by herself if she wanted with the power level we agreed on initially (5 million or so) unless I bump its power level it to 50 or 100 million. This wouldn't be a problem normally, but you have actually imposed limitations on upgrading these robots. Granted, there would likely be a technological plateau that Karas would eventually reach, but for it to come so early in the RP is a little absurd.
I understand where you are coming from Genon, but your frustration is nobody's fault but your own. I will explain why later in this response, but for now here are a few things to think about:


You and I may be humans, but our characters are not. They're Saiyans. Your entire rant about the human element is defeated by the fact that our characters are Saiyans. If Karas was human, then I'd be paying more attention to your complaint. But he's not. He's a Saiyan.


You can't make the human argument when our characters are not human. It just doesn't work that way. The humans of DBZ fall to the wayside because they are weak by comparison to the Saiyans. And DBZ as a whole is focused on who? The Saiyans.


This RP is no different in that respect. It's focused on the Saiyan element, not the human element.


What you seem to be trying to do is humanize Karas to a point where there's no point in him being a Saiyan anymore. You are trying to portray him in a way where his Saiyan genetics and abilities such as the Zenkai may as well not even exist for him. Otherwise what would the purpose of all his creations be? He has the Zenkai. Why recreate it artificially when he's already got it? Why build a Colossus with a power of 5 million when he is (or the others will) eventually reach that stage himself, and then surpass it, thereby rendering it useless anyway?


What purpose do those creations truly serve Genon? Because from my point of view they serve only to satisfy Karas' ego and to allow him to say that he could create them. Beyond that they serve no purpose at all IC beyond taking up space and taking time in the spotlight away from all of our characters for whom the RP was actually created for.


I understand that those ideas could be considered for character development pathways, and I'm not opposed to him finding ways to develop as a character outside of combat. But trying to match or surpass what our characters can do physically and combatively at basically every turn by way of mechanical creation is why I keep shooting down your ideas.


If you want me to start accepting your ideas more readily, why not start focusing on Karas building things that have nothing to do with combat whatsoever? If he's averse to combat and wants to prove that their problems can be solved without it, then why do you keep having him focus on combative creations? The bastion's defenses, arming their personal vessels, the power suit, the artificial Zenkai in their robot army or what have you, the Colossus... All of them are combat focused.


Your arguments begin to sound more than a bit hypocritical when you focus on the combative side despite trying to tell me that Karas lives to show everyone that combat isn't the answer to everything. Overshadowing our character's physical and combative accomplishments doesn't do our characters any good, nor does it contribute meaningfully to the RP's progression or demonstrate that Karas can do what you say he can.


If you want to exercise Karas' intellect and creativity without me standing in your way, start coming up with ideas that don't detract from the focus this RP has on our characters. I designed the RP for them, not Karas' ego. If he wants to build war machines when he's always bitching about not needing combat to solve their problems, he's only lying to himself and needlessly ignoring the Saiyan blood that flows through his veins.


War machines and devices which continually push the boundaries of power don't prove that combat and power aren't needed to solve our characters' problems. If anything they prove that power is needed and that it is more often the answer they need than something that doesn't have anything to do with combat.


As I said before your frustration at my shooting down your ideas is really nobody's fault but your own Genon. You keep telling me Karas has the intellect to solve problems without combat, and I keep waiting for you to prove that to me. But all you have suggested thus far is the creation of machines and devices that are designed to surpass our character's power and prove that power and combat are needed and that they are the answer to our problems.


I will stop shooting you down when you suggest something that Karas can do that doesn't rely on building something with a higher power level than our characters or that's designed for combat, as you keep wanting me to believe.
 
Kyero said:
I understand where you are coming from Genon, but your frustration is nobody's fault but your own. I will explain why later in this response, but for now here are a few things to think about:
You and I may be humans, but our characters are not. They're Saiyans. Your entire rant about the human element is defeated by the fact that our characters are Saiyans. If Karas was human, then I'd be paying more attention to your complaint. But he's not. He's a Saiyan.


You can't make the human argument when our characters are not human. It just doesn't work that way. The humans of DBZ fall to the wayside because they are weak by comparison to the Saiyans. And DBZ as a whole is focused on who? The Saiyans.


This RP is no different in that respect. It's focused on the Saiyan element, not the human element.


What you seem to be trying to do is humanize Karas to a point where there's no point in him being a Saiyan anymore. You are trying to portray him in a way where his Saiyan genetics and abilities such as the Zenkai may as well not even exist for him. Otherwise what would the purpose of all his creations be? He has the Zenkai. Why recreate it artificially when he's already got it? Why build a Colossus with a power of 5 million when he is (or the others will) eventually reach that stage himself, and then surpass it, thereby rendering it useless anyway?


What purpose do those creations truly serve Genon? Because from my point of view they serve only to satisfy Karas' ego and to allow him to say that he could create them. Beyond that they serve no purpose at all IC beyond taking up space and taking time in the spotlight away from all of our characters for whom the RP was actually created for.


I understand that those ideas could be considered for character development pathways, and I'm not opposed to him finding ways to develop as a character outside of combat. But trying to match or surpass what our characters can do physically and combatively at basically every turn by way of mechanical creation is why I keep shooting down your ideas.


If you want me to start accepting your ideas more readily, why not start focusing on Karas building things that have nothing to do with combat whatsoever? If he's averse to combat and wants to prove that their problems can be solved without it, then why do you keep having him focus on combative creations? The bastion's defenses, arming their personal vessels, the power suit, the artificial Zenkai in their robot army or what have you, the Colossus... All of them are combat focused.


Your arguments begin to sound more than a bit hypocritical when you focus on the combative side despite trying to tell me that Karas lives to show everyone that combat isn't the answer to everything. Overshadowing our character's physical and combative accomplishments doesn't do our characters any good, nor does it contribute meaningfully to the RP's progression or demonstrate that Karas can do what you say he can.


If you want to exercise Karas' intellect and creativity without me standing in your way, start coming up with ideas that don't detract from the focus this RP has on our characters. I designed the RP for them, not Karas' ego. If he wants to build war machines when he's always bitching about not needing combat to solve their problems, he's only lying to himself and needlessly ignoring the Saiyan blood that flows through his veins.


War machines and devices which continually push the boundaries of power don't prove that combat and power aren't needed to solve our characters' problems. If anything they prove that power is needed and that it is more often the answer they need than something that doesn't have anything to do with combat.


As I said before your frustration at my shooting down your ideas is really nobody's fault but your own Genon. You keep telling me Karas has the intellect to solve problems without combat, and I keep waiting for you to prove that to me. But all you have suggested thus far is the creation of machines and devices that are designed to surpass our character's power and prove that power and combat are needed and that they are the answer to our problems.


I will stop shooting you down when you suggest something that Karas can do that doesn't rely on building something with a higher power level than our characters or that's designed for combat, as you keep wanting me to believe.
I...aploogize. You're right, and I wish I had never brought it up.
 
Genon said:
I...aploogize. You're right, and I wish I had never brought it up.
Being vocal about your complaints and concerns is part of being a good role-player Genon, so don't worry about it.


Now you know why I've been shooting you down and as such you can now focus on coming up with ideas to suit Karas' true intellectual prowess and start proving what you had intended from the start.
 
Genon said:
I...aploogize. You're right, and I wish I had never brought it up.
I have to half agree with what you were trying to say, I feel like Era and Korvaiis are the main focus of the RP and ultimately that leaves the rest of us just sidelining and following suit.


At times I'm not sure what to post, when clearly @Kyero can continue the story without a single person input. I understand your GM and have idea's but it begs the question why its multi-player and not just a single person story.


Obviously I don't see the hurdles or end game yet, but that's why I am focusing on Eve's character development with the other's to give her something to do. I'll continue to fill the RP with silly situations. Come join me, Karas, while we make some jokes.
 
Kyero said:
Being vocal about your complaints and concerns is part of being a good role-player Genon, so don't worry about it.
Now you know why I've been shooting you down and as such you can now focus on coming up with ideas to suit Karas' true intellectual prowess and start proving what you had intended from the start.
Well, now that I've put some thought into it, there are perfectly valid reasons for Karas to build some of his creations.


Inecros has not only more power, but more resources. He can field billions of soldiers to the Saiyans' thousands. The robot army was created in order to give the Saiyans an ability to compete with Inecros on a large scale. However, I will admit that Tragedy and Comedy aren't actually useful for this, outside of defense purposes. The Colossus was intended by Karas to be the thing that takes out Inecros, but since he has no idea what Inecros' actual power level is (no-one does, actually) I'm thinking that it can give Inecros a good fight, but it will be utterly trashed once Inecros gets serious. For this scene to work, I think the Colossus should have a PL of 100 million.


As for arming the ships, it's really as a deterrent against the Saiyans being killed in cryosleep. If some random space pirate hits a Saiyan ship with a stray missile, the Saiyan ship will be blown to smithereens along with the person inside. Arming the ships was really only meant for defensive purposes. Keep in mind, he's also giving them shields as well.


Second, about why Karas is only building military things, it's because literally the entire Saiyan race is focusing on killing Inecros, and Karas has to contribute to the war effort because otherwise everyone dies. He'll focus on advancing other technology once Inecros is dead.
 
Zuka said:
I have to half agree with what you were trying to say, I feel like Era and Korvaiis are the main focus of the RP and ultimately that leaves the rest of us just sidelining and following suit.
At times I'm not sure what to post, when clearly @Kyero can continue the story without a single person input. I understand your GM and have idea's but it begs the question why its multi-player and not just a single person story.


Obviously I don't see the hurdles or end game yet, but that's why I am focusing on Eve's character development with the other's to give her something to do. I'll continue to fill the RP with silly situations. Come join me, Karas, while we make some jokes.
The reason I keep focusing on my characters should be obvious Zuka: They're mine.


If there's something special you want your character to do, then say so. If there's some kind of a path you want Eve to take, then say so. Eve is more than just a body to be used only in response to what I've done or have presented you know. I sometimes present request as to what kinds of things I'd like to see to keep everyone on the same page, but otherwise your posts can be filled with as much detail and information as you can stand to come up with.


The reason I'm always coming up with things to post and why it seems like I don't need help is because I'm constantly thinking and coming up with 10+ ways to react to what I've previously posted. Then I pick one and go from there. If my characters seem to be sticking amongst themselves, it's because Eve and the other player character's haven't given them reason to seek them out yet.


Era and Sil take comfort in each other's presence. Nil and Kendra are practically siblings despite sharing no common blood. And Korvaiis is Korvaiis. Urod could hang with anyone, but chooses largely to wait in silence until Korvaiis decides to do something more.


Right now there's still very little to no real dynamic between our respective characters which is why my characters stick to each other more often than not. When you present ideas for interaction and growth between them as friends and comrades, my characters will involve themselves more in your character's life.


That's when we will begin telling more of a collected story. Right now I'm staying in character and keeping my characters who have no reason to seek Eve or the others out amongst themselves as they all have the most history together. When you give them reason to do so IC, they'll start seeking Eve out. They'll seek out Karas. They'll seek our Raze and Dicchio. And they'll seek out Zarytto.


But you have to take the forefront of that effort. As the GM and a role-player I am waiting for a reason to engage your characters in a deeper and more meaningful way. But for your benefit I am waiting until you take the lead on this issue. I know how I would go about it, but if I do everything that defeats the purpose of your involvement and creativity. I want you to take charge of how Eve will involve herself in the lives of my characters so I can start giving them more of a reason to interact with Eve and involve themselves in her life (The same is true for all the other characters as well).
 
Kyero said:
The reason I keep focusing on my characters should be obvious Zuka: They're mine.
If there's something special you want your character to do, then say so. If there's some kind of a path you want Eve to take, then say so. Eve is more than just a body to be used only in response to what I've done or have presented you know. I sometimes present request as to what kinds of things I'd like to see to keep everyone on the same page, but otherwise your posts can be filled with as much detail and information as you can stand to come up with.


The reason I'm always coming up with things to post and why it seems like I don't need help is because I'm constantly thinking and coming up with 10+ ways to react to what I've previously posted. Then I pick one and go from there. If my characters seem to be sticking amongst themselves, it's because Eve and the other player character's haven't given them reason to seek them out yet.


Era and Sil take comfort in each other's presence. Nil and Kendra are practically siblings despite sharing no common blood. And Korvaiis is Korvaiis. Urod could hang with anyone, but chooses largely to wait in silence until Korvaiis decides to do something more.


Right now there's still very little to no real dynamic between our respective characters which is why my characters stick to each other more often than not. When you present ideas for interaction and growth between them as friends and comrades, my characters will involve themselves more in your character's life.


That's when we will begin telling more of a collected story. Right now I'm staying in character and keeping my characters who have no reason to seek Eve or the others out amongst themselves as they all have the most history together. When you give them reason to do so IC, they'll start seeking Eve out. They'll seek out Karas. They'll seek our Raze and Dicchio. And they'll seek out Zarytto.


But you have to take the forefront of that effort. As the GM and a role-player I am waiting for a reason to engage your characters in a deeper and more meaningful way. But for your benefit I am waiting until you take the lead on this issue. I know how I would go about it, but if I do everything that defeats the purpose of your involvement and creativity. I want you to take charge of how Eve will involve herself in the lives of my characters so I can start giving them more of a reason to interact with Eve and involve themselves in her life (The same is true for all the other characters as well).
Oh don't fear I will do.


Besides having everyone locked in a prison room is sure to get some conversation going. Or bickering, as that seems a more typical response hue. Wonder if I should drop the ovulation thing just to make it more awkward.
 
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Genon said:
Well, now that I've put some thought into it, there are perfectly valid reasons for Karas to build some of his creations.
Inecros has not only more power, but more resources. He can field billions of soldiers to the Saiyans' thousands. The robot army was created in order to give the Saiyans an ability to compete with Inecros on a large scale. However, I will admit that Tragedy and Comedy aren't actually useful for this, outside of defense purposes. The Colossus was intended by Karas to be the thing that takes out Inecros, but since he has no idea what Inecros' actual power level is (no-one does, actually) I'm thinking that it can give Inecros a good fight, but it will be utterly trashed once Inecros gets serious. For this scene to work, I think the Colossus should have a PL of 100 million.


As for arming the ships, it's really as a deterrent against the Saiyans being killed in cryosleep. If some random space pirate hits a Saiyan ship with a stray missile, the Saiyan ship will be blown to smithereens along with the person inside. Arming the ships was really only meant for defensive purposes. Keep in mind, he's also giving them shields as well.


Second, about why Karas is only building military things, it's because literally the entire Saiyan race is focusing on killing Inecros, and Karas has to contribute to the war effort because otherwise everyone dies. He'll focus on advancing other technology once Inecros is dead.
Very well.


Then you have a plan for the future which proves the lack of reliance on combative creations, I presume.


Some things that Karas could start considering are the following, at least for future reference and agenda purposes:


Combative until Inecros' defeat


* Biological warfare


* Chemical warfare


* Electronic warfare


* Improving Saiyan Armor (beyond just flexible rubber-like materials that are easy to break and penetrate)


* Coming up with a way to create and duplicate what Vegeta (Bardock) did in an artificial moon so they can transform if the situation calls for it (perhaps as a ball of specialized energy and light waves fired from their ship which remains in orbit?)


* Improving and expanding the Rejuvenation Chamber (He'll have enough resources here at the facilities of this planet once Zyra releases the group to expand it to house two people)


* The Colossus, to my imagination, would best be served with a power of around 25-40 million. I can't really see it having much more power than that.


Non-Combative


* Coming up with an improved system for the distribution of resources and materials across the depths of space from the Bastion at their home world to, their ship taking into account the weight capacity and space available at the time


* Coming up with training bots which can resist Ki blasts of nearly all kinds and levels so that they all have something to train against that isn't a static target (and so they don't have to forcibly train against each other if they don't wish to allowing them some alone time to hone their own techniques without the pressure of a real fight on their hands or worrying about hurting someone)


* Improving the nutritional value of their chosen food items through advanced genetic alterations and nutritional supplementation


* Perhaps inventing nano-bots of some kind which can be injected into the bloodstream which assist and boost the natural healing process even further so that both natural healing and the rejuvenation chamber are expedited in their healing speeds


* Create and/or update a new database with known information about all the species of the galaxy so that they have a better idea of what to expect when they travel to specific regions and planets and aren't flying in the dark


All of these things and more could be on his eventual agenda, from my perspective.
 
Zuka said:
Oh don't fear I will do.
Besides having everyone locked in a prison room is sure to get some conversation going. Or bickering, as that seems a more typical response hue. Wonder if I should drop the ovulation thing just to make it more awkward.
If you do, I'll be sure to have Era play along. I plan on having Sil still being a bit out of sync with them for now just to add to the fun and embarrassment if the subject is brought up. After all, our favorite red-head is quite shy with such matters.


Era... Well, she has no modesty whatsoever.
 
Kyero said:
If you do, I'll be sure to have Era play along. I plan on having Sil still being a bit out of sync with them for now just to add to the fun and embarrassment if the subject is brought up. After all, our favorite red-head is quite shy with such matters.
Era... Well, she has no modesty whatsoever.
Ahh if only there was a mud patch for some wrestling Huehue xD
 
Kyero said:
The reason I keep focusing on my characters should be obvious Zuka: They're mine.
If there's something special you want your character to do, then say so. If there's some kind of a path you want Eve to take, then say so. Eve is more than just a body to be used only in response to what I've done or have presented you know. I sometimes present request as to what kinds of things I'd like to see to keep everyone on the same page, but otherwise your posts can be filled with as much detail and information as you can stand to come up with.


The reason I'm always coming up with things to post and why it seems like I don't need help is because I'm constantly thinking and coming up with 10+ ways to react to what I've previously posted. Then I pick one and go from there. If my characters seem to be sticking amongst themselves, it's because Eve and the other player character's haven't given them reason to seek them out yet.


Era and Sil take comfort in each other's presence. Nil and Kendra are practically siblings despite sharing no common blood. And Korvaiis is Korvaiis. Urod could hang with anyone, but chooses largely to wait in silence until Korvaiis decides to do something more.


Right now there's still very little to no real dynamic between our respective characters which is why my characters stick to each other more often than not. When you present ideas for interaction and growth between them as friends and comrades, my characters will involve themselves more in your character's life.


That's when we will begin telling more of a collected story. Right now I'm staying in character and keeping my characters who have no reason to seek Eve or the others out amongst themselves as they all have the most history together. When you give them reason to do so IC, they'll start seeking Eve out. They'll seek out Karas. They'll seek our Raze and Dicchio. And they'll seek out Zarytto.


But you have to take the forefront of that effort. As the GM and a role-player I am waiting for a reason to engage your characters in a deeper and more meaningful way. But for your benefit I am waiting until you take the lead on this issue. I know how I would go about it, but if I do everything that defeats the purpose of your involvement and creativity. I want you to take charge of how Eve will involve herself in the lives of my characters so I can start giving them more of a reason to interact with Eve and involve themselves in her life (The same is true for all the other characters as well).
I agree with you, but I'm also...a bit afraid to interact with any of your characters. Simply put, whenever we make a post in this RP, it's typically close to essay length, and often several other things get addressed as well. Because it tends to take you a longer time to make a post due to your duties as GM, I'm torn between keeping the story going at a reasonably fast pace (since at the rate we're going we'll finish it in five years) and stopping it to have a conversation.


HOWEVER! This scene, where we're all stuck in a room together, should help alleviate that.
 
Genon said:
I agree with you, but I'm also...a bit afraid to interact with any of your characters. Simply put, whenever we make a post in this RP, it's typically close to essay length, and often several other things get addressed as well. Because it tends to take you a longer time to make a post due to your duties as GM, I'm torn between keeping the story going at a reasonably fast pace (since at the rate we're going we'll finish it in five years) and stopping it to have a conversation.
HOWEVER! This scene, where we're all stuck in a room together, should help alleviate that.
It will indeed.


And I encourage you to engage in conversation and meaningful interaction at any time. My duties as GM take precedent to me, of course, but I will never hesitate to halt the RP for a few posts to have a good conversation between characters. Growth is arguably just as important as progression, after all. Some would say it's more important.


So if you feel a need or desire to engage, do so.
 
Kyero said:
Very well.
Then you have a plan for the future which proves the lack of reliance on combative creations, I presume.


Some things that Karas could start considering are the following, at least for future reference and agenda purposes:


Combative until Inecros' defeat


* Biological warfare


* Chemical warfare


* Electronic warfare


* Improving Saiyan Armor (beyond just flexible rubber-like materials that are easy to break and penetrate)


* Coming up with a way to create and duplicate what Vegeta (Bardock) did in an artificial moon so they can transform if the situation calls for it (perhaps as a ball of specialized energy and light waves fired from their ship which remains in orbit?)


* Improving and expanding the Rejuvenation Chamber (He'll have enough resources here at the facilities of this planet once Zyra releases the group to expand it to house two people)


* The Colossus, to my imagination, would best be served with a power of around 25-40 million. I can't really see it having much more power than that.


Non-Combative


* Coming up with an improved system for the distribution of resources and materials across the depths of space from the Bastion at their home world to, their ship taking into account the weight capacity and space available at the time


* Coming up with training bots which can resist Ki blasts of nearly all kinds and levels so that they all have something to train against that isn't a static target (and so they don't have to forcibly train against each other if they don't wish to allowing them some alone time to hone their own techniques without the pressure of a real fight on their hands or worrying about hurting someone)


* Improving the nutritional value of their chosen food items through advanced genetic alterations and nutritional supplementation


* Perhaps inventing nano-bots of some kind which can be injected into the bloodstream which assist and boost the natural healing process even further so that both natural healing and the rejuvenation chamber are expedited in their healing speeds


* Create and/or update a new database with known information about all the species of the galaxy so that they have a better idea of what to expect when they travel to specific regions and planets and aren't flying in the dark


All of these things and more could be on his eventual agenda, from my perspective.
All smart ideas. But there's something you should know. We have a little thing now called "Important Posts." This post is something you should use it for. Granted, I could bookmark it, but it would also be helpful if you could try and mark the posts you think are important for us to know, just so we have quick shortcuts in the thread.
 
Genon said:
All smart ideas. But there's something you should know. We have a little thing now called "Important Posts." This post is something you should use it for. Granted, I could bookmark it, but it would also be helpful if you could try and mark the posts you think are important for us to know, just so we have quick shortcuts in the thread.
I marked it as "Karas Future Plans."
 
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I kinda feel sorry for him, they pretty much all like Eve, so, yeah, he's gunna get belted around D:
 

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