Fantasy CHICAGO - OOC

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I have the feeling that Marcus and Joseph would have quite a lot to talk about.

 

[Epiphany]

So let's talk about Water. Specifically, what do people with the affinity typically do with it? I think you mentioned farming. And there's the obvious sewage application.

1. What are some middle-class jobs that use Water (and in what way)?
2. For the rich and elite with nothing but time and money on their hands, what can they (and what do they) do with Water?
3. How do the Mafia or organized crime in general use Water?
4. If a water-wielder carries a flask of water with them typically, what would they do with it?

While I appreciate the setting has this "your talent with Magic is related to how much time and money you throw at it", I'm interested in how on-the-job-training so to speak can put that magic to work.
Also, if you can control water, can you control blood? Or other liquid substances? Sound transmits through water; can you use it to enhance eavesdropping? Can you manipulate steam? (I'm assuming you can't do ice, to avoid stomping on Ice's niche). Can you replicate a water jet saw's operation?

I know it's a lot of questions.

 

[Avari]

So let's talk about Water. Specifically, what do people with the affinity typically do with it? I think you mentioned farming. And there's the obvious sewage application.

1. What are some middle-class jobs that use Water (and in what way)?
2. For the rich and elite with nothing but time and money on their hands, what can they (and what do they) do with Water?
3. How do the Mafia or organized crime in general use Water?
4. If a water-wielder carries a flask of water with them typically, what would they do with it?

While I appreciate the setting has this "your talent with Magic is related to how much time and money you throw at it", I'm interested in how on-the-job-training so to speak can put that magic to work.
Also, if you can control water, can you control blood? Or other liquid substances? Sound transmits through water; can you use it to enhance eavesdropping? Can you manipulate steam? (I'm assuming you can't do ice, to avoid stomping on Ice's niche). Can you replicate a water jet saw's operation?

I know it's a lot of questions.

So I'm probably gonna change Water about a wee bit

1) Spa treatments, massages, Fishermen, Bar workers, Uh deep sea/lake divers, Feel free to think of more aha
2) I'm sure Water could be considered quite the art form.
3) Uh. I mean, drowning people would be quite easy. Shipping in illegal items/people underwater. so forth.
4) It's more just having a close by guaranteed source of pure water to manipulate.

I guess you could control blood. I think the lower the % of water, the harder it is to control. So blood is around 55% water according to google so would be pretty advanced. Eavesdropping? sure Steam? Nah. I'm sure if I had six months to think about stuff it'd work in some way but let's just settle with "it's gotta be a liquid"
And sure.

Water is scary.

Probably the most elegant, yet horrifying of the elements.

 

[Epiphany]

Super helpful, thank you!

 

[Avari]

ScarletTears

Would you be happy to switch his element to water? He can make booze leap from glasses and such. I'm kinda overloaded on ice right now. Lol

 

[thebigbadwolfy]

You've probably already mentioned this but I can't seem to find the answer
Are multiple characters allowed?

 

[Avari]

You've probably already mentioned this but I can't seem to find the answer
Are multiple characters allowed?

Not yet, but will be. did you see the picture I did for you?

 

[The_Omega_Effect]

I guess you could control blood. I think the lower the % of water, the harder it is to control. So blood is around 55% water according to google so would be pretty advanced.

I kinda have a bit of a problem with blood control as we are delving into chemical composition which can lead to things being a bit tricky scientifically.

Firstly, what exactly is the range of this blood control? One has to be at least an expert to do it from a decent range imo. Otherwise a journeyman water user can simply block the blood flow to the brain of multiple people and pretty much kill everything in sight.

Also, red blood cells do contain oxygen. Would that mean that Air users can control blood as well?

We are also delving a bit into earth with this as rocks are made up of many metals and whatnot. Would that mean that an earth user who is proficient enough would be able to control metal as well?

 

[Avari]

I kinda have a bit of a problem with blood control as we are delving into chemical composition which can lead to things being a bit tricky scientifically.

Firstly, what exactly is the range of this blood control? One has to be at least an expert to do it from a decent range imo. Otherwise a journeyman water user can simply block the blood flow to the brain of multiple people and pretty much kill everything in sight.

Also, red blood cells do contain oxygen. Would that mean that Air users can control blood as well?

We are also delving a bit into earth with this as rocks are made up of many metals and whatnot. Would that mean that an earth user who is proficient enough would be able to control metal as well?

I urge you not to think about things too hard lol

Also Blood control would probably be physical touch and take a fair bit of concentration I expect.
Unless the blood is outside the body.

That's much easier.

 

[The_Omega_Effect]

I urge you not to think about things too hard lol

can't help it

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

I suggest we keep to the pragmatics and police ourselves according to the idea of elemental mages rather than defining it. Technically speaking, an air mage could remove the air from your lungs to kill you. Technically an earth mage could shift the ground att your feet and crush you almost instantly. Technically a fire mage could light your insides on fire. Electric mages could give you a heart attack by fucking with your nerves, an ice mage could freeze your brian, etc. I don't think anyone will try to do these things, but y'know. The science isn't that important here.

 

[Gravitational Force]

For a character to use their abilities in an instant kill, they'd have to both have the power to do so and the knowledge of how.
It would be harder to extract their air from someone's lungs or remove the oxygen from around them than to just blow them off a roof.

 

[Avari]

Revamping my character now.


ohohohohohooo boy

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

For a character to use their abilities in an instant kill, they'd have to both have the power to do so and the knowledge of how.
It would be harder to extract their air from someone's lungs or remove the oxygen from around them than to just blow them off a roof.

That depends on whether manipulating large amounts of air is easier than finely manipulating smaller amounts. Perhaps that's a question of whether your forté is raw force or technical expertise. Oh boy that adds a level

Anyway Avari am I accepted and then what's my affinity?

 

[Gravitational Force]

That depends on whether manipulating large amounts of air is easier than finely manipulating smaller amounts. Perhaps that's a question of whether your forté is raw force or technical expertise. Oh boy that adds a level

Anyway Avari am I accepted and then what's my affinity?

If the person in question doesn't know how the respiratory system works or how oxygen works, then it's a moot point. Keep in mind the time period and knowledge of the average person.

 

[_Line 213]

I do think it's something worth thinking about, if only to define what exactly the boundaries for harming other people are. It forms a nice mutual basis for conflict if that ends up occurring, and allows for a level of fairness just in case someone busts out the insta-kills and no one else really feels they want that in the roleplay.

The vibe that I get overall (though I could be wrong) shifts closer to usages that are more mundane, seeing as magic is more flavor for already-existing principles of modernity than it is something straight out of Avatar, so I hadn't really considered any of the insta-kill possibilities at all; I think as long as we stick more towards things that feel "ordinary," everything should feel okay.

Even so, I do think that this worth talking about for the sake of establishing conflict etiquette early on, regardless of whether said conflict is between players, or whether there's an NPC component involved (since insta-killing important plot characters can be just as lame and disruptive as doing the same to another player).

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

If the person in question doesn't know how the respiratory system works or how oxygen works, then it's a moot point. Keep in mind the time period and knowledge of the average person.

It is the control of air, not oxygen. That almost 80% nitrogen. And knowing how the respiratory system works means nothing there, it's not like there'd be any harm in destroying the lungs of someone you're trying to kill. Nonetheless you don't need to defend it, nobody's going to abuse the system like that.

 

[Gravitational Force]

It is the control of air, not oxygen. That almost 80% nitrogen. And knowing how the respiratory system works means nothing there, it's not like there'd be any harm in destroying the lungs of someone you're trying to kill. Nonetheless you don't need to defend it, nobody's going to abuse the system like that.

Because you're assuming how the abilities work and the finesse someone can use them with.

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

I do think it's something worth thinking about, if only to define what exactly the boundaries for harming other people are. It forms a nice mutual basis for conflict if that ends up occurring, and allows for a level of fairness just in case someone busts out the insta-kills and no one else really feels they want that in the roleplay.

The vibe that I get overall (though I could be wrong) shifts closer to usages that are more mundane, seeing as magic is more flavor for already-existing principles of modernity than it is something straight out of Avatar, so I hadn't really considered any of the insta-kill possibilities at all; I think as long as we stick more towards things that feel "ordinary," everything should feel okay.

Even so, I do think that this worth talking about for the sake of establishing conflict etiquette early on, regardless of whether said conflict is between players, or whether there's an NPC component involved (since insta-killing important plot characters can be just as lame and disruptive as doing the same to another player).

As a rule of thumb I generally don't think killing other people's characters is cool unless they're alright with it. Fight scenes can always be discussed. Exclude situations where rpers got their characters in unfeasible-to-survive situations

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

Because you're assuming how the abilities work and the finesse someone can use them with.

Ah, well, that we are all since we have no literal exact basis other than "conjuring air"

 

[Avari]

KAYSEN'S DOOOOOOOOOOONE

 

[ScarletTears]

What about removing water from a solution to make the solution more pure?

Thinking that might be quite a talent for a bartender to make drinks stronger!

 

[Avari]

That depends on whether manipulating large amounts of air is easier than finely manipulating smaller amounts. Perhaps that's a question of whether your forté is raw force or technical expertise. Oh boy that adds a level

Anyway Avari am I accepted and then what's my affinity?

Oh I thought I posted: He's accepted. He's Journeyman!

 

[Avari]

What about removing water from a solution to make the solution more pure?

Thinking that might be quite a talent for a bartender to make drinks stronger!

Very Precise! But I don't see why not >3

 

[Prizzy Kriyze]

Oh I thought I posted: He's accepted. He's Journeyman!

Awesome, I'm looking forward to tomorrow!