A Check For Every Ability

[Ledaal Zyden]

Been pondering this for awhile. I'm sure that technically there's a way to use every combination of Attribute-Ability, but I'm stuck on a few. There's your obvious ones (Manipulation-Socialize, Dexterity-Martial Arts, Intelligence-Lore), but how do you explain something like Strength-Bureaucracy?


A few of the ones my group have puzzled out:


Dexterity-Linguistics = Sign Language


Manipulation-Medicine = cowing the patient into obeying your orders, like House


Stamina-Socialize = for those week-long Cynis parties

 

[Vanman]

I'm not sure there is a way to combine every attribute and every ability. Str + Bureaucracy is sort of easy - you smash the table to make the bureaucrats do what you want. But App + Resistance? App+Archery? App+a whole list of abilities? I realize there's probably ways to do all this, but to be honest, I don't have the patience to try and figure them all out.


:-)

 

[Persell]

Smashing a table to make beurocracts do what you want it at best Str + Presence or Performance. Why would the skill for ordering someone around change because the guy works in an office?

 

[Vanman]

So then why not use Presence or Performance when dealing with bureaucracies full stop? Isn't Bureaucracy the skill used to deal with......bureaucracies?


Besides, part of the point of this thread is pairing attributes and abilities that don't normally go together. I wouldn't use Str+Bureaucracy in normal gameplay, but that's the point of the thread. I was just pointing out a way to use Str+Bureaucracy.

 

[Persell]

Bureacracy is for dealong with Bureacracies, not bureaucrats.

 

[Flagg]

App+Archery?

I think Appearance+Archery could be used not necessarily to shoot a bow accurately, but to look good doing it. Same goes for Appearance plus pretty much anything else.

 

[Vanman]

How good would you look if you missed the target, though?

 

[Flagg]

How good would you look if you missed the target, though?

If you're doing it right, they're looking at you, not the arrow

 

[memesis]

How good would you look if you missed the target, though?

That's why part of your dice pool comes from Archery, dude.

 

[Quchu]

If the guy was shouting bureaucracy protocols and overlooked points while trashing the office with his bare hands, Strength + Bureaucracy could work.


What I'm wondering is, Strength + Awareness?

 

[Persell]

Strength+Awareness = Literally tearing a room apart to find something or make sure nothing has been hidden in said room.


Strength+Linguistics = Slapping the piss outta somebody until they say something that makes sense


Strength +Larceny = Picking somebody up by their ankles and shaking their belongings on to the ground


Strength=+Occult =  Knowing which toys to break to get the sorceress to tell you what you need


Strength+Dodge = Picking your buddy up to use as a shield


Strength+Medicine = Jabbing pointing things in the soft places to get information


This is fun, and much easier waaay sleep deprived

 

[Persell]

A lot of these are charisma/manipulation though. A lot of these things are social combat or social combat stunts and therefore most likely done over charisma or manipulation. The sorcress won't tell you anything just because you smash stuff, she tells you because you smash stuff and look like you are going to smash more of her precious belonging or her.

 

[memesis]

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This could also be Perception + Athletics, of course.. "how strong would I have to be in order to break this in /exactly this way/?"

 

[Persell]

Most of the ones mentioned fall squarely into something else. For instance, tearing up a room looking for something would be, at best, Str + Investigation.


I guess my stance is that, sure, you can ignore the logical choices and maybe find a combination for all of the Attribute + Ability pairs, but apart from being silly on a forum why would you want to?

 

[Vanman]

Most of the ones mentioned fall squarely into something else. For instance, tearing up a room looking for something would be, at best, Str + Investigation.
I guess my stance is that, sure, you can ignore the logical choices and maybe find a combination for all of the Attribute + Ability pairs, but apart from being silly on a forum why would you want to?

What more reason do you need? (Emphasis is mine)

 

[StarHawk]

A lot of these are charisma/manipulation though. A lot of these things are social combat or social combat stunts and therefore most likely done over charisma or manipulation. The sorcress won't tell you anything just because you smash stuff, she tells you because you smash stuff and look like you are going to smash more of her precious belonging or her.

... kill joy.
In one of the lunar games I played in 1E, our Full Moon Rhino found uses for his physical stats with his meager social abilities.


Strength + Bureaucracy = Strong arming the Eclipse.. I mean conversation.


Stamina + Bureaucracy = Sitting through the Eclipse's conversations.


Appearance + Bureaucracy = Faking it.


In our groups, if you're faking anything, as in disguising that you don't really know how to do something, we used appearance instead of manipulation to say you're not using words, you're using your body. In this instance Appearance was used with a lot of abilities.


Appearance + Larceny is disguise.


Appearance + Archery is making it look like you know how to use this bow you picked up for the first time in your life. (intimidation perhaps?)


Appearance + Occult is making it look like you are going through the motions of casting a spell. And so on.

 

[Persell]

Ah. cool.

 

[Quchu]

Heh, I like Appearance + Occult.


Strength + Awareness could be hitting something just strong enough it gets out of the way but doesn't break, perhaps...


Someone should make a list of all 225 possible Att + Abil combinations and see if it can be completely filled out... and example stunts for all the combinations, too. >_>

 

[memesis]

Strength + Archery =


Strength + Martial Arts =


Strength + Melee =


Strength + Thrown =


Strength + War =


Strength + Integrity =


Strength + Performance =


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Strength + Resistance =


Strength + Survival =


Strength + Craft =


Strength + Investigation =


Strength + Lore =


Strength + Medicine =


Strength + Occult =


Strength + Athletics =


Strength + Awareness =


Strength + Dodge =


Strength + Larceny =


Strength + Stealth =


Strength + Bureaucracy =


Strength + Linguistics =


Strength + Ride =


Strength + Sail =


Strength + Socialize =


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[Quchu]

Strength + Archery = Andy the Solar shoots a bow made from depleted uranium. (Does that exist in Creation?)


Strength + Martial Arts = Mike the Sidereal punches his enemy so hard, his family shit their pants (really.)


Strength + Melee = Mandy the Lunar swings a behemoth at enemies.


Strength + Thrown = Ty the Abyssal throws a hekatonkhire at enemies.


Strength + War =


Strength + Integrity =


Strength + Performance = Pam the Sidereal dances in a dress made with heavy jewelry.


Strength + Presence = Paul the Lunar introduces himself by trashing an orphanage with a finger impressively.


Strength + Resistance = Ron the Abyssal carries around a broken bonestrider.


Strength + Survival =


Strength + Craft = Chris the Solar beats a sword out of Orichalcum ore.


Strength + Investigation = Ike the Sidereal angrily smashes at desks and throws furnitures around until the librarian finds him the book he wants.


Strength + Lore =


Strength + Medicine = Matt the Abyssal fixes a dislocated joint by punching it back to its socket. Then cures the patient from continued life.


Strength + Occult =


Strength + Athletics = Aaron the Solar throws a tectonic plate.


Strength + Awareness = Amy the Sidereal kicks open a door just strong enough it opens, but doesn't actually kick through it.


Strength + Dodge = Dave the Lunar jumps out of the dying behemoth's fall.


Strength + Larceny = Larry the Abyssal kicks the guard's wrist strong enough the mechanism holding his weapon on his hand comes off.


Strength + Stealth =


Strength + Bureaucracy =


Strength + Linguistics =


Strength + Ride = Rick the Lunar beats his steed into obedience.


Strength + Sail = Steve the Abyssal keeps the wheel during a fierce thunderstorm.


Strength + Socialize = Sally the Dragon-Blooded beats the living shit and necessary information she needs from the spy.


Dexterity + Archery = Andy the Solar shoots a bow the size of Nepal.


Dexterity + Martial Arts = Mike the Sidereal punches at differential calculus.


Dexterity + Melee = Mandy the Lunar swings an enemy at enemies.


Dexterity + Thrown = Ty the Abyssal throws really depressing music CDs at people, saving them from life.


Dexterity + War = Will the Dragon-Blooded describes his combat strategy to his Brotherhood using only finger gestures, not letting his enemies become aware of it.


Dexterity + Integrity = Ian the Solar focuses on fine-tuning the First Age device while not paying attention to the maddening gibberish of the spirit guardian his Circlemates have previously nailed down.


Dexterity + Performance = Pam the Sidereal plays the piano made from a fired god.


Dexterity + Presence =


Dexterity + Resistance = Ron the Abyssal copies the entire Incunabulum over a day and a night, making sure not to misspell anything as to preserve the magic of the text.


Dexterity + Survival =


Dexterity + Craft = Chris the Solar makes a sword the size of Alpha Centauri.


Dexterity + Investigation = Ike the Sidereal, limbs bound and eyes blindfolded, surveys his surrounding using only his fingertips.


Dexterity + Lore =


Dexterity + Medicine = Matt the Abyssal cures a mortal from the deadly symptoms of continued life.


Dexterity + Occult =


Dexterity + Athletics = Aaron the Solar jumps of a gap the size of Perceived Universe.


Dexterity + Awareness =


Dexterity + Dodge = Dave the Lunar dodges an enemy using an enemy.


Dexterity + Larceny = Larry the Abyssal steals a hapless mortal, somehow killing him in the process.


Dexterity + Stealth = Sean the Dragon-Blooded, uh, hides.


Dexterity + Bureaucracy =


Dexterity + Linguistics = Leon the Sidereal writes something down in a fancy manner.


Dexterity + Ride = Rick the Lunar runs over an enemy (his steed is, of course, an enemy.)


Dexterity + Sail = Steve the Abyssal steers his vessel.


Dexterity + Socialize = Sally the Dragon-Blooded pleases her guest who holds a critical information concerning her family's business.


Stamina + Archery = Andy the Solar, after a week of pursuasion without sleep, food or water, shoots a vengeful arrow at the Terrestrial who has taken his childhood sweetheart to become his courtesan.


Stamina + Martial Arts = Mike the Sidereal listens to his sifu and punches a rock for three days without a break.


Stamina + Melee = Mandy the Lunar whirlwinds through the enemy formation with a tree and fails to find a suitable place to stop, forcing her to spin... and spin... and spin... and spin...


Stamina + Thrown =


Stamina + War = Will the Dragon-Blooded refuses to fall and continues leading his troops to glory despite the lethal burn of unholy Essence the Anathema inflicted on him.


Stamina + Integrity = Ian the Solar detaches himself from bodily needs and meditates under a willow tree, where beautiful Raksha maidens decide to play with him.


Stamina + Performance = Pam the Sidereal entertains the crowd who refuse to leave the theatre even after countless encores.


Stamina + Presence = Paul the Lunar, thoroughly beaten to pulp, stands up once again and reminds his friends that together, they will never die.


Stamina + Resistance = Ron the Abyssal resists catching cold.


Stamina + Survival = Sandy the Dragon-Blooded travels through the desert of the south, feeding only on scorpions and cacti on the way.


Stamina + Craft = Chris the Solar, in drunken stupor, kneads molten steel with bare hands.


Stamina + Investigation =


Stamina + Lore =


Stamina + Medicine =


Stamina + Occult =


Stamina + Athletics =


Stamina + Awareness = Amy the Sidereal, despite being completely lifted to a higher state of being with Celestial Coke, notices an ambush set up against her.


Stamina + Dodge = Dave the Lunar snakes his way through swords and arrows, even when he's sick with some kind of magic ebola.


Stamina + Larceny =


Stamina + Stealth =


Stamina + Bureaucracy = Brad the Solar sleeps through a meeting, but without missing his assignments.


Stamina + Linguistics = Leon the Sidereal writes a 1000-page long essay without a break two days before the deadline.


Stamina + Ride =


Stamina + Sail =


Stamina + Socialize =


>____>


I somehow like the stamina ones, though they don't really vary much.